From mw-raves-return-32510-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 07:42:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84220 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 07:42:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81563 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 07:36:28 -0000 From: "protman" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Reply-To: info@protman.com Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:30:16 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0146_01C268D9.79D920E0" Message-ID: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] [[[ protman update 093002 ]]] ghettoblaster + portoprottie.eml ------=_NextPart_000_0146_01C268D9.79D920E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0147_01C268D9.79D920E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0147_01C268D9.79D920E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [[[ protman update 093002 ]]] ghettoblaster + portoprottie Greetings, www.protman.com is now alive and kicking with and updated = ghettoblaster w/ gapless track loading + photos of the new = "portoprottie". With the assistance of the portoprottie, I am now = available for booking in the Chicagoland area and beyond. Also new is the "timeline" + There is a new protman compilation in the = works. For now DeepSea and Siktoe Navajoe are available for order. These = two are from my zzz sleepytime food-style style. gnarly cd dup+print = http://www.donerecords.com as always there are also the music machines, the guestbook, the di$co. Protman Is Joe Hahn. Joe Hahn makes music. His composing methods range = from near-realtime sequencing to parametrically confined, moderated, and = modulating cacophonies. He is also highly skilled in creating dynamic, = web-based music broadcast / delivery systems using php, mysql, and evil. = Previously a 5-year member of the infamous K-Rad, he is now on his own = artistic and technological road to nowhere, at the end of which is where = all of his psychonyms will collide into the band that creates the most = beautiful and universally accepted pop music mankind will ever hear. Thanks!! joehahn@protman.com http://www.protman.com remove@protman.com to be ------=_NextPart_001_0147_01C268D9.79D920E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Greetings,
    www.protman.com is now = alive and=20 kicking with and updated ghettoblaster w/ gapless track loading + photos = of the=20 new "portoprottie". With the assistance of the portoprottie, I am now = available=20 for booking in the Chicagoland area and beyond.

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Also new is the "timeline" + There is a = new protman=20 compilation in the works. For now DeepSea and Siktoe Navajoe are = available for=20 order. These two are from my zzz sleepytime food-style style. = gnarly cd=20 dup+print http://www.donerecords.com

as always there are also the music = machines, the=20 guestbook, the di$co.


Protman Is = Joe Hahn. Joe=20 Hahn makes music. His composing methods range from near-realtime = sequencing to=20 parametrically confined, moderated, and modulating cacophonies. He is = also=20 highly skilled in creating dynamic, web-based music broadcast / delivery = systems=20 using php, mysql, and evil. Previously a 5-year member of the infamous = K-Rad, he=20 is now on his own artistic and technological road to nowhere, at the end = of=20 which is where all of his psychonyms will collide into the band that = creates the=20 most beautiful and universally accepted pop music mankind will ever=20 hear.

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------=_NextPart_001_0147_01C268D9.79D920E0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0146_01C268D9.79D920E0-- From mw-raves-return-32511-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 08:10:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88361 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 08:10:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88351 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 08:10:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:12:41 -0500 From: atomly To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021001021241.A9383@atomly.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from protlist@protman.com on Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 12:30:16AM -0600 X-URL: http://www.atomly.com/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] [[[ protman update 093002 ]]] ghettoblaster + portoprottie.eml Phew, I'm sure glad we got a protman update- I was wondering what was up with protman. -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32512-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 08:11:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88738 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 08:11:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88728 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 08:11:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20021001081152.10260.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 01:11:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Naomi See To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, ia-raves@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-571302890-1033459912=:10192" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] awake? --0-571302890-1033459912=:10192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii me too...its 3am what are you doing right now? im waiting on laundry that i took too long to throw in...... bored? aim me @ eyedeaissoemo Naomi- ps- 17 more days til i move to des moines...woot!! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --0-571302890-1033459912=:10192-- From mw-raves-return-32513-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 08:38:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 661 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 08:38:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 650 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 08:38:15 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <767E6B0DADF2FB045B0F38F9B96ABF65@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 04:36:50 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] tues...swimwear competition @ arlington cafe & billiards...columbus... tues @ arlington cafe & billiards... SWIMWEAR COMPETITION free budweiser bikini & swimwear $400 in cash & prizes "best sports bar 2002" - columbus monthly magazine featuring: * cazzies retractable roof air conditioned patio * largest 21&over tues & sun night party * 70 tv's including 14 big screens * serving food 11am-2am 7 days a week * satellite tv w/ nfl ticket & espn college game days * dj's tues - sunday * incredible full menu & catering * private partys available hip sundays: hospitality industry personnel free entry w/ proof of employment from your restaurant or bar featuring 2 rooms of music in arlington: dj samuari playing hip hop, top 40, and house in cazzies: dj lemon lyman & dj steve soulo 50% off all appetizers 50% off pizzas * free pool sunday night party's with 20 or more guests call arlington to reserve a section and billiards tables, plus a complimentary tray of fruit & appetizers tuesday gatherings: join chris davis (wnci) & dj kurt (the love muscle) $400 in cash & prizes for the budweiser co-ed swim suit contest - swimsuits provided by budweiser dj's lemon lyman & dj steve soulo in cazzies playing deep house * 20cent wings * $2.00 pizzas * $2.50 bud & bud light punders phone: 614.538.0008 1975 w. henderson rd behind krogers just off nugent columbus, ohio Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32514-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 08:42:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1280 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 08:42:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1270 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 08:42:31 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 04:41:07 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] clearing up the rumors.... no, we did not start from fags...i have always been straight my whole life and i have eight ex girl friends that can vouch for me...in fact, scott forbush was married with children...unfortunately, the last girl i dated was decieved to turn against me by jinx. no, i was *never* a drug dealer, despite several set up attempts by jinx who only wanted to use the scene to take advantage of kids by selling them drugs...he only falsely accused me of drugs because he thought i was going to rat on him. no, we did not start from whores...once again jinx bullshit rumors...although i did help introduce porn star, the clothing lable to the ohio area...but it is just a clothing lable like fresh jive or jnco or kikwear. no, we were never gangsters, perhaps recreational users, but definitly not gangsters to the likes of gotti...the closest was michael allig who mudered his drug dealer, because he like jinx talked too much shit, and chopped him up into little pieces that was distributed through out NYC...the NYC project x magazine club kids later did a tour party about it...they even have a movie about it ...bottom line: snake dies...rat lives...ala YRB and the ratpack aka stuck on earth kids throwing boo 7 coming up bottom line, if you hear any shit about me, it's most likely from jinx...the people who believed in jinx's bullshit are idiots ...because everybody up in cleveland knew he was a bullshit artist, yet when he moved down to columbus some-how people believed in his bullshit...and let the records show the night of the 420 riots, which jinx was the central figure behind, there was a rave that same night with *no* incidents! there can be parties without drugs, but if nobody does the inviting / no shepherd, there's no party and everybody loses ass. jinx is dead...and anybody who passes on his bullshit rumors is a hater and haters are not welcome to any parties but no i did not kill jinx!...he killed himself like judas through all his lies...although i did have a few offers of people that did want to kill him for free...mostly ex military heads, people whose property was damaged during the 420 riots, other victims of jinx's robberies and scams: lazarus (he stole over $2000 while he worked there), water beds n stuff (stole a bunch of money and merchandise), peggy sue (girl he knocked up and owes child support to), a plethora of dj's/party people he has ripped off in cleveland, a bunch of ravers he robbed at the last family affair, tons of ravers whose lives he destroyed getting them involved in illegal drugs, dropping out, organized crime, tons of people in new york for his funding the 9/11 terrorist, etc. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32515-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 08:46:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3018 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 08:46:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3001 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 08:46:09 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <342EF53B9AD5CB148A72F1EFAE636A82@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 04:44:42 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] kids cleaning up the streets of jinx types... from drudgereport.com... A mob of nearly 20 kids beat a man brain dead Sunday night after he confronted them for throwing an egg at him and punched one teen in the mouth, police said. Brutal Beating Blood remains splattered Monday afternoon on the front porch of the duplex at 2021 N. 21st Lane, where Young was chased by a mob of youths and severely beaten with bats, shovels and boards, police said. Charlie Young Jr. tried to escape his attackers by seeking refuge in this duplex on N. 21st Lane but was dragged out of the lower level unit by his attackers and beaten until he was brain dead, police and the landlord said. Three suspects, 10, 13 and 14 years old, were in custody Monday, police said. The victim, Charlie Young Jr., 36, remained on life support. Police said the group chased Young onto the porch of a house at 2021 N. 21st Lane and used bats, shovels and boards to pummel him in an attack that left blood splattered floor to ceiling. At one point, Young forced his way into the lower unit in a desperate bid for safety, the landlord said, but the kids dragged him back outside, where the beating continued until police responded to a neighbor's 911 call. The severity of the attack demonstrated an escalating problem that plagued the area near Johnsons Park all summer, shaken neighbors say: out-of-control teenagers who roam the streets intimidating residents. Incidents of mob violence are "tragic, unexplainable events" and extremely rare, said Stan Stojkovic, associate dean of criminal justice at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Stojkovic said such incidents are kicked off by a precipitating event, likely in this case when, police say, Young struck a 14-year- old boy in the mouth. "The dynamic just unraveled and there was no control," Stojkovic said. "It's not something the criminal justice system really can predict." Several details of the attack remained unknown Monday night, such as why Young was in the area so far from his home in the 5600 block of N. 72nd St., if the kids knew him or where the confrontation began. It also is unknown what charges the boys in custody will face, although they could be charged as soon as today. Police continued to search Monday for as many as 18 other juveniles involved in the assault. The viciousness of the beating was evident Monday by the blood splattered on the floor, walls and even the 9-foot porch ceiling at 2021 N. 21st Lane. A pile of latex gloves lay at the base of the steps and the footprints of emergency workers and police who had to walk through puddles of blood to secure the scene Sunday night were visible. A window was jarred out of its sill and a doorknob was broken, apparently as the mob pulled Young out to continue the beating. Police say the attack occurred around 10:30 p.m. Sunday after Young chased a small group after the egg was thrown. He caught a 14-year- old boy and punched him in the mouth, knocking out a tooth, police said. The juveniles quickly assembled a larger group of 18 or 20 kids ranging in age from 10 to 18 and chased Young to the porch. Police say the mob then beat the man with shovels, boards, sticks and bats. Gerard Johnson, who said he owns the duplex where the beating occurred, came by the area around 2:30 a.m. Monday making a nightly check when he discovered broken crates and discarded bats strewn on the ground. Johnson said tenants told him Young eventually was thrown off the porch onto the street in front of the duplex. A man and woman and a teenage boy live in the lower unit of the duplex, the door Young tried to enter, Johnson said. The upper unit is inhabited by three adults and an infant, he said. He would not name the tenants, and no one answered the doors throughout the day. "In this neighborhood we have roaming teenage bands of kids - and we're talking about very young kids - out at that time causing trouble," Johnson said, adding that he does not live in the immediate area. He said police have been called multiple times, but by the time squad cars arrive the kids are gone. "They don't go to school, they don't do anything," he said. "They hang out." Neighbors said Monday that crime in the area is all too common and that they were afraid for their safety to talk on the record about what might have gone on Sunday night. One woman did say about 20 teenage boys had been gathering in the neighborhood since 8 p.m. Sunday and acting "hyped." "Something was in the air, for real," she said. She said the boys hovered on the corner of 21st Lane and Brown St., already carrying crates, poles and baseball bats. The boys were still out around midnight Sunday on the corner of 23rd St. and Brown St. while police secured the area and gathered evidence, said a 29-year-old man who also wouldn't give his name. The man was walking at that time with an 18-year-old male friend, whom the boys started taunting to fight, he said. "They don't know what they're getting themselves into." Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32516-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 09:12:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7338 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 09:12:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7319 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 09:12:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20021001091240.85449.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Naomi See To: shepherd t , pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <342EF53B9AD5CB148A72F1EFAE636A82@undergroundt.care2.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1598071481-1033463560=:84385" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] kids cleaning up the streets of jinx types... --0-1598071481-1033463560=:84385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii this makes me sick to my stomach....i cant even finish reading the article... shepherd t wrote:from drudgereport.com... A mob of nearly 20 kids beat a man brain dead Sunday night after he confronted them for throwing an egg at him and punched one teen in the mouth, police said. Brutal Beating Blood remains splattered Monday afternoon on the front porch of the duplex at 2021 N. 21st Lane, where Young was chased by a mob of youths and severely beaten with bats, shovels and boards, police said. Charlie Young Jr. tried to escape his attackers by seeking refuge in this duplex on N. 21st Lane but was dragged out of the lower level unit by his attackers and beaten until he was brain dead, police and the landlord said. Three suspects, 10, 13 and 14 years old, were in custody Monday, police said. The victim, Charlie Young Jr., 36, remained on life support. Police said the group chased Young onto the porch of a house at 2021 N. 21st Lane and used bats, shovels and boards to pummel him in an attack that left blood splattered floor to ceiling. At one point, Young forced his way into the lower unit in a desperate bid for safety, the landlord said, but the kids dragged him back outside, where the beating continued until police responded to a neighbor's 911 call. The severity of the attack demonstrated an escalating problem that plagued the area near Johnsons Park all summer, shaken neighbors say: out-of-control teenagers who roam the streets intimidating residents. Incidents of mob violence are "tragic, unexplainable events" and extremely rare, said Stan Stojkovic, associate dean of criminal justice at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Stojkovic said such incidents are kicked off by a precipitating event, likely in this case when, police say, Young struck a 14-year- old boy in the mouth. "The dynamic just unraveled and there was no control," Stojkovic said. "It's not something the criminal justice system really can predict." Several details of the attack remained unknown Monday night, such as why Young was in the area so far from his home in the 5600 block of N. 72nd St., if the kids knew him or where the confrontation began. It also is unknown what charges the boys in custody will face, although they could be charged as soon as today. Police continued to search Monday for as many as 18 other juveniles involved in the assault. The viciousness of the beating was evident Monday by the blood splattered on the floor, walls and even the 9-foot porch ceiling at 2021 N. 21st Lane. A pile of latex gloves lay at the base of the steps and the footprints of emergency workers and police who had to walk through puddles of blood to secure the scene Sunday night were visible. A window was jarred out of its sill and a doorknob was broken, apparently as the mob pulled Young out to continue the beating. Police say the attack occurred around 10:30 p.m. Sunday after Young chased a small group after the egg was thrown. He caught a 14-year- old boy and punched him in the mouth, knocking out a tooth, police said. The juveniles quickly assembled a larger group of 18 or 20 kids ranging in age from 10 to 18 and chased Young to the porch. Police say the mob then beat the man with shovels, boards, sticks and bats. Gerard Johnson, who said he owns the duplex where the beating occurred, came by the area around 2:30 a.m. Monday making a nightly check when he discovered broken crates and discarded bats strewn on the ground. Johnson said tenants told him Young eventually was thrown off the porch onto the street in front of the duplex. A man and woman and a teenage boy live in the lower unit of the duplex, the door Young tried to enter, Johnson said. The upper unit is inhabited by three adults and an infant, he said. He would not name the tenants, and no one answered the doors throughout the day. "In this neighborhood we have roaming teenage bands of kids - and we're talking about very young kids - out at that time causing trouble," Johnson said, adding that he does not live in the immediate area. He said police have been called multiple times, but by the time squad cars arrive the kids are gone. "They don't go to school, they don't do anything," he said. "They hang out." Neighbors said Monday that crime in the area is all too common and that they were afraid for their safety to talk on the record about what might have gone on Sunday night. One woman did say about 20 teenage boys had been gathering in the neighborhood since 8 p.m. Sunday and acting "hyped." "Something was in the air, for real," she said. She said the boys hovered on the corner of 21st Lane and Brown St., already carrying crates, poles and baseball bats. The boys were still out around midnight Sunday on the corner of 23rd St. and Brown St. while police secured the area and gathered evidence, said a 29-year-old man who also wouldn't give his name. The man was walking at that time with an 18-year-old male friend, whom the boys started taunting to fight, he said. "They don't know what they're getting themselves into." Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --0-1598071481-1033463560=:84385-- From mw-raves-return-32517-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 14:45:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98488 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 14:44:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98215 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 14:44:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4DF4@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] clearing up the rumors.... thread-index: AcJpJn6ESeWoF7pxT3SNyJIYg9/aggAMnL5w From: "Tony Sebion" To: "shepherd t" , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] clearing up the rumors.... Oh stevie, why do you betray our love? -t -----Original Message----- From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com]=20 Subject: [mw] clearing up the rumors.... no, we did not start from fags...i have always been straight my whole life and i have eight ex girl friends that can vouch for me...in fact, scott forbush was=20 married with children...unfortunately, the last girl i dated was decieved to turn against me by jinx. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32518-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 17:18:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32713 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 17:18:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32703 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 17:18:27 -0000 Message-Id: <005001c2696e$2dba7a70$6501a8c0@slmboy> From: "Matt Murphy" To: References: <767E6B0DADF2FB045B0F38F9B96ABF65@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:15:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] tues...swimwear competition @ arlington cafe & billiards...columbus... Wow stevie, have fun oggling at objectified women all night... fucking fratboy... Matt > tues @ arlington cafe & billiards... > > SWIMWEAR COMPETITION > free budweiser bikini & swimwear > $400 in cash & prizes > > "best sports bar 2002" - columbus monthly magazine --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32519-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 18:03:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54240 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 18:03:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54229 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 18:03:22 -0000 From: "Sarah Davis" To: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:58:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <767E6B0DADF2FB045B0F38F9B96ABF65@undergroundt.care2.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] x134-84-252-53.dialup.umn.edu #+LO+TR X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] tues...swimwear competition @ arlington cafe & billiards...columbus... "tues @ arlington cafe & billiards... SWIMWEAR COMPETITION free budweiser bikini & swimwear $400 in cash & prizes "best sports bar 2002" - columbus monthly magazine" wow!! budweiser and the best sports bar in columbus?!?! it's too good to be true! matt murphy....me thinks you and i need to....ROADTRIP!!!! we'll bring along sprynczynatyk for flavor! -sarah --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32520-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 18:14:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64237 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 18:14:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64227 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 18:14:03 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c26976$36676b80$657ba8c0@pop27> From: "Steven M. Pucci" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:13:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2694C.491D8EA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 900/1000/N Subject: [mw] Your Brain on Mondays - FREE EVENT - 10/07/02 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2694C.491D8EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coming this Monday The TreeHouse Collective is proud to present! Mark Almaria - Disco House - Bunch Lox - IHR - Jackin The Box - Chicago, = IL Mark has become one of the most beloved House DJs in the Mid-West. >From his mix CDs, Tracks, and insane live performances. Mark has performed all around the country! And this week you get to see him for FREE!!!! VIJay - Jump up Jungle - Strobe House - Chicago, IL Peter Rabbit - Bangin Azz Techno - TreeHouse - Back Alley - Chicago, IL FREE EVENT. 2$ Bud Lite Drafts 2$ Rail & Well Drinks 10/07/02 2345 W. Belmont (Corner of Belmont & western) Chicago, IL 312.409.2626 Steven M. Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective www.treehousecollective.net www.protocolbeats.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2694C.491D8EA0-- From mw-raves-return-32521-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 18:16:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67567 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 18:16:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67493 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 18:16:09 -0000 Message-Id: <3D99E646.E145E980@tc.umn.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 13:15:34 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <767E6B0DADF2FB045B0F38F9B96ABF65@undergroundt.care2.com> <005001c2696e$2dba7a70$6501a8c0@slmboy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] tues...swimwear competition @ arlington cafe & billiards...columbus... Ummm... Didn't you go to Paint to do just that, Matt? Oh yeah, that doesn't count, them nekkid girlies were "art." Looks like the pot calling the kettle black, lol, pfft (and other stevieisms). Tom Matt Murphy wrote: > Wow stevie, have fun oggling at objectified women all night... fucking > fratboy... > > Matt > > > tues @ arlington cafe & billiards... > > > > SWIMWEAR COMPETITION > > free budweiser bikini & swimwear > > $400 in cash & prizes > > > > "best sports bar 2002" - columbus monthly magazine > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32522-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 19:57:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67509 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 19:57:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67437 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 19:57:48 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.255.37.178] From: "DJ Nightshade" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:57:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2002 19:57:54.0042 (UTC) FILETIME=[D46EB5A0:01C26984] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Not in Our Name! http://www.nion.us there is a growing movement that explicitly states that George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the american people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do not support him and that he is misrepresenting us. please go to the site above and sign the petition if you feel the same way! Statement taken from "Not in Our Name" website: Let it not be said that people in the United States did nothing when their government declared a war without limit and instituted stark new measures of repression. The signers of this statement call on the people of the U.S. to resist the policies and overall political direction that have emerged since September 11, 2001, and which pose grave dangers to the people of the world. We believe that peoples and nations have the right to determine their own destiny, free from military coercion by great powers. We believe that all persons detained or prosecuted by the United States government should have the same rights of due process. We believe that questioning, criticism, and dissent must be valued and protected. We understand that such rights and values are always contested and must be fought for. We believe that people of conscience must take responsibility for what their own governments do -- we must first of all oppose the injustice that is done in our own name. Thus we call on all Americans to RESIST the war and repression that has been loosed on the world by the Bush administration. It is unjust, immoral, and illegitimate. We choose to make common cause with the people of the world. We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11, 2001. We too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and, a generation ago, Vietnam. We too joined the anguished questioning of millions of Americans who asked why such a thing could happen. But the mourning had barely begun, when the highest leaders of the land unleashed a spirit of revenge. They put out a simplistic script of "good vs. evil" that was taken up by a pliant and intimidated media. They told us that asking why these terrible events had happened verged on treason. There was to be no debate. There were by definition no valid political or moral questions. The only possible answer was to be war abroad and repression at home. In our name, the Bush administration, with near unanimity from Congress, not only attacked Afghanistan but arrogated to itself and its allies the right to rain down military force anywhere and anytime. The brutal repercussions have been felt from the Philippines to Palestine, where Israeli tanks and bulldozers have left a terrible trail of death and destruction. The government now openly prepares to wage all-out war on Iraq -- a country which has no connection to the horror of September 11. What kind of world will this become if the U.S. government has a blank check to drop commandos, assassins, and bombs wherever it wants? In our name, within the U.S., the government has created two classes of people: those to whom the basic rights of the U.S. legal system are at least promised, and those who now seem to have no rights at all. The government rounded up over 1,000 immigrants and detained them in secret and indefinitely. Hundreds have been deported and hundreds of others still languish today in prison. This smacks of the infamous concentration camps for Japanese-Americans in World War 2. For the first time in decades, immigration procedures single out certain nationalities for unequal treatment. In our name, the government has brought down a pall of repression over society. The President's spokesperson warns people to "watch what they say." Dissident artists, intellectuals, and professors find their views distorted, attacked, and suppressed. The so-called Patriot Act -- along with a host of similar measures on the state level -- gives police sweeping new powers of search and seizure, supervised if at all by secret proceedings before secret courts. In our name, the executive has steadily usurped the roles and functions of the other branches of government. Military tribunals with lax rules of evidence and no right to appeal to the regular courts are put in place by executive order. Groups are declared "terrorist" at the stroke of a presidential pen. We must take the highest officers of the land seriously when they talk of a war that will last a generation and when they speak of a new domestic order. We are confronting a new openly imperial policy towards the world and a domestic policy that manufactures and manipulates fear to curtail rights. There is a deadly trajectory to the events of the past months that must be seen for what it is and resisted. Too many times in history people have waited until it was too late to resist. President Bush has declared: "you're either with us or against us." Here is our answer: We refuse to allow you to speak for all the American people. We will not give up our right to question. We will not hand over our consciences in return for a hollow promise of safety. We say NOT IN OUR NAME. We refuse to be party to these wars and we repudiate any inference that they are being waged in our name or for our welfare. We extend a hand to those around the world suffering from these policies; we will show our solidarity in word and deed. We who sign this statement call on all Americans to join together to rise to this challenge. We applaud and support the questioning and protest now going on, even as we recognize the need for much, much more to actually stop this juggernaut. We draw inspiration from the Israeli reservists who, at great personal risk, declare "there IS a limit" and refuse to serve in the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. We also draw on the many examples of resistance and conscience from the past of the United States: from those who fought slavery with rebellions and the underground railroad, to those who defied the Vietnam war by refusing orders, resisting the draft, and standing in solidarity with resisters. Let us not allow the watching world today to despair of our silence and our failure to act. Instead, let the world hear our pledge: we will resist the machinery of war and repression and rally others to do everything possible to stop it. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32523-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 20:13:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79987 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79972 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Date: 1 Oct 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20021001201300.79971.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: chad@hyperreal.org To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mw] MW-Raves FAQ Welcome to the MW-Raves archives at hyperreal.org. 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Don't assume that the inclusion of a smiley will make the recipient happy with what you say or wipe out an otherwise insulting comment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================= END ==================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent by: mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org This FAQ ripped off heavily from the acid-jazz FAQ, courtesy of: Erik.Boralv@cmd.uu.se --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32524-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 22:13:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14646 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 22:13:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14620 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 22:13:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20021001221404.53994.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: J Hoeppner To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, ia-raves@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20021001081152.10260.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1614637505-1033510444=:52886" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Raver Girls - Kaboom!!!- --0-1614637505-1033510444=:52886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Any Raver Girls in Milwaukee or close to milwaukee want to chat? Just woundering, I need some raver friends, so if you want, just drop me a line :) Plur... JAmie *~-...-~*~-...-~* Two Worlds Collide, Do you know who you are? *~-...-~*~-...-~* JCS --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --0-1614637505-1033510444=:52886-- From mw-raves-return-32525-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 23:32:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56315 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 23:32:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56228 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 23:32:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: atomly cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20021001021241.A9383@atomly.com> Message-ID: <20021001163220.B46001-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] [[[ protman update 093002 ]]] ghettoblaster + portoprottie.eml i.like.protman. On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, atomly wrote: >Phew, I'm sure glad we got a protman update- I was wondering what was up >with protman. > >-- >:: atomly :: > >[ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32526-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 23:33:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58442 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 23:33:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58415 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 23:33:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:33:19 -0400 From: Vozen@aol.com To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <4020DF17.4EDF83EC.0001167A@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that >George W Bush >s a warmonger who is out of touch with the american people >and it is >our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do not >support)....Bla...bla ..Bla... Im not saying I agree or disagree with what nightshade writes. But, why do we have people that want to talk about Politics, and Religion on this list? lets pelt the next person with old happyhard core records. who's with me? -vozen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32527-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 23:44:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65964 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Oct 2002 23:44:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65954 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 23:44:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:42:48 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Mw-Ravers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. go here for more information: http://boards.gamers.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=ravetrash&id=zqqut -- *** -Becky =) becky@pubnix.org http://www.pubnix.org/~becky *** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32528-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 00:06:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76297 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 00:06:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76283 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 00:06:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c269c0$8a6c8400$f35b830a@box> From: "shawne" To: References: <20021001221404.53994.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:05:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Raver Girls - Kaboom!!!- is this porn solicitation? If so can I be cut in on the deal? the infamous one shawne ps something smells like breakfast ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Hoeppner" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: [mw] Raver Girls - Kaboom!!!- > > Any Raver Girls in Milwaukee or close to milwaukee want to chat? Just woundering, I need some raver friends, so if you want, just drop me a line :) > Plur... > JAmie > > > *~-...-~*~-...-~* Two Worlds Collide, Do you know who you are? *~-...-~*~-...-~* JCS > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32529-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 00:07:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76650 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 00:07:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76639 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 00:07:07 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021001190711.00e4acd0@mail.insightbb.com> X-Sender: fergcore@mail.insightbb.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:07:11 -0500 To: Vozen@aol.com,mw-raves@hyperreal.org From: Fergus In-Reply-To: <4020DF17.4EDF83EC.0001167A@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! >But, why do we have people that want to talk about Politics, and Religion on this list? Because this is something that affects EVERYONE and EVERYTHING. I feel posts like this one are *very* important, rave related or not...because it gives us all an opportunity to speak. I think we should all use our voice *while we still can*, and had that link not been posted here, it could have been quite awhile before I heard about it. >lets pelt the next person with old happyhard core records. Well...I guess that would be me. Want to rumble? fergus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32530-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 12:59:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24521 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 12:59:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24511 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 12:59:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c26a13$49a70280$657ba8c0@pop27> From: "Steven M. Pucci" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 07:57:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C269E9.5EFB0200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Detective Issues Alert Based on Onion Joke Web Site ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C269E9.5EFB0200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C269E9.5EFB0200" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C269E9.5EFB0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Detective Issues Alert Based on Onion Joke Web Site C O L D W A T E R, Mich. - When Detective Dan Nichols issued a news = release on telemarketing scams, he decided to mention a news report about a possible al Qaeda terrorist = connection.=20 The only problem was his source was the Onion, a satirical humor=20 Web site known for joke headlines such as "Microsoft Patents Ones, = Zeros,"=20 and "ACLU Defends Nazis' Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters."=20 The detective said state officials directed him to the story.=20 "I had talked to the attorney general's office and they referred me to = this news 'Onion' thing -=20 so I read that over and put some of that in," Nichols said.=20 "I read the story but I didn't even see where came from."=20 Representatives of the attorney general's office told the Battle Creek = Enquirer they never linked to the site.=20 The Onion item - "Report: Al-Qaeda Allegedly Engaging in Telemarketing"=20 described a purported CIA announcement linking Osama bin Laden's terror = network to annoying sales=20 calls hawking aluminum siding and long-distance phone service.=20 "Among the victims of al-Qaeda's telemarketing efforts is Coral Gables, = FL,=20 retiree Bernice Parks, who last Friday spent nearly 45 minutes trying to = say no to a pushy aluminum-siding salesman=20 who identified himself only as 'Mohammed,' only to give in and order = full siding for her home," the Onion wrote.=20 In his news release, Nicholas duly included the Onion item.=20 "In the course of this investigation, it was learned that this is going = on throughout the United States and some of these programs are believed to be operated by," he wrote.=20 Nicholas said his mistake has made him the target of some ribbing, but = that no real damage was done.=20 "If that's the worst thing I do in my career I'm doing pretty good."=20 The Onion tripped up the Beijing Evening News last June with its story,=20 "Congress Threatens to Leave D.C. Unless New Capitol Built."=20 The Chinese newspaper repeated the story, complete with the Onion's = graphic,=20 showing a proposal for a new retractable-roof Capitol.=20 Steven M. Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective www.treehousecollective.net www.protocolbeats.com ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C269E9.5EFB0200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Detective Issues = Alert Based=20 on Onion Joke Web Site

C O L D W A T E R, Mich. =97 When = Detective Dan=20 Nichols issued a news release on telemarketing scams,
 he = decided to=20 mention a news report about a possible al Qaeda terrorist connection. =
The=20 only problem was his source was the Onion, a satirical humor =
Web site=20 known for joke headlines such as "Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeros," =
and "ACLU=20 Defends Nazis' Right to Burn Down ACLU Headquarters."

The detective said state officials directed him to the story.
"I = had=20 talked to the attorney general's office and they referred me to this = news=20 'Onion' thing =97
so I read that over and put some of that in," = Nichols said.=20
"I read the story but I didn't even see where came from."=20
Representatives of the attorney general's office told the Battle = Creek=20 Enquirer they never linked to the site.
The Onion item = =97 "Report:=20 Al-Qaeda Allegedly Engaging in Telemarketing" 
described a = purported=20 CIA announcement linking Osama bin Laden's terror network to annoying = sales=20
calls hawking aluminum siding and long-distance phone service.=20

"Among the victims of al-Qaeda's telemarketing efforts is Coral = Gables, FL,=20
retiree Bernice Parks, who last Friday spent nearly 45 minutes = trying to say=20 no to a pushy aluminum-siding salesman
who identified himself only = as=20 'Mohammed,' only to give in and order full siding for her home," the=20 Onion wrote.=20

In his news release, Nicholas duly included the Onion item. =
"In=20 the course of this investigation, it was learned that this is going on=20 throughout the United States
and some of these programs are believed = to be=20 operated by," he wrote.=20

Nicholas said his mistake has made him the target of some ribbing, = but that=20 no real damage was done.
"If that's the worst thing I do in my = career I'm=20 doing pretty good."=20

The Onion tripped up the Beijing Evening News last June = with=20 its story,
"Congress Threatens to Leave D.C. Unless New Capitol = Built."=20
The Chinese newspaper repeated the story, complete with the Onion's = graphic,=20
showing a proposal for a new retractable-roof Capitol.

Steven M. Pucci / I.P.X.
TreeHouse=20 Collective

 
www.treehousecollective.net
www.protocolbeats.com ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C269E9.5EFB0200-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C269E9.5EFB0200-- From mw-raves-return-32531-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 15:02:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68269 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 15:02:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68259 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 15:02:39 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <34027A0250F746B4A8E1F72702757B6C@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:00:59 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: Vozen@aol.com,mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! obviously, because there are a few people on here with some intelligence instead of living up to the dim whitted druggie the mainstream tries so hard to stereotype us as. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Vozen@aol.com Sent: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:33:19 -0400 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =A0 =A0>Georg= e W Bush >s a warmonger who is out of touch with the american people >and it is >our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do not >support)....Bla...bla ..Bla... Im not saying I agree or disagree with what nightshade writes. But, why do we have people that want to talk about Politics, and Religion on this list? lets pelt the next person with old happyhard core records. who's with me? =A0-vozen =A0 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32532-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 15:06:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69881 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 15:06:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69870 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 15:06:14 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <7690A0DC9A45AD241AFAFABCDF2B93A3@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:04:05 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: becky@pubnix.org,mw-ravers X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. didn't i just finish saying how hard the mainstream tries to stereotype us as being dim whitted druggies, and what does becky do?! Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32533-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 15:13:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72787 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 15:13:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72775 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 15:13:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4DF6@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message thread-index: AcJqJT5AxjCxG3X6SYmyoIvCAAjJwwAAJfOg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 From: "Tony Sebion" To: "shepherd t" , , "mw-ravers" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. Hey becky, did you get your check from the CIA yet this month? Mine came yesterday and my raise is on it! Jinx and I are working on a way to get my pee-addicted folks switched over to more profitable substances. All I have to do now is get 50 more people addicted to the pot @ OSU and I'll get another 5% bonus! Oh, and JFK jr. says "hi", -t -----Original Message----- From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:04 AM To: becky@pubnix.org; mw-ravers Subject: Re: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. didn't i just finish saying how hard the mainstream tries to stereotype us as being dim whitted druggies, and what does becky do?! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32534-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 15:15:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73441 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 15:15:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73430 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 15:15:03 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <05089C9817EA42841A0E38DA51E21D33@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:13:25 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: undergroundt@care2.com,vozen@aol.com,mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! I also find it ironic that most of what he said pretty much summed up what i had been posting on here for the past four years. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =A0 =A0 >George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the >american people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud >and clear that we do not support Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32535-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 16:16:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96503 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 16:16:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96492 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 16:16:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:16:18 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v546) From: JayPee To: mw-raves Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <05089C9817EA42841A0E38DA51E21D33@undergroundt.care2.com> Message-Id: <48725527-D622-11D6-AC9D-0050E41E0C14@drunkenmasters.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.546) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! On Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 10:13 AM, shepherd t wrote: > I also find it ironic that most of what he said > pretty much summed up what i had been posting on > here for the past four years. > I still want to live with you so I can study your habits. I'll give the CIA your share of any profits from books, movies, etc. You owe them, you know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- "You must always be intoxicated. It is the key to all: the one question. In order not to feel the horrible burden of Time breaking your back and bending you toward the earth, you must become drunk, without truce. But on what? On wine, poetry, or virtue, as you wish. But you must become drunk." -Baudelaire ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- JayPee DrunkenMasters Audio, Visual, and Technical Annihilationists ICQ: 21427740 - AIM: JAYdrunkenPEE --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32536-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 19:51:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64062 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 19:51:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64043 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 19:51:43 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <5533CD1101FD0914CBE6F4A336457561@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:49:58 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] caesar and bush... from aol votes... Who do you blame for the sinking stocks? 30% E. President Bush (Economic policy) 52,099 23% A. Osama bin Laden (Terrorism) 40,332 20% F. Nobody, it's the natural cycle 35,076 14% B. Tyco's Dennis Kozlowski (Greed) 24,544 6% D. Alan Greenspan (Interest rates) 10,722 6% C. Saddam Hussein (Threat of war) 9,548 Total votes: 172,321 What best describes your feelings toward the stock market? 39% Frustration 66,819 19% Apathy 32,254 18% Anger 31,010 15% Fear 25,212 8% Despair 13,961 Total votes: 169,256 Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double- edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind… And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and gladly so.How do I know? For this is what I have done.And I am Caesar also from www.williamcooper.com... Fake Terror - The Road to Dictatorship Copyright 2001 by Michael Rivero Veritas News Service - Exclusive, September 24, 2001 -- It's the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times; creating the enemies you need. In 70 BC, an ambitious minor politician and extremely wealthy man, Marcus Licineus Crassus, wanted to rule Rome. Just to give you an idea of what sort of man Crassus really was, he is credited with invention of the fire brigade. But in Crassus' version, his fire- fighting slaves would race to the scene of a burning building whereupon Crassus would offer to buy it on the spot for a tiny fraction of it's worth. If the owner sold, Crassus' slaves would put out the fire. If the owner refused to sell, Crassus allowed the building to burn to the ground. By means of this device, Crassus eventually came to be the largest single private landholder in Rome, and used some of his wealth to help back Julius Caesar against Cicero. In 70 BC Rome was still a Republic, which placed very strict limits on what Rulers could do, and more importantly NOT do. But Crassus had no intentions of enduring such limits to his personal power, and contrived a plan. Crassus seized upon the slave revolt led by Sparticus in order to strike terror into the hearts of Rome, whose garrison Sparticus had already defeated in battle. But Sparticus had no intention of marching on Rome itself, a move he knew to be suicidal. Sparticus and his band wanted nothing to do with the Roman empire and had planned from the start merely to loot enough money from their former owners in the Italian countryside to hire a mercenary fleet in which to sail to freedom. Sailing away was the last thing Crassus wanted Sparticus to do. He needed a convenient enemy with which to terrorize Rome itself for his personal political gain. So Crassus bribed the mercenary fleet to sail without Sparticus, then positioned two Roman legions in such a way that Sparticus had no choice but to march on Rome. Terrified of the impending arrival of the much-feared army of gladiators, Rome declared Crassus Praetor. Crassus then crushed Sparticus' army and even though Pompeii took the credit, Crassus was elected Consul of Rome the following year. With this maneuver, the Romans surrendered their Republican form of government. Soon would follow the first Triumvirate, consisting of Crassus, Pompeii, and Julius Caesar, followed by the reign of the god- like Emperors of Rome. The Romans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Emperors. Julius Caesar's political opponent, Cicero, for all his literary accomplishments, played the same games in his campaign against Julius Caesar, claiming that Rome was falling victim to an internal "vast right wing" conspiracy in which any expressed desire for legislative limits on government was treated as suspicious behavior. Cicero, in order to demonstrate to the Romans just how unsafe Rome has become hired thugs to cause as much disturbance as possible, and campaigned on a promise to end the internal strife if elected and granted extraordinary powers. What Cicero only dreamed of, Adolph Hitler succeeded in doing. Elected Chancellor of Germany, Hitler, like Crassus, had no intention of living with the strict limits to his power imposed by German law. Unlike Cicero, Hitler's thugs were easy to recognize; they all wore the same brown shirts. But their actions were no different than those of their Roman predecessors. They staged beatings, set fires, caused as much trouble as they could, while Hitler made speeches promising that he could end the crime wave of subversives and terrorism if he was granted extraordinary powers. The Germans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Der Fuhrer. The state-sponsored schools will never tell you this, but governments routinely rely on hoaxes to sell their agendas to an otherwise reluctant public. The Romans accepted the Emperors and the Germans accepted Hitler not because they wanted to, but because the carefully crafted illusions of threat appeared to leave no other choice. Our government too uses hoaxes to create the illusion that We The People have no choice but the direction the government wishes us to go in. In 1898, Joseph Pulitzer's New York World and William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal were arguing for American intervention in Cuba. Hearst is reported to have dispatched a photographer to Cuba to photograph the coming war with Spain. When the photographer asked just what war that might be, Hearst is reported to have replied, "You take the photographs, and I will provide the war". Hearst was true to his word, as his newspaper published stories of great atrocities being committed against the Cuban people, most of which turned out to be complete fabrications. On the night of February 15, 1898, the USS Maine, lying in Havana harbor in a show of US resolve to protect her interests, exploded violently. Captain Sigsbee, the commander of the Maine, urged that no assumptions of enemy attack be made until there was a full investigation of the cause of the explosion. For this, Captain Sigsbee was excoriated in the press for "refusing to see the obvious". The Atlantic Monthly declared flat out that to suppose the explosion to be anything other than a deliberate act by Spain was "completely at defiance of the laws of probability". Under the slogan "Remember the Maine", Americans went to war with Spain, eventually winning the Phillipines (and annexing Hawaii along the way). In 1975, an investigation led by Admiral Hyman Rickover examined the data recovered from a 1911 examination of the wreck and concluded that there had been no evidence of an external explosion. The most likely cause of the sinking was a coal dust explosion in a coal bunker imprudently located next to the ship's magazines. Captain Sigsbee's caution had been well founded. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt needed a war. He needed the fever of a major war to mask the symptoms of a still deathly ill economy struggling back from the Great Depression (and mutating towards Socialism at the same time). Roosevelt wanted a war with Germany to stop Hitler, but despite several provocations in the Atlantic, the American people, still struggling with that troublesome economy, were opposed to any wars. Roosevelt violated neutrality with lend lease, and even ordered the sinking of several German ships in the Atlantic, but HItler refused to be provoked. Roosevelt needed an enemy, and if America would not willingly attack that enemy, then one would have to be maneuvered into attacking America, much as Marcus Licinius Crassus has maneuvered Sparticus into attacking Rome. The way open to war was created when Japan signed the tripartite agreement with Italy and Germany, with all parties pledging mutual defense to each other. Whereas Hitler would never declare war on the United States no matter the provocation, the means to force Japan to do so were readily at hand. The first step was to place oil and steel embargoes on Japan, using Japan's wars on the Asian mainland as a reason. This forced Japan to consider seizing the oil and mineral rich regions in Indonesia. With the European powers militarily exhausted by the war in Europe, the United States was the only power in the Pacific able to stop Japan from invading the Dutch East Indies, and by moving the Pacific fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, Roosevelt made a pre-emptive strike on that fleet the mandatory first step in any Japanese plan to extend it's empire into the "southern resource area". Roosevelt boxed in Japan just as completely as Crassus had boxed in Sparticus. Japan needed oil. They had to invade Indonesia to get it, and to do that they first had to remove the threat of the American fleet at Pearl Harbor. There never really was any other course open to them. To enrage the American people as much as possible, Roosevelt needed the first overt attack by Japan to be as bloody as possible, appearing as a sneak attack much as the Japanese had done to the Russians. From that moment up until the attack on Pearl Harbor itself, Roosevelt and his associates made sure that the commanders in Hawaii, General Short and Admiral Kimmel, were kept in the dark as much as possible about the location of the Japanese fleet and it's intentions, then later scapegoated for the attack. (Congress recently exonerated both Short and Kimmel, posthumously restoring them to their former ranks). But as the Army board had concluded at the time, and subsequent de- classified documents confirmed, Washington DC knew the attack was coming, knew exactly where the Japanese fleet was, and knew where it was headed. On November 29th, Secretary of State Hull showed United Press reporter Joe Leib a message with the time and place of the attack, and the New York Times in it's special 12/8/41 Pearl Harbor edition, on page 13, reported that the time and place of the attack had been known in advance! The much repeated claim that the Japanese fleet maintained radio silence on it's way to Hawaii was a lie. Among other intercepts still held in the Archives of the NSA is the UNCODED message sent by the Japanese tanker Shirya stating, "proceeding to a position 30.00 N, 154.20 E. Expect to arrive at that point on 3 December." (near HI) President Lyndon Johnson wanted a war in Vietnam. He wanted it to help his friends who owned defense companies to do a little business. He needed it to get the Pentagon and CIA to quit trying to invade Cuba. And most of all, he needed a provocation to convince the American people that there was really "no other choice". On August 5, 1964, newspapers across America reported "renewed attacks" against American destroyers operating in Vietnamese waters, specifically the Gulf of Tonkin. The official story was that North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an "unprovoked attack" on the USS Maddox while it was on "routine patrol". The truth is that USS Maddox was involved in aggressive intelligence gathering in coordination with actual attacks by South Vietnam and the Laotian Air Force against targets in North Vietnam. The truth is also that there was no attack by torpedo boats against the USS Maddox. Captain John J. Herrick, the task force commander in the Gulf, cabled Washington DC that the report was the result of an "over- eager" sonarman who had picked up the sounds of his own ship's screws and panicked. But even with this knowledge that the report was false, Lyndon Johnson went on national TV that night to announce the commencement of air strikes against North Vietnam, "retaliation" for an attack that had never occurred. President George Bush wanted a war in Iraq. Like Crassus, George Bush is motivated by money. Specifically oil money. But with the OPEC alliance failing to keep limits on oil production in the Mideast, the market was being glutted with oil pumped from underneath Iraq, which sat over roughly 1/3 of the oil reserves of the entire region. George wanted a war to stop that flow of oil, to keep prices (and profits) from falling any further than they already had. But like Roosevelt, he needed the "other side" to make the first move. Iraq had long been trying to acquire greater access to the Persian Gulf, and felt limited confined a narrow strip of land along Kuwait's northern border, which placed Iraqi interests in close proximity with hostile Iran. George Bush, who had been covertly arming Iraq during its war with Iran, sent word via April Glaspie that the United States would not intervene if Saddam Hussein grabbed a larger part of Kuwait. Saddam fell for the bait and invaded. Of course, Americans were not about to send their sons and daughters to risk their lives for petroleum products. So George Bush arranged a hoax, using public relations firm Hill & Knowlton, which has grown rich on taxpayer money by being most industrious and creative liars! Hill & Knowlton concocted a monumental fraud in which the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the United States, went on TV pretending to be a nurse, and related a horror story in which Iraqi troops looted the incubators from a Kuwaiti hospital, leaving the premature babies on the cold floor to die. The media, part of the swindle from the start, never bothered asking why the "nurse" didn't just pick the babies up and wrap them in blankets or something. Enraged by the incubator story, Americans supported operation Desert Storm, which never removed Saddam Hussein from power but which did take Kuwait's oil off of the market for almost 2 years and limited Iraq's oil exports to this very day. That our sons and daughters came home with serious and lingering medical illnesses was apparently not too great a price to pay for increased oil profits. Following the victory in Iraq, yet another war appeared to be in the offering in the mineral rich regions of Bosnia. Yet again, a hoax was used to create support for military action. The above photo of Fikret Alic, a Muslim, staring through a barbed wire fence, was used to "prove" that the Bosnians were running modern day "Concentration Camps". As the headline of "Belsen 92" indicates, all possible associations with the Nazi horrors were made to sell the necessity of sending yet more American troops into someone else's nation. But when German Journalists went to Trnopolje, the site of the supposed Bosnian Concentration Camp. to film a documentary, they discovered that the photo was a fake! The camp at Trnopolje was not a concentration camp but a refugee center. Nor was it surrounded by barbed wire. Careful examination of the original photo revealed that the photographer had shot the photo through a broken section of fence surrounding a tool shed. It was the photographer who was on the inside, shooting out at the refugees. Once again, Americans had been hoaxed into support of actions they might otherwise not have agreed with. While several American Presidents have willingly started wars for personal purposes, perhaps no President has ever carried it to the extreme that Bill Clinton has. Coincident with the expected public statement of Monica Lewinsky following her testimony, Bill Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack on Sudan and Afghanistan, claiming to have had irrefutable proof that bogeyman extraordinaire (and former Afghani ally) Osama Bin Ladin was creating terrorist chemical weapons there. Examination of the photos of the debris revealed none of the expected structures one would find in a laboratory that handled lethal weapons- grade materials. Assurances from the CIA that they had a positive soil test for biological weapons fell on their face when it was revealed that there had been no open soil anywhere near the pre- bombed facility. Sudan requested that international observers come test the remains of the factory for any signs of the nerve gas Clinton had insisted was there. None was found. The Sudanese plant was a harmless aspirin factory, and the owner has sued for damages. Later examination of the site hit in Afghanistan revealed it to be a mosque. Meanwhile, back in Kosovo, stories about genocide and atrocities were flooding the media (in time to distract from the Sudanese embarrassments), just as lurid and sensational and as it turns out often just as fictional as most of William Randolph Hearst's stories of atrocities against the Cubans. Again, the government and the media were hoaxing Americans. The above photo was shown on all the American networks, claiming to be one of Slobodan Milosovic's Migs, shot down while attacking civilians. Closer examination (click on the photo) shows it to be stenciled in English! Like Germany under Chancellor Hitler, there have been events in our nation which strike fear into the hearts of the citizens, such as the New York World Trade Tower bombing, the OK City Federal Building, and the Olympic Park bomb (nicely timed to divert the media from witnesses to the TWA 800 shoot down). The media has been very quick to blame such events on "radicals", "subversives", "vast right wing conspiracies", and other "enemies in our midst", no different than the lies used by Cicero and Hitler. But on closer examination, such "domestic terrorist" events do not appear to be what they are made out to be. The FBI had an informant inside the World Trade Tower bombers, Emad Salam, who offered to sabotage the bomb. The FBI told him "no". The so-called "hot bed" of white separatism at Elohim City, occasional home to Tim McVeigh in the weeks prior to the OK City bombing, was founded and is being run by an FBI informant! And nobody has ever really explained what this second Ryder truck was doing in a secret camp half way from Elohim City to Oklahoma City two weeks before the bombing. So, here we are today. Like the Romans of Crassus' and Cicero's time, or the Germans under a newly elected Hitler, we are being warned that a dangerous enemy threatens us, implacable, invisible, omnipresent, and invulnerable as long as our government is hamstrung by that silly old Bill of Rights. Already there have appeared articles debating whether or not "extraordinary measures" (i.e. torture) are not fully justified under certain circumstances such as those we are purported to face. As was the case in Rome and Germany, the government continues to plead with the public for an expansion of its power and authority, to "deal with the crisis". However, as Casio watch timers are paraded before the cameras, to the stentorian tones of the talking heads' constant dire warnings, it is legitimate to question just how real the crises is, and how much is the result of political machinations by our own leaders. Are the terrorists really a threat, or just hired actors with bombs and Casio watches, paid for by Cicero and given brown shirts to wear by Hitler? Is terrorism inside the United States really from outside, or is it a stage managed production, designed to cause Americans to believe they have no choice but to surrender the Republic and accept the totalitarian rule of a new emperor, or a new Fuhrer? Once lost, the Romans never got their Republic back. Once lost, the Germans never got their Republic back. In both cases, the nation had to totally collapse before freedom was restored to the people. Remember that when Crassus tells you that Sparticus approaches. Remember that when thugs in the streets act in a manner clearly designed to provoke the public fear. Remember that when the Reichstagg burns down. You can find more of Michael Rivero's research at www.whatreallyhappened.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bush Declares National Emergency (aka martial law) National Emergency Proclamation Militia and patriot leaders go underground! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First there was the War on Poverty And then there was the War on Drugs They attacked the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Now there is... America's New War by William Cooper When I was a boy I used to read Pogo in the Sunday Comics One day Pogo, Churchy, and all the other little male swamp creatures raided the cupboard, got out the pots and pans, placed them upon their heads, fashioned wooden swords, and leaving their women-folk behind, set out in a little flat bottomed boat to find the enemy. For several Sundays I marveled at the antics of the lady possums, skunks, turtles, and bears as they went about their business supporting the little war at home. Of course they endured hardships, all alone, and spent many an hour at the water's edge peering out, watching for the return of their little men. On one memorable Sunday morning I rushed to my Father's chair to wait for him to finish reading his paper. I wanted to check on the war and see how things were going. And finally my page fell to the floor. That morning the little ladies heard a great commotion out in the swamp and all ran down to the shore. Their biggest fear was that the enemy would attack while the warriors were at swamp far from home. Eventually, from around the corner of an island, from behind the great swamp tree, a boat appeared so full of kitchen armor clad barbarians that a great gasp went up from the little crowd on the beach. They began to look around for weapons with which to protect themselves... when all of a sudden! As the boat approached the shore Little Pogo possum, 3 quart pot perched upon his head, wooden sword held magnificently aloft, stood up in the bow of the boat and made a great pronouncement. It was the best speech I have ever read. I remember it to this day. "We have found the enemy, and they are us!" Where is Pogo when we need him? Will America's Fools swallow America's New War? Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32537-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 20:35:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2480 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 20:35:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2458 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 20:35:22 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:33:47 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: hasnoplur@hotmail.com,methylamine@yahoo.com,pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Re: {pbcleBS} caesar and bush... much of our steel today is imported from the UK, since Bush is so buddy buddy with Tony Blair, they have an agreement. many of america's steel factory like LTV have been shut down. didn't you read my post about how on the west coast, the unions have been fighting all this time since they have stopped work at the ports? from AOL News... PORT SHUTDOWN MAY SINK ECONOMY... WASHINGTON (Oct. 1) - A prolonged shutdown of West Coast ports could lead to empty store shelves, quiet factories and a global economic crisis, analysts say. ``The collateral damage is huge,'' said Stephen Cohen, a regional planning professor at the University of California at Berkeley. ``We've never had anything like this. This affects the entire economy.'' Millions of dollars in cargo sat idle for a second day at the 29 major Pacific ports. West Coast shipping lines said they will keep the ports closed until the longshoremen agree to extend their expired contract. But the 10,500-member union said it will not budge until the lockout is ended. A stalemate could be disastrous for the U.S. economy, which already is teetering between recovery and recession. The cost has been pegged at $1 billion a day. ``It's just massive,'' said John Martin, president of Martin Associates, a Lancaster, Pa., economic consulting firm. The problems could snowball quickly, according to his study conducted for the Pacific Maritime Association, which represents shipping lines and sea terminal operators. A 10-day shutdown could cost the country $19.4 billion. American manufacturers increasingly rely on imported components and materials, and the dependence of giant retailers, such as Wal-Mart and Target, on imported merchandise has soared. The containers handled by the West Coast ports include toys from China, computers from Taiwan, lamb from Australia and fruit from Chile. U.S. foreign trade has quadrupled in the last 20 years and now accounts for 20 percent of the nation's economic activity. Trade through West Coast Customs districts reached $567 billion in 2000, accounting for almost a third of the nation's international trade, according to Cohen's study. Factories and retailers are more vulnerable than ever to supply disruptions. Cargo no longer sits in warehouses as it once did. Containers are moved from the ships directly to distribution centers tied to the ports, where they are broken down, repacked and sent to final destinations within hours instead of days or weeks. ``This has permitted radical reductions in inventories and much improved matching of supply to final demand,'' the study said. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has said the logistics changes contributed greatly to the economic boom of the late 1990s. The downside is that manufacturers and retailers no longer stock large quantities of parts and merchandise and rely on frequent shipments to sustain production flows and inventory. ``After a while, they start to run out of stuff,'' Cohen said. ``That hurts earnings and may lead to layoffs.'' Manufacturers and retailers have been preparing for possible slowdowns or a strike by ordering extra inventory. That should sustain the national economy for a few days or weeks, said Mark Zandi, chief economist with Economy.com. ``If it extends for a month or two, it will affect sales, production and economic activity at a vulnerable time for the economy,'' he said. Analysts also worry that a prolonged lockout could trigger a crisis in international financial markets, especially in Asia, which is heavily dependent on massive volumes of exports to the United States, and Mexico, which relies on imported components for re-export. ``A few days or couple of weeks - most retailers and businesses are prepared for that,'' Zandi said. ``But a month or two - that becomes a significant global economic problem.' ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Nick S" Sent: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 16:14:39 -0400 To: methylamine@yahoo.com, pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} caesar and bush... hitler did the same thing in the 30s to pull germany out of its post war depression(from world war one)...the great thing about war is it requires lots of steel...steel employs lots of ppl...hence if you create an artificial demand for steel(militarization) you can pull an economy out of a slump...look what that did for the ussr...i think something like 40% of their communist workforce was some way or another employed by the steel industry(production, machining, forging, etc) just some food for thought nick >From: Vaughn Schtupp >To: ot >Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} caesar and bush... >Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:07:25 -0700 (PDT) > >Come on stevie, *everyone* knows war is great for a slumping economy! >Just look at how WWII pulled us out of the Great Depression. > >--- shepherd t wrote: > > from aol votes... > > > > Who do you blame for the sinking stocks? > > > > 30% E. President Bush (Economic policy) 52,099 > > 23% A. Osama bin Laden (Terrorism) 40,332 > > 20% F. Nobody, it's the natural cycle 35,076 > > 14% B. Tyco's Dennis Kozlowski (Greed) 24,544 > > 6% D. Alan Greenspan (Interest rates) 10,722 > > 6% C. Saddam Hussein (Threat of war) 9,548 > > Total votes: 172,321 > > > > What best describes your feelings toward the stock market? > > > > 39% Frustration 66,819 > > 19% Apathy 32,254 > > 18% Anger 31,010 > > 15% Fear 25,212 > > 8% Despair 13,961 > > Total votes: 169,256 > > > > Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the > > citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a > > double- > > edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the > > mind… > > And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood > > boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no > > need > > in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, > > infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of > > > > their rights unto the leader, and gladly so.How do I know? For this > > > > is what I have done.And I am Caesar > > > > also from www.williamcooper.com... > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > >----- >doses. bright lights put me in a trance, but it aint house music that makes me wanna dance _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ----- doses. ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32538-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 20:41:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5338 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 20:41:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5328 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 20:41:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3D9B5A16.30C9C12@tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 15:41:58 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk Organization: Minnesota Medical Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] mmf94-165-54.mmf.umn.edu #+LO+TR X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Led Zepplin Ok, I know that it doesn't contain nekkid underage girlies so it won't interest most of you, but headbanging Viking kittens are just too damn good. http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32539-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 21:11:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25182 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 21:11:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25170 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 21:11:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:09:42 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Tony Sebion cc: shepherd t , mw-ravers In-Reply-To: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4DF6@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. you must not have had as good of a review as me this year, because my raise was 15% and was retroactive from the end of August!!! Better get on that pee-pill production! p.s. like I actually read what steviet posts anymore. tony's p.p.s. =) it's dim-witted, not whitted. for someone with a college degree from such a prestigious university, you'd think stevie would know how to spell. must be all the smot from jinx that he's poked in the past few years. On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Tony Sebion wrote: > Hey becky, did you get your check from the CIA yet this month? Mine > came yesterday and my raise is on it! Jinx and I are working on a way > to get my pee-addicted folks switched over to more profitable > substances. All I have to do now is get 50 more people addicted to the > pot @ OSU and I'll get another 5% bonus! > > Oh, and JFK jr. says "hi", > -t > > -----Original Message----- > From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:04 AM > To: becky@pubnix.org; mw-ravers > Subject: Re: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. > > > didn't i just finish saying how hard the mainstream > tries to stereotype us as being dim whitted druggies, > and what does becky do?! > -- *** -Becky =) becky@pubnix.org http://www.pubnix.org/~becky *** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32540-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 02 23:58:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26202 invoked by uid 1151); 2 Oct 2002 23:58:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26190 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 23:58:17 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 18:58:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4DF9@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. Thread-Index: AcJqWC8nym0TnZp4Th6hf4VLfbA1IAAF0ciQ From: "Tony Sebion" To: Cc: "shepherd t" , "mw-ravers" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. Its people like you that win the spelling bee! -t -----Original Message----- From: becky@pubnix.org Cc: shepherd t; mw-ravers Subject: RE: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. it's dim-witted, not whitted. for someone with a college degree from such a prestigious university, you'd think stevie would know how to spell. must be all the smot from jinx that he's poked in the past few years. On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Tony Sebion wrote: > Hey becky, did you get your check from the CIA yet this month? Mine=20 > came yesterday and my raise is on it! Jinx and I are working on a way > to get my pee-addicted folks switched over to more profitable=20 > substances. All I have to do now is get 50 more people addicted to=20 > the pot @ OSU and I'll get another 5% bonus! >=20 > Oh, and JFK jr. says "hi", > -t >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:04 AM > To: becky@pubnix.org; mw-ravers > Subject: Re: [mw] steviet... some interesting developments and photos. >=20 >=20 > didn't i just finish saying how hard the mainstream > tries to stereotype us as being dim whitted druggies, > and what does becky do?! >=20 --=20 *** -Becky =3D) becky@pubnix.org http://www.pubnix.org/~becky *** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32541-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 03:16:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95584 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 03:16:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95562 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 03:16:09 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:14:20 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] mother nature warning bush that there are things more important than war... mother nature warning bush that there are things more important than war... from AOL news... NEW IBERIA, La. (Oct. 2) - Nearly a half-million people in Louisiana and Texas were urged to clear out on Wednesday - some of them for the second time in a week - as a fearsome Hurricane Lili barreled toward the Gulf Coast with 140 mph winds. ``We have a real disaster in the making,'' said Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami. ``This is going to be the worst hurricane to hit the Louisiana coast since reconnaissance data has been available.'' Resort towns boarded up, along with all 12 of Mississippi's Gulf Coast casinos, NASA's Mission Control in Houston, the nation's biggest oil import terminal, and the Tabasco bottling plant near the Louisiana coast. ``I got a funny feeling,'' ranch hand Wilson Miller said as he stocked up on cigarettes and sandwiches at a gas station near Lafayette. ``When we get back it will be under water and there won't be anything left.'' Lili was expected to come ashore in Louisiana on Thursday afternoon as a major, destructive hurricane, Category 4 on the five-point scale. Forecasters warned that some areas could be inundated with 6 to 10 inches of rain and a life-threatening storm surge of up to 20 feet. About 143,000 people were urged to leave the Louisiana coast, while in Texas officials advised the 330,000 residents in two counties surrounding Beaumont and Port Arthur to head inland because of the threat of a 9-foot storm surge. ``Destination? I have no idea. But it's going to be north,'' said Glen Guidry, who stopped at a gas station on Interstate 10 west of Lafayette with his wife and five children. Gail Harrington, her son, daughter, six other relatives and a dog crammed into a compact car to drive as far from the coast as they could. ``We tanked it up. Wherever that gets us, we'll go,'' Harrington said at a grocery store in Delcambre, La., a small town a few miles from the water's edge. Hurricane-force winds - which extended outward 45 miles from the center of Lili - were expected to reach up to 150 miles inland. At 5 p.m. EDT, Lili was 285 miles south of New Orleans. In Texas, Gov. Rick Perry signed a disaster declaration and corrections officials moved more than 3,000 inmates to inland lockups. The storm forced the shutdown of Mission Control in Houston, delaying for nearly a week Wednesday's shuttle launch 900 miles away at Cape Canaveral, Fla. It marked the first time in 41 years of manned spaceflight that bad weather in Houston delayed a Florida launch. At Louisiana's Avery Island, home of Tabasco hot pepper sauce, the McIlhenny Co. shut down its lone bottling plant. ``We'll be closed as long as it takes to get our power back and let our people clean out their homes,'' said executive vice president Tony Simmons. But he said hot sauce lovers need not worry: ``We're not anticipating anyone running out of Tabasco.'' Officials in Iberia Parish, La., ordered an evacuation Wednesday, but some residents complained they had no transportation to leave. ``It's hard to open a shelter when you're going to have 10 feet of water in it,'' parish emergency director Jim Anderson said. He said the parish might open what he called ``last resort'' shelters Thursday for those unable to leave. Grand Isle, the storm-vulnerable island south of New Orleans, ordered its 1,500 residents to get out even as workers completed repairs on a 2,500 section of levee washed out last week by Tropical Storm Isidore. Nearby, Port Fourchon was also shutting down and evacuating. An estimated 16 percent of the nation's crude oil and 17 percent of its natural gas come from rigs and platforms that require access to the port. LOOP, the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port about 20 miles off the coast, also closed. It is the biggest U.S. crude oil import terminal, handling about 1 million barrels of crude a day, or 11 percent of U.S. imports. A hurricane warning stretched from just east of High Island, Texas, to the mouth of the Mississippi River in Louisiana. Earlier, Lili barreled through the Caribbean, killing seven people and driving tens of thousands of Cubans from their homes. Lili is headed for Louisiana less than a week after Isidore dumped more than 20 inches of rain and caused $100 million in flood damage. While Isidore did its damage with rain, Lili's winds and storm surge were the major threats. Mayfield, head of the hurricane center, compared the storm to Hurricane Audrey, which struck Texas and Louisiana in 1957 and had 12- to 13-foot storm surges that pushed inland as far as 25 miles. The surges were responsible for the vast majority of the 390 deaths. Chuck Frazier, emergency management director in Texas' Beaumont-area Orange County, said many residents still have not forgotten. ``This storm brought back a lot of memories for Audrey,'' he said. ``They take it pretty seriously.'' 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Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32542-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 03:26:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98284 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 03:26:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98274 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 03:26:35 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c26a8c$7c0d3040$47460d44@om.cox.net> From: "Alias311" To: , "MW RAVES" References: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:25:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Good Luck Tantra Totem ----- Original Message ----- From: "c amdor" To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; <56cavanaugh@cua.edu>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: Good Luck Tantra Totem > This is pretty silly but I need all the luck I can find. > > You may not believe in this but the advice is great! > > Read all the way down, you might learn something!!! > > THE FOLLOWING IS A CHINESE GOOD LUCK TANTRA TOTEM. > > ONE. > Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully. > > TWO. > Marry a man/woman you love to talk to. As you get older, their > conversational skills will be as important as any other. > > THREE. > Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you > want. > > FOUR. > When you say, "I love you", mean it. > > FIVE. > When you say, "I'm sorry", look the person in the eye. > > SIX. > Be engaged at least six months before you get married. > > SEVEN. > Believe in love at first sight. > > EIGHT. > Never laugh at anyone's dreams. People who don't have dreams > don't have much. > > NINE. > Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the > only way to live life completely. > > TEN. > In disagreements, fight fairly. Please No name calling. > > ELEVEN. > Don't judge people by their relatives. > > TWELVE. > Talk slowly but think quickly. > > THIRTEEN. > When someone asks you a question you don't want to answer, > smile and ask, "Why do you want to know?" > > FOURTEEN. > Remember that great love and great achievements involve great > risk. > > FIFTEEN. > Say "bless you" when you hear someone sneeze. > > SIXTEEN. > When you lose, don't lose the lesson. > > SEVENTEEN. > Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; > Responsibility for all your actions. > > EIGHTEEN. > Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship. > > NINETEEN. > When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to > correct it. > > TWENTY. > Smile when picking up the phone. The caller will hear it in your > voice.. > > TWENTY ONE. > Spend some time alone. > > Now, here's the FUN part! > > This tantra totem has been sent to you for good luck. It has been sent > around the world ten times so far. You will receive good luck within four > days of relaying this tantra totem. Send copies to people you think need > good don't send money as fate has no price. > Do not keep this message. The tantra totem must leave your hands in 96 > hours. You will get a very pleasant surprise. > > This is true, even if you are not superstitious. > > Send this to at least 5 people and your life will improve. > 0-4 people: Your life will improve slightly. > 5-9 people: Your life will improve to your liking. > 9-14 people: You will have at least 5 surprises in the next 3 weeks. > 15 and above: Your life will improve drastically and everything you ever > dreamed of will begin to take shape. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32543-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 07:33:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60752 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 07:33:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60677 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 07:33:42 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c26aaf$320d7900$e5504542@Tolga> From: "Tolga Sezer" To: "funkybabyevents@aol.com" , , , , , , , , , , , , , , "NEMOhouseHEAD@aol.c" , "TraxxProduction@aol.co" , , , , , , , , , , , , , , "ToekenTheRaver@aol.co" , , "dcraves" , "mtn-raves" , "mw-raves" , "nw-raves" , "nyc-raves" , "pb-cle-raves" , "sfraves" Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:33:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C26A85.4749D1D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Updated Just Two Roster & Tour Info ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C26A85.4749D1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are proud to announce that Ian Van Dahl, Dee Dee, Lasgo, DJ 3D, and UFO! have joined are family of talent! =20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ JUST TWO MANAGEMENT - www.JustTwo.com Updated Talent Roster & Tour info ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jesse Saunders last minute Cancellations: October 19, and October 31st(Halloween) are now re-avaliable, No resonable offer will be refused! ---- Track Acts/Live Pa ---- Ian Van Dahl - Belgium Lasgo - Belgium Dee Dee - Belgium ----=20 House / Trance ---- Brooklyn Bounce(DJTeam) Jesse Saunders - LA Armann The BrainChild - San Fran David Hollands - NYC DJ Vicious Vic - NYC Andy Hughes - FL Victor Dinaire - NYC Morgan - San Fran Ariel Cybana - San Fran DJ Kos - NC DJ Soniq Stylz - Ohio Punch - NYC Cosmicboy - FL ---- Drum n'Bass/Jungle/2-Step ---- UFO! - NYC E-Sassin - LA DJ Abstract - London/San Fran DJ 3D - Chicago Echo - San Fran Noel - San Fran Roxanne - LA Josh Holiday - NYC ---- Hardcore/Happycore ---- Omar Santana - LA Delta 9 - Chicago DJ Tron - Chicago Delirium - NYC DJ Spree - MN DJ Bezerker - DC DJ WarChild - Boston DJ CloudSkipper - KY DJ Flippy - TX ---- Breaks ---- DJ Polywog - San Fran Omar Santana - NYC DJ Soniq Stylz - Ohio ---- MC's ---- MC ADB MC Jumper=20 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 Tours ---- Heat It Up Tour:// Jesse Saunders,Charles Feelgood, and Soniq Stylz =20 ONLY 7 DATES LEFT! =20 ........... 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DJ Abstract North American tour:// DJ Abstract will be taking a break from recording in the UK to tour North America starting in December. =20 --- For more info about any of these tours/Artists visit are home on the web @ www.JustTwo.com Sincerely, Tolga Sezer ___________ AIM: Slippy Industries Phone: (512) 799-9277 ___________ Slippy Industries Just Two Artist Management- www.justtwo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C26A85.4749D1D0-- From mw-raves-return-32544-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 08:50:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76482 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 08:50:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76469 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 08:50:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 01:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, , Message-ID: <20021003013120.V73761-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] mke.sat.oct5th.11am-ghandi.statue.dedication sorry,yall...my.keyboard's.quite.clicky.right.now... but.i.thought.some.milwaukee.area.people.might.be.interested.in.going. to.this... http://www.wcaio.org/custom.html love, chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32545-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 08:57:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78312 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 08:57:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78300 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 08:57:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 01:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, , Message-ID: <20021003015537.D73761-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] err...that's.gandhi... spelling.is.the.best!! :) love, chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32546-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 10:12:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89134 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 10:12:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89118 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 10:12:05 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <49CFF10D54772AF49BD9B04CBFEBAFFE@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 06:10:38 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: chad@hyperreal.org,mw-raves@hyperreal.org,=?iso-8859-1?B?oA==?=, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] mke.sat.oct5th.11am-ghandi.statue.dedication ironic, how when americans first met ghandi, they called him a nigger and tossed him off the train. and lets not forget the asians that crossed the land bridge to become eskimos, migrated south to be native american indians, only to be slaughtered by whites when they started moving in from the east and got pushed further and further west and lost so many lives. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: spad chonholz Sent: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 01:50:28 -0700 (PDT) To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, =A0, Subject: [mw] mke.sat.oct5th.11am-ghandi.statue.dedication sorry,yall...my.keyboard's.quite.clicky.right.now... but.i.thought.some.milwaukee.area.people.might.be.interested.in.going. to.this... http://www.wcaio.org/custom.html love, chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32547-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 11:18:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99643 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 11:18:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99630 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 11:18:58 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:17:16 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] fwd: RIP Laura Gavoor... Subj: Laura Gavoor : RIP : Date: 10/2/02 3:17:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: asya@mir-media.com To: asya@mir-media.com Sent from the Internet (Details) * She danced with grace, she spoke out of knowledge * Dear Friends of Laura, At approximately 10 p.m. this Tuesday, Laura passed away after being removed from life support at William Beaumont Hospital. She died from complications from a brain aneurysm and stroke suffered Monday. This sudden loss is overwhelming and she will be missed by her family and friends around the globe. Please say a prayer for her and the Gavoor family. Below are the arrangements for Laura -- I can not even start to contact all of her friends and collegues with such short notice and hope that everyone can forward this to people (especially international friends) that I might not have email or contact info for. There will be a visitation Thursday, October 3, from 1-4 and 6-9p at: Fred Wood Funeral Home 36100 5 Mile Livonia, MI 734-464-8060 The funeral service will be held Friday, October 4, at: St. Sarkis Armenian Apostolic 19300 Ford Rd. Dearborn, MI 313-336-6200 The time is still undetermined but will likely be around 10-11am. You can arrive early if needed. Please take time to pay your respects to her family and relatives -- many of them do not understand the impact Laura had on the global dance music community through her personal and professional efforts and how she pioneered areas considered stardard today. It is important that we give back to her by showing our support and letting her family know what she did for each and every one of us as a friend and fan. Her family has also arranged obituary listings in the Detroit News and Free Press on Wednesday, Oct. 2 -- feel free to refer people to those as I think they will have the same, if not more, information. Regarding donations and gifts to the family, please send all items to: The Gavoor Family 38294 Ladywood Ct. Livonia, MI 48154 ------------- Thank you Keleigh Casper, our mutual friend, for this write up. On a personal note, I am still in shock and disbelief. Laura was my mentor. Flat out I would not be where I am today, not even close, if it weren't for her love, wisdom, care, and generosity. She had years of experience, as she did strife, and struggled to be the best at what she did although being a woman in this business is never easy. She was one of the most AMAZING women I ever knew. From the 1st time we met outside of the Transmat office on Gratiot St. in '96, to being her assistant for 2 years at Yin Sight, to hanging out @ the various Winter Music Conferences, to the bonding sessions through the years - like the one we had just a little over a month ago...I will never forget her...her passion, lust for life and mission for world change will never be taken for granted. We tend to forget that the music business is not as serious as one's life and love for it. Makes one look and realize how precious life really is. In this very intense and real world PLEASE lets take care of each other. I pray that we can help keep her legacy alive through our efforts and love for music, dance, people and each other. Rest in Peace Laura aka Lorig aka Gavo - we will love you, miss you and think of you in the highest regards, always and forever. You will always be a magical, beautiful, enlightened, intelligent and powerful force. Laura, we know that you are dancing in Heaven, content as the Angel you have always been. Love and light, a prayer has gone out. Amen. -- ******************************************** contact: Jennifer Walker **(please note as of Oct 18, my new office number will be 770-439- 3567) office: 770-638-8778** fax: 770-931-4856 email: pleazurega@aol.com Pleazure Creative Group www.pleazure.net Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32548-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 16:20:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4767 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 16:20:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4756 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 16:20:56 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:24:32 -0500 From: Ryan Thundercloud To: shepherd t , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49CFF10D54772AF49BD9B04CBFEBAFFE@undergroundt.care2.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] mke.sat.oct5th.11am-ghandi.statue.dedication Oh really, foo? Try taking anthro again..... Ryan Thundercloud On 10/3/02 5:10 AM, "shepherd t" wrote: > and lets not forget the asians that crossed > the land bridge to become eskimos, migrated > south to be native american indians, --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32549-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 17:00:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36120 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 17:00:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36110 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 17:00:41 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:56:01 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! that is silly. you think that just because we are on mw raves that we are immune to the ma= niacs in office right now? just because we are surrounded by kisses and hugs (yack) doesnt mean there = isnt a world outside of this world that affects us all. i say keep the intelligent conversation coming. people's apathy towards things such as this, is one reason it has gotten so= bad and to this point. so more love to nightshade and down with happy hardcore (seriously). d >>> 10/01/02 07:33PM >>> Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that >George W Bush >s a warmonger who is out of touch with the american people >and it is >our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do not >support)....Bl= a...bla ..Bla... Im not saying I agree or disagree with what nightshade writes.=20 But, why do we have people that want to talk about Politics, and Religion o= n this list? lets pelt the next person with old happyhard core records. who= 's with me? -vozen =20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32550-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 17:01:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36500 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 17:01:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36487 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 17:01:06 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:56:59 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: ,, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! *claps hands to the shepherd* >>> "shepherd t" 10/02/02 11:13AM >>> I also find it ironic that most of what he said pretty much summed up what i had been posting on here for the past four years. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =20 >George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the >american people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud >and clear that we do not support Care2 make the world greener! 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Thread-Index: AcJq/nFm7M9qMnVtScu8y0jsidFfOwABVnSQ From: "Tony Sebion" To: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! Why would someone publicly agree with stevie t - who would want to be on the CIA watch list that bad? -t -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:dooleyc@firstcharter.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! *claps hands to the shepherd* >>> "shepherd t" 10/02/02 11:13AM >>> I also find it ironic that most of what he said pretty much summed up what i had been posting on here for the past four years. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =20 >George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the american=20 >people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do >not support --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32554-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 22:30:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46039 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 22:30:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46014 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 22:30:02 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <863D7A86A0E275F47A351152F9A75E6D@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:31:53 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... anybody read about the shootings in montgomery county? sounds like a professional job. no witnesses...in an unmarked white van?! and the victims were civilians...like with the anthrax attacks. more planned terrorism to keep mainstream america in fear and giving more power to our commander and chief to eliminate these 'evil do'ers'? and oppress people he deems unacceptable? from drudgereport.com... 5 fatally shot in Montgomery Co. Victims killed within miles of each other; 'Strong possibity that they are all connected'; Schools locked down as white van sought ----------------------------------------------------------------- SunSpot staff and wire reports Originally published October 3, 2002, 5:45 PM EDT Five people were shot and killed within miles of each other in less than 16 hours in Montgomery County, authorities said, prompting officials to lock down schools while police stopped and searched every white van or truck in the hunt for suspects. "We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles A. Moose. "If that leads us in one direction as far as a profile, I’ll have to leave that to my investigators." Noting the location and timing of the shootings late Wednesday and early today, which occurred one by one in public places in several Washington suburbs, department spokeswoman Joyce Utter said that "there's a strong possibility that they are all connected." Police said they did not have any eyewitnesses to the shootings, but one person reported seeing a white van with two occupants speed from the scene of one shooting. The van was not reported at any other shooting scene, said Capt. Nancy Demme, a Montgomery County police spokeswoman. Gov. Parris Glendening spoke with Montgomery County Executive Douglas M. Duncan today and committed 140 state troopers, a helicopter and whatever additional aid is needed, said Glendening spokesman Charles Porcari. The first person killed was James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring, who was shot Wednesday evening in the parking lot of a grocery store in Glenmont Shopping Center at 2201 Randolph Road in Wheaton, police said. James "Sonny" Buchanan, 39, of Arlington was mowing his lawn when he was killed about 7:45 this morning in the 11400 block of Rockville Pike, in the White Flint area. Then, Prenkumar Walekar of Olney was shot at 8:15 a.m. while pumping gas at a Mobil Mart gas station at 4100 Aspen Hill Road in Rockville. He died at the scene. About half an hour later, Sarah Ramos, 34, of Silver Spring died at the post office at 3802 International Drive, next to the Leisure World retirement community in Silver Spring. Ramos was shot in the head, according to a spokesman for the Montgomery County Fire and Rescue Department. Dolores Wallgren said she saw the victim as she arrived this morning to go to a beauty shop five doors down from the post office. Ramos was slumped over on a bench, bleeding from the head. "She was sitting on the bench, just sitting there," Wallgren said. In the fifth shooting, Laurie Ann Lewis-Rivera, 24, was shot and killed about 10 a.m. at the Shell gas station at 10515 Connecticut Ave. in Kensington. Mechanics working at the gas station there said they heard the shots but didn't see the person or persons who killed the woman, who was vacuuming her maroon Dodge Caravan. "We didn't see any confrontation or anybody around her," said John Mistry, owner of the gas station. About half an hour before the first shooting on Wednesday, the windows of a store at the Wheaton shopping center were shot at, but no one was injured, county police said. Rhonda Furmanski, a spokeswoman for Shoppers Food Warehouse Inc., said no one else was injured in the first shooting, which occurred about 6 p.m. yesterday. The grocery store was not taking any special security precautions today, Furmanksi said. "In light of today's events, we believe it was a random, tragic incident that's continued today, unfortunately," she said. Meanwhile, Shin Song, owner of the Mobil gas station where the third shooting occurred, said the victim was a taxi-cab driver -- a regular customer -- who was shot after he had filled up his tank for the day and was returning to his car. "He came in to fill up, and then he came inside to buy a Lotto ticket and use the bathroom," Song said. "He went back out and then somebody shot him. He fell down and we called police. "We heard a boom noise, but we thought it was a car backfiring," Song said. "We saw him fall down, and then we ran out." An employee, whom Song declined to name, tried unsuccessfully to give the victim CPR. He added that he did not see the vehicle as it sped off. Song said he did not know the cab driver's name. "It's a very scary thing that happened." A silver minivan remained parked at the pumps at the gas station, covered with blood from the cab driver, who slumped onto the vehicle after being shot. "He said call an ambulance and fell down, so I called an ambulance and tried to help him, but I didn't see anything," said the owner of the minivan, who did not want to give her name. Demme said investigators were awaiting forensics tests from each of the five crime scenes, but "no common denominator" has been found between the victims. None appeared to have been robbed, Demme said at an afternoon news conference. Race did not appear to be a motive, noting the victims included a black male, a Hispanic male, a Hispanic female and a white female. "No, we have no indication of that yet. ... We're across the board in genders and ethnic backgrounds," Demme said. Terrorism is also not believed to be a motive, Demme said. A single shot apparently was fired at each location, but it is unclear whether they were fired from a vehicle or at what range. Witnesses were found in the vicinity of each shooting, and all have been cooperative, Demme said. The FBI, state police, Secret Service and ATF are all involved in the investigation. All white box trucks are being stopped, Demme said. "There's been numerous traffic stops," Moose said. "There's been a number of arrests, there's been a number of conversations with drivers of white vans. "We've been turning up people who have issues, but a number of the contacts are not related to this incident." Montgomery County schools were locked down this morning, a decision made after consultations with Superintendent Jerry D. Weast, Moose said. No one was allowed to leave or enter school buildings unless a parent called ahead to pick up their children. Parents were urged not to create on rush on the schools to get their children. "None of the victims were of school age. None of the incidents occurred near schools. Our schools are safe. Our children are safe at this point," Moose said. All outdoor activities for the day were also canceled, school officials said. Duncan says the plan is still to have Montgomery County public schools open on time tomorrow. Schools in Baltimore, Howard and Frederick counties were also locked down. In Washington, a public schools spokeswoman said all recess and outdoor activities were canceled. In Howard County, an officer was present at every school to assist with dismissal, officials said. Howard public school officials canceled all athletic and other events for this afternoon and evening. Columbia Association and Recreation and Parks said that its aftercare programs in elementary and middle schools were to be held as usual. A white truck matching the description of the van being sought was stopped by state troopers on Interstate 95 in Howard County, and the two occupants were questioned before officers determined they were not involved, said Sgt. John Carhart. Police in Montgomery County also made several stops, police said. Fairfax County Police, meanwhile, posted two officers at the American Legion Bridge on the Capital Beltway, watching for the white truck in case it crosses into Virginia, Fairfax police spokeswoman Sophia Grinnan said. Suzy Cooper, a hair stylist at Images Hair Design near the post office where the fourth victim was shot, said many customers canceled their appointments. "We had quite a lot of people who heard the news on TV and were too scared to come by," Cooper said. A nearby Giant supermarket, usually busy with senior citizens, was nearly deserted early this afternoon. Lillian Ansell, 79, who lives at Leisure World, showed up for her appointment at Images. She said she was unsettled after hearing about the shootings because she shops at the strip mall where the post office is located and at the shopping center where the first shooting occurred Wednesday. "It's scary. This is a safe neighborhood. For this to happen is unusual," Ansell said. Montgomery County police are offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the shootings and have have set up a tip line for anyone with information. The number is 240-777-2600. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32555-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 22:30:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46494 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 22:30:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46473 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 22:30:13 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <66ED92310D749CA4986DD421C9A51C96@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:32:03 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... anybody read about the shootings in montgomery county? sounds like a professional job. no witnesses...in an unmarked white van?! and the victims were civilians...like with the anthrax attacks. more planned terrorism to keep mainstream america in fear and giving more power to our commander and chief to eliminate these 'evil do'ers'? and oppress people he deems unacceptable? from drudgereport.com... 5 fatally shot in Montgomery Co. Victims killed within miles of each other; 'Strong possibity that they are all connected'; Schools locked down as white van sought ----------------------------------------------------------------- SunSpot staff and wire reports Originally published October 3, 2002, 5:45 PM EDT Five people were shot and killed within miles of each other in less than 16 hours in Montgomery County, authorities said, prompting officials to lock down schools while police stopped and searched every white van or truck in the hunt for suspects. "We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles A. Moose. "If that leads us in one direction as far as a profile, I’ll have to leave that to my investigators." Noting the location and timing of the shootings late Wednesday and early today, which occurred one by one in public places in several Washington suburbs, department spokeswoman Joyce Utter said that "there's a strong possibility that they are all connected." Police said they did not have any eyewitnesses to the shootings, but one person reported seeing a white van with two occupants speed from the scene of one shooting. The van was not reported at any other shooting scene, said Capt. Nancy Demme, a Montgomery County police spokeswoman. Gov. Parris Glendening spoke with Montgomery County Executive Douglas M. Duncan today and committed 140 state troopers, a helicopter and whatever additional aid is needed, said Glendening spokesman Charles Porcari. The first person killed was James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring, who was shot Wednesday evening in the parking lot of a grocery store in Glenmont Shopping Center at 2201 Randolph Road in Wheaton, police said. James "Sonny" Buchanan, 39, of Arlington was mowing his lawn when he was killed about 7:45 this morning in the 11400 block of Rockville Pike, in the White Flint area. Then, Prenkumar Walekar of Olney was shot at 8:15 a.m. while pumping gas at a Mobil Mart gas station at 4100 Aspen Hill Road in Rockville. He died at the scene. About half an hour later, Sarah Ramos, 34, of Silver Spring died at the post office at 3802 International Drive, next to the Leisure World retirement community in Silver Spring. Ramos was shot in the head, according to a spokesman for the Montgomery County Fire and Rescue Department. Dolores Wallgren said she saw the victim as she arrived this morning to go to a beauty shop five doors down from the post office. Ramos was slumped over on a bench, bleeding from the head. "She was sitting on the bench, just sitting there," Wallgren said. In the fifth shooting, Laurie Ann Lewis-Rivera, 24, was shot and killed about 10 a.m. at the Shell gas station at 10515 Connecticut Ave. in Kensington. Mechanics working at the gas station there said they heard the shots but didn't see the person or persons who killed the woman, who was vacuuming her maroon Dodge Caravan. "We didn't see any confrontation or anybody around her," said John Mistry, owner of the gas station. About half an hour before the first shooting on Wednesday, the windows of a store at the Wheaton shopping center were shot at, but no one was injured, county police said. Rhonda Furmanski, a spokeswoman for Shoppers Food Warehouse Inc., said no one else was injured in the first shooting, which occurred about 6 p.m. yesterday. The grocery store was not taking any special security precautions today, Furmanksi said. "In light of today's events, we believe it was a random, tragic incident that's continued today, unfortunately," she said. Meanwhile, Shin Song, owner of the Mobil gas station where the third shooting occurred, said the victim was a taxi-cab driver -- a regular customer -- who was shot after he had filled up his tank for the day and was returning to his car. "He came in to fill up, and then he came inside to buy a Lotto ticket and use the bathroom," Song said. "He went back out and then somebody shot him. He fell down and we called police. "We heard a boom noise, but we thought it was a car backfiring," Song said. "We saw him fall down, and then we ran out." An employee, whom Song declined to name, tried unsuccessfully to give the victim CPR. He added that he did not see the vehicle as it sped off. Song said he did not know the cab driver's name. "It's a very scary thing that happened." A silver minivan remained parked at the pumps at the gas station, covered with blood from the cab driver, who slumped onto the vehicle after being shot. "He said call an ambulance and fell down, so I called an ambulance and tried to help him, but I didn't see anything," said the owner of the minivan, who did not want to give her name. Demme said investigators were awaiting forensics tests from each of the five crime scenes, but "no common denominator" has been found between the victims. None appeared to have been robbed, Demme said at an afternoon news conference. Race did not appear to be a motive, noting the victims included a black male, a Hispanic male, a Hispanic female and a white female. "No, we have no indication of that yet. ... We're across the board in genders and ethnic backgrounds," Demme said. Terrorism is also not believed to be a motive, Demme said. A single shot apparently was fired at each location, but it is unclear whether they were fired from a vehicle or at what range. Witnesses were found in the vicinity of each shooting, and all have been cooperative, Demme said. The FBI, state police, Secret Service and ATF are all involved in the investigation. All white box trucks are being stopped, Demme said. "There's been numerous traffic stops," Moose said. "There's been a number of arrests, there's been a number of conversations with drivers of white vans. "We've been turning up people who have issues, but a number of the contacts are not related to this incident." Montgomery County schools were locked down this morning, a decision made after consultations with Superintendent Jerry D. Weast, Moose said. No one was allowed to leave or enter school buildings unless a parent called ahead to pick up their children. Parents were urged not to create on rush on the schools to get their children. "None of the victims were of school age. None of the incidents occurred near schools. Our schools are safe. Our children are safe at this point," Moose said. All outdoor activities for the day were also canceled, school officials said. Duncan says the plan is still to have Montgomery County public schools open on time tomorrow. Schools in Baltimore, Howard and Frederick counties were also locked down. In Washington, a public schools spokeswoman said all recess and outdoor activities were canceled. In Howard County, an officer was present at every school to assist with dismissal, officials said. Howard public school officials canceled all athletic and other events for this afternoon and evening. Columbia Association and Recreation and Parks said that its aftercare programs in elementary and middle schools were to be held as usual. A white truck matching the description of the van being sought was stopped by state troopers on Interstate 95 in Howard County, and the two occupants were questioned before officers determined they were not involved, said Sgt. John Carhart. Police in Montgomery County also made several stops, police said. Fairfax County Police, meanwhile, posted two officers at the American Legion Bridge on the Capital Beltway, watching for the white truck in case it crosses into Virginia, Fairfax police spokeswoman Sophia Grinnan said. Suzy Cooper, a hair stylist at Images Hair Design near the post office where the fourth victim was shot, said many customers canceled their appointments. "We had quite a lot of people who heard the news on TV and were too scared to come by," Cooper said. A nearby Giant supermarket, usually busy with senior citizens, was nearly deserted early this afternoon. Lillian Ansell, 79, who lives at Leisure World, showed up for her appointment at Images. She said she was unsettled after hearing about the shootings because she shops at the strip mall where the post office is located and at the shopping center where the first shooting occurred Wednesday. "It's scary. This is a safe neighborhood. For this to happen is unusual," Ansell said. Montgomery County police are offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the shootings and have have set up a tip line for anyone with information. The number is 240-777-2600. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32556-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 03 23:13:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60855 invoked by uid 1151); 3 Oct 2002 23:13:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60831 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 23:13:23 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.121.115.179] From: "DJ Tronic" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org, nw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:13:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2002 23:13:31.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D9A5B80:01C26B32] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] The HARD HITTERS Tour! 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Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... from AOL News... Stewart had joined the NYSE's board of directors in June 2002 and was one of 27 members. Her term was set to expire in 2003. The home decorating diva dumped her nearly 4,000 shares of ImClone last December, a day before the stock began to plummet on news that the Food and Drug Administration would not review its application for its highly touted cancer drug, Erbitux. The FDA decision meant the drug, upon which the company's fortunes relied, was unlikely to gain approval soon. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32558-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 20:33:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76469 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 20:33:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76459 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 20:33:40 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021004162951.009e99a0@mail.eristocrat.net> X-Sender: lutinpunk%eristocrat.net@mail.eristocrat.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 16:33:00 -0700 To: "shepherd t" From: laura Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org,pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <863D7A86A0E275F47A351152F9A75E6D@undergroundt.care2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... fuck you stevie. "Sermo datur cunctis; animi sapientia paucis." www.eristocrat.net AIM: LutinPunk410 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32559-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 20:40:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81913 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 20:40:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81902 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 20:40:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3D9DFCEC.F8B20084@tc.umn.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:41:16 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk Organization: Minnesota Medical Foundation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shepherd t , mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <970B5B3EB43880149A4D2F58ED651801@undergroundt.care2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] mmf94-165-54.mmf.umn.edu #+LO+TR X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Once again, stevie, you don't have a good grasp of that whole "cause" and "effect" thing. The reason that Stewart's in trouble in the first place is because the FDA said that ImClone's drug was no good and rejected the application, she (allegedly) found out about it before it was public, and you know the rest. Just to clarify that for you, stevie, IMCLONE'S DRUG IS BUNK (unlike Tony's pee pills). Not knowing why I waste time replying, Tom shepherd t wrote: > Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... > > from AOL News... > > Stewart had joined the NYSE's board of directors in June 2002 and was > one of 27 members. Her term was set to expire in 2003. > > The home decorating diva dumped her nearly 4,000 shares of ImClone > last December, a day before the stock began to plummet on news that > the Food and Drug Administration would not review its application for > its highly touted cancer drug, Erbitux. The FDA decision meant the > drug, upon which the company's fortunes relied, was unlikely to gain > approval soon. > > Care2 make the world greener! > Your Actions Can Help! > Support Strong Environmental Protections > http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32560-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 21:54:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34173 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 21:54:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34142 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 21:54:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: Tom Sprynczynatyk cc: shepherd t , In-Reply-To: <3D9DFCEC.F8B20084@tc.umn.edu> Message-ID: <20021004144945.O31391-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... all.this.talk.about.tony's.pee.pills...i'm.curious... what.are.their.effects?do.those.cause.brain.damage? could.someone.slip.these,unbeknownst.to.me,in.my.drink,then.take.advantage. of.me? if.trippy.visuals.are.involved,it.might.be.worth.the.risk... dude,i.gotta.get.a.space.bar... chad On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: >Once again, stevie, you don't have a good grasp of that whole "cause" and >"effect" thing. The reason that Stewart's in trouble in the first place >is because the FDA said that ImClone's drug was no good and rejected the >application, she (allegedly) found out about it before it was public, and >you know the rest. Just to clarify that for you, stevie, IMCLONE'S DRUG >IS BUNK (unlike Tony's pee pills). > > >Not knowing why I waste time replying, >Tom > >shepherd t wrote: > >> Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... >> >> from AOL News... >> >> Stewart had joined the NYSE's board of directors in June 2002 and was >> one of 27 members. Her term was set to expire in 2003. >> >> The home decorating diva dumped her nearly 4,000 shares of ImClone >> last December, a day before the stock began to plummet on news that >> the Food and Drug Administration would not review its application for >> its highly touted cancer drug, Erbitux. The FDA decision meant the >> drug, upon which the company's fortunes relied, was unlikely to gain >> approval soon. >> >> Care2 make the world greener! >> Your Actions Can Help! >> Support Strong Environmental Protections >> http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32561-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 22:03:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39714 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 22:03:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39698 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 22:03:42 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:03:24 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E04@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Thread-Index: AcJr8MaRVaGCYqnzR+mONQSS0LlxwgAAI72Q From: "Tony Sebion" To: "spad chonholz" , "Tom Sprynczynatyk" Cc: "shepherd t" , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... I hope someday these legendary "pee pills" end up in some anti-rave documentary. -t -----Original Message----- From: spad chonholz [mailto:chad@hyperreal.org]=20 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... all.this.talk.about.tony's.pee.pills...i'm.curious... what.are.their.effects?do.those.cause.brain.damage? could.someone.slip.these,unbeknownst.to.me,in.my.drink,then.take.advanta ge. of.me? if.trippy.visuals.are.involved,it.might.be.worth.the.risk... dude,i.gotta.get.a.space.bar... chad On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: >Once again, stevie, you don't have a good grasp of that whole "cause"=20 >and "effect" thing. The reason that Stewart's in trouble in the first=20 >place is because the FDA said that ImClone's drug was no good and=20 >rejected the application, she (allegedly) found out about it before it=20 >was public, and you know the rest. Just to clarify that for you,=20 >stevie, IMCLONE'S DRUG IS BUNK (unlike Tony's pee pills). > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32562-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 22:43:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76200 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 22:43:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76190 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 22:43:43 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <2ECA71DE61945C746A6E46A281FE5866@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:42:08 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: spry0004@tc.umn.edu,shepherd t ,mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... where does it say that the anti-cancer drug was bunk?!...it only says the FDA wouldn't review their application. and you think tony's pee pills are good? you are obviously the one with your head on backwards. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Tom Sprynczynatyk Sent: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:41:16 -0500 To: shepherd t ,mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Once again, stevie, you don't have a good grasp of that whole "cause" and "effect" thing. =A0The reason that Stewart's in trouble in the first place is because the FDA said that ImClone's drug was no good and rejected the application, she (allegedly) found out about it before it was public, and you know the rest. =A0Just to clarify that for you, stevie, IMCLONE'S DRUG IS BUNK (unlike Tony's pee pills). Not knowing why I waste time replying, Tom shepherd t wrote: > Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... > > from AOL News... > > Stewart had joined the NYSE's board of directors in June 2002 and was > one of 27 members. Her term was set to expire in 2003. > > The home decorating diva dumped her nearly 4,000 shares of ImClone > last December, a day before the stock began to plummet on news that > the Food and Drug Administration would not review its application for > its highly touted cancer drug, Erbitux. The FDA decision meant the > drug, upon which the company's fortunes relied, was unlikely to gain > approval soon. > > Care2 make the world greener! > Your Actions Can Help! > Support Strong Environmental Protections > http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32563-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 22:49:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86096 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 22:49:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86079 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 22:49:20 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <3F7471254D8F74F4E8B33046D4167E24@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:47:46 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: lutinpunk@eristocrat.net,"shepherd t" CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org,pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... hmmm...are you hitting on me? ;) ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: laura Sent: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 16:33:00 -0700 To: "shepherd t" CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org,pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... fuck you stevie. "Sermo datur cunctis; animi sapientia paucis." =A0 =A0www.eristocrat.net AIM: LutinPunk410 ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32564-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 04 23:22:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2910 invoked by uid 1151); 4 Oct 2002 23:22:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2900 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 23:22:58 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:22:37 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E05@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Thread-Index: AcJr93bDClclVQuQTTWG9fViNrDA6QABUjdQ From: "Tony Sebion" To: "shepherd t" , , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Are you trying to get more CIA on yo ass? _Don't_ be dissin my product, -t -----Original Message----- From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will = delay cancer cure... and you think tony's pee pills are good? you are obviously the one with your head on backwards. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Tom Sprynczynatyk Sent: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:41:16 -0500 To: shepherd t ,mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will=20 delay cancer cure... Once again, stevie, you don't have a good grasp of that whole "cause"=20 and "effect" thing. =A0The reason that Stewart's in trouble in the first=20 place is because the FDA said that ImClone's drug was no good and rejected=20 the application, she (allegedly) found out about it before it was public,=20 and you know the rest. =A0Just to clarify that for you, stevie, IMCLONE'S=20 DRUG IS BUNK (unlike Tony's pee pills). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32565-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 00:49:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35003 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 00:49:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34993 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 00:49:08 -0000 Message-ID: <1085.207.67.91.222.1033778957.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something about Martha Stewart STEVIET Why waste your time using this invaluable forum to defend your homemaker heroine, Martha Stewrat, when you could be EXPOSING THE WORLDWIDE TENTACLES OF JINX?! Have you even taken advantage of the Freedom of Information Act toward this end? Better do it now, before war in the middle east causes Congress to suspend it (as it looks like the war may involve not only Iraq, but possibly Iran, Libya, and Sudan, it could be a long one). If all the worldwide Jinx sightings are true, he's got more than a job going for him. The mighty tentacles of his employer probably mean he is not only reading this right now, but watching YOU read this, all from the safety of his mountain lair. Please... we don't want to see pics of you as his bitch posted on the Net a year from now, tossing Jinx's salad, or wiping his man mustard off your chin. Information wants to be free... for now. JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32566-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 01:27:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46270 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 01:27:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46259 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 01:27:29 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <51643E9EE7835FF41A23C4B19C5A97E6@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:25:54 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: jp@phreak.net, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something about Martha Stewart jinx can't hide in his shady mountain forever. he and the rest of his terrorist cohorts will be eliminated. but, in the mean time...thank God it's friday! time to go partying again! george acosta @ red zone tonight and the grand re-opening of mekka tomorrow night! ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Sent: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) To: Subject: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something about Martha Stewart STEVIET Why waste your time using this invaluable forum to defend your homemaker heroine, Martha Stewrat, when you could be EXPOSING THE WORLDWIDE TENTACLES OF JINX?! Have you even taken advantage of the Freedom of Information Act toward this end? Better do it now, before war in the middle east causes Congress to suspend it (as it looks like the war may involve not only Iraq, but possibly Iran, Libya, and Sudan, it could be a long one). If all the worldwide Jinx sightings are true, he's got more than a job going for him. The mighty tentacles of his employer probably mean he is not only reading this right now, but watching YOU read this, all from the safety of his mountain lair. Please... we don't want to see pics of you as his bitch posted on the Net a year from now, tossing Jinx's salad, or wiping his man mustard off your chin. Information wants to be free... for now. JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32567-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 05:33:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42030 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 05:32:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42019 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 05:32:57 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.215.48.216] From: "dan sharp" To: jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 05:33:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2002 05:33:10.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0D19370:01C26C30] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something about Martha Stewart actually, the freedom of information act has already been repealed. (0_o) >From: >To: >Subject: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something >about Martha Stewart >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) > >STEVIET > >Why waste your time using this invaluable forum to defend your homemaker >heroine, Martha Stewrat, when you could be EXPOSING THE WORLDWIDE TENTACLES >OF JINX?! Have you even taken advantage of the Freedom of Information Act >toward this end? Better do it now, before war in the middle east causes >Congress to suspend it (as it looks like the war may involve not only Iraq, >but possibly Iran, Libya, and Sudan, it could be a long one). > >If all the worldwide Jinx sightings are true, he's got more than a job >going >for him. The mighty tentacles of his employer probably mean he is not only >reading this right now, but watching YOU read this, all from the safety of >his mountain lair. Please... we don't want to see pics of you as his bitch >posted on the Net a year from now, tossing Jinx's salad, or wiping his man >mustard off your chin. Information wants to be free... for now. JP > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32568-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 05:53:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47380 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 05:53:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47369 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 05:53:31 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021005014854.009ed250@mail.eristocrat.net> X-Sender: lutinpunk%eristocrat.net@mail.eristocrat.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 01:52:54 -0700 To: "shepherd t" From: laura Cc: "shepherd t" ,mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3F7471254D8F74F4E8B33046D4167E24@undergroundt.care2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... not quite, moron..... i refuse to let you turn this lunatic NRA freak into some stupid *stevie-t-conspiracy*. i think that you are living breathing proof that people can be completely insane..... these shootings are happening (yes, another one today) very close to where i live. its scary, and g-dub didnt do it. fuck you. go to babelfish and translate my sig. At 06:47 PM 10/4/02 -0400, shepherd t wrote: >hmmm...are you hitting on me? >;) "Sermo datur cunctis; animi sapientia paucis." www.eristocrat.net AIM: LutinPunk410 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32569-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 20:53:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 446 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 20:53:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 436 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 20:53:35 -0000 Message-ID: <004601c26cb1$4a2560d0$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: "[MW-Raves]" Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 16:53:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... http://stevie.t.does.it.pornstarstyle.com/thismeanswar J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32570-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 21:01:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2274 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 21:01:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2264 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 21:01:30 -0000 Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 17:01:17 -0400 From: EDMPromotions@aol.com To: mesh@cinci.rr.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <28FCEA1A.6738E633.EB6B836C@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... oh my god, the suspense! THE SUSPENSE!!! -chocolate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32571-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 21:03:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2901 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 21:03:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2889 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 21:03:47 -0000 Message-ID: <009101c28456$a97583a0$38ad36cf@pavilion> From: "jea" To: "Josh [M]" , "[MW-Raves]" References: <004601c26cb1$4a2560d0$baf9a618@core> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:05:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... that is the funniest shit ive seen all month.. lol jes ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh [M] To: [MW-Raves] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... > http://stevie.t.does.it.pornstarstyle.com/thismeanswar > > J.[M] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32572-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 05 23:17:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39740 invoked by uid 1151); 5 Oct 2002 23:17:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39728 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 23:17:21 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021005191527.009e5500@mail.eristocrat.net> X-Sender: lutinpunk%eristocrat.net@mail.eristocrat.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:16:31 -0700 To: gregory trimper From: laura Cc: "Midwest Ravers (shell therof)" In-Reply-To: <3D9F53CD.1010100@spamcop.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021005014854.009ed250@mail.eristocrat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] the shootings in montgomery county... > > >>"Sermo datur cunctis; animi sapientia paucis." > > >So, if I can derust my latin, the best I could offer is "Everyone can >speak, few can think." speach for many, intellegence for few. close. <3L "Sermo datur cunctis; animi sapientia paucis." www.eristocrat.net AIM: LutinPunk410 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32573-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 00:06:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53221 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 00:06:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53211 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 00:06:26 -0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 17:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Stevon-Christophe Reply-To: facade3@ziplip.com To: jea , "Josh [M]" , "[MW-Raves]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZLPwdHint: X-ZLExpiry: -1 X-ZLReceiptConfirm: N X-ZLAuthType: WEB-MAIL X-ZLAuthOn: Y X-Mailer: ZipLip v3.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... yeah...this shit is pretty sick :) "pushin buttons" > -----Original Message----- > From: jea [mailto:jealeigh@wizardworkshop.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002, 2:02 PM > To: "Josh [M]" , "[MW-Raves]" > Subject: Re: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... > > that is the funniest shit ive seen all month.. > > lol > > jes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Josh [M] > To: [MW-Raves] > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:53 PM > Subject: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... > > > > http://stevie.t.does.it.pornstarstyle.com/thismeanswar > > > > J.[M] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...trying to make it all the way home Stevon-Christophe Burrell facade3.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32574-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 00:44:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62298 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 00:44:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62276 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 00:44:24 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <03240075108C74D4288E1F4D17EF2174@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 20:42:49 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] another conversation w/ stevie... Son316east: do u know where layla went? Rapacious Heart: where? Son316east: yeah Rapacious Heart: oh you're asking me....i don't even know who she is, how could i possibly know where she went Son316east: my ex Son316east: what u been up to? Rapacious Heart: i know she's your ex...she's all you talk about, and saving the world. i never met the girl, i've never talked to her before...in jail and you? Son316east: you're in jail?! Son316east: how?! Rapacious Heart: was.....i had a warrent out for my arrest Son316east: for what? Son316east: you're in jail right now? Rapacious Heart: bench warrent....i missed a court date. no...i just got out Son316east: geesh Son316east: why are girls so shady nowadays Rapacious Heart: i'm not shady! Son316east: what was the court date for? Rapacious Heart: a traffic charge....look i let being 18 go to my head, i lost rack of myself and got into trouble. I turned my life upside down and inside out, i'm doing well once again...and so, i've been to jail 3 times, doesn't make me shady or a bad person... Son316east: i worry about u girl Son316east: especially when u have tried killing yourself before Rapacious Heart: everyone does....i'm fine, i am gonna be fine. Rapacious Heart: that's over Son316east: are you bi-polar? Rapacious Heart: i found my salvation on the road to Hopewell, Ohio and I am no longer depressed. no...i have mental problems like everyone else Son316east: i don't have mental problems Rapacious Heart: yeah right Son316east: i don't Son316east: are you on medication? Rapacious Heart: your stuck on a chic that don't want you anymore, you turn around and ask me where she's went and i don't know her personally. that sounds like a problem to me....you think your god's messanger and take it too far... you are as fruity as they get hun. no i don't need medication Rapacious Heart: i haven't touched drugs in months Rapacious Heart: i get sad and i go climb rock faces, take a hike, or ride my horse....i'm not the person you met. i'm slowly falling in love, and my future looks brighter than ever Son316east: there are many messengers for god....they're called priests Son316east: none of them are insane Son316east: lots of guys miss their girls Rapacious Heart: not to a point where it's unhealthy Son316east: i'm not unhealthy Rapacious Heart: i know you miss your girl, but you gotta move on dude Son316east: i'm very healthy Rapacious Heart: i miss my husband Rapacious Heart: but he beat me and i couldn't get over it, now i am and life goes on Son316east: i've never tried killing myself nor do i take medication Rapacious Heart: nor do i....i tried to kill myself because you don't know how bad things are for me, then or now Son316east: well he was just a bad guy Son316east: i'm one of the good ones Rapacious Heart: they all are Son316east: no, they're not Son316east: don't think that way Rapacious Heart: yes they are...they all lie to get laid, they all lie period, they see the next pretty thing to walk down their road and then they're sprung Son316east: don't think that way Son316east: not all guys are like that Son316east: but yes, guys look Rapacious Heart: you pour your soul to them then they throw it in your face, you give up all your heart and they crush it in their hands Son316east: u sort of have to Son316east: i've never crushed your heart Rapacious Heart: you give them the world and they give you nothing Rapacious Heart: you would if i gave it to you Son316east: i gave layla the world at one point...she didn't know how to handle it Rapacious Heart: girls are just as bad Son316east: i know Rapacious Heart: god's greatest sin....humanity Son316east: girls can be very scandelous Rapacious Heart: we hurt each other too much Rapacious Heart: but that's the way it is. my new man....i told him to beat me sensless, he did and cried after. i know he would never beat me Son316east: it all boils down to envy and lost love...or being hurt from not recieving good love Son316east: why in the world u want him to beat u? Son316east: it was like whan layla was actually trying to teach me to rape her Son316east: i was like: what in the world? Rapacious Heart: i wanted him to see what i go through everyday. so he beat me after a big argument, and he saw and now he is so scared to lay a hand on me, even in a romantic way Son316east: geesh, u really messed this guy up Rapacious Heart: yup...he needed to see Son316east: and he didn't even want to beat u Son316east: u forced him to do it Son316east: that's really messed up Rapacious Heart: yup Rapacious Heart: but it proves a point Rapacious Heart: not like i was really hurt. i've been beaten so many times that i don't even feel the pain Son316east: that girls are manipulative? Rapacious Heart: all people are Son316east: that's messed up Rapacious Heart: even me, except i am so good at it i can have anyone wrapped around my finger, i don't like to do it unless i have too Son316east: eew, u sound like layla when u say that Son316east: the evil layla Son316east: i hope she's better now Rapacious Heart: how many times have i heard you say that Son316east: well, when u say: i can have anyone wrapped around my finger Rapacious Heart: it's true Rapacious Heart: i don't like being a bad person so i don't use it Son316east: geesh Rapacious Heart: i don't want all this crap....i just want my horse and my career Son316east: your horse?! Son316east: i want layla Rapacious Heart: yeah....my horse, Strider...my sun, moon, stars, my heaven and heart Rapacious Heart: well you can't have her anymore Son316east: why, what happened to her? Rapacious Heart: i don't know...she left you Son316east: you're not sexually attracted to your horse are you? Rapacious Heart: no Son316east: that would be messed up Rapacious Heart: that's sick!!! Son316east: well do you like your horse more than men? Rapacious Heart: yes....he loves me unconditionally, he will never hurt me, never leave me, always loyal to me, always by my side, he comforts me, protects me, and loves me because of who i am. he knows my soul and heals my heart. men are fun to look at and have sex with....but nothing more Son316east: wait, so u were talking about your horse there? Son316east: what color is your horse again? Rapacious Heart: when? just now...yeah, he's my guardian angel and my best friend. he's open, honest, and true. he's white with brown dots Rapacious Heart: he's called an appaloosa Son316east: why did you choose to call him appaloosa? Rapacious Heart: that's his breed Son316east: oh ok Rapacious Heart: the pony of the natives....the nez peirce created the breed Son316east: you don't mean appalachian? Rapacious Heart: no Rapacious Heart: that's the name of a mountain Rapacious Heart: or area Son316east: ok Rapacious Heart: not horse or tribe Rapacious Heart: appaloosa...why they are called that, i don't know. what they name means, i don't know that either....i just know the breed Son316east: ok Son316east: well, i hope u get better Rapacious Heart: i am better Rapacious Heart: i've never been so happy in my life Son316east: ok, as long as you're happy Rapacious Heart: life is good Rapacious Heart: well peace out...want to get something to eat before i go riding tonight Rapacious Heart: be good...find a new girl and get over your ex...it be best for you. night Son316east: ok, good night Rapacious Heart: This is for all you men out there...I can't hold it in anymore, it burns through my veins like fire. Tears that slide down my face like battery acid, can you see my soul crying through my eyes? Can you feel my heart bleed when you press your finger tips to my chest? I still feel him beating me when I wake up at night...so tell me...I see the blood all over your hands, does it make you feel more like a man? Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32575-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 00:48:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63914 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 00:48:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63892 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 00:48:24 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <348306FFEEEE199449FBA61E069057F7@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 20:46:50 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Grand Re-Opening of Mekka tonight in Columbus... Nexxt Entertainment has teamed up with Skim Productions and Underground Sounds to bring you the ultimate fall massive event.... Nexxt Level III: The Final Chapter....SUSPENSE. Saturday, Oct. 5th @ The Grand Re-Opening of the Legendary former Mekka Nightclub aka GLOW (note: not Amnesia but the real deal), 382 West Nationwide BLVD., Downtown Columbus, OH DJs Area One (Progressive Trance/House) Dzuy Doan (ClubbedOut, Los Angeles) DJ Link (Emaginations, Denver) Tom E-sensual (Nexxt Ent., Cincinnati) Chinh Nguyen (Nexxt Ent., Cincinnati) Area Two (Breakbeats) DJ Duckie (Electrocity, Houston/New Orleans) DJ Phatdaddy (Sneek Peek Productions, Columbus) DJ Like Whoa (Sneek Peek Productions, Columbus) DJ Breakz (3 AM Productions, Columbus) DJ Digital (3 AM Productions, Columbus) Area Three (Hip Hop) DJ Fluid (502 Heads Records, Louisville) ILL~S (INS, Underground Sounds, Philadelphia) Kamron (Underground Sounds, NYC) DJ PT Da Dreama (Skim Productions, Columbus) Info: -$10 at the door all night -18 to party, 21 to drink -Must have Proper ID -Early Arrival Suggested, THIS EVENT WILL HIT CAPACITY (2000 people) -Out of towners email us at WhatsNexxt@aol.com for hotel Info -For more info check out www.WhatsNexxt.com, www.Skimproductions.com, www.Hypnotika.org, or email us at WhatsNexxt@aol.com, SkimProductions@aol.com Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32576-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 02:22:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82229 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 02:21:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82218 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 02:21:58 -0000 Message-ID: <1126.207.67.91.211.1033870926.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:22:06 -0500 (CDT) From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities from IDMList http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html maybe StevieT is only half as insane as I thought! JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32577-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 03:12:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90931 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 03:12:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90920 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 03:12:02 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c26ce6$3f20fe80$83d12e44@olathe01.ks.comcast.net> Reply-To: "spaceKC" From: "spaceKC" To: "[MW-Raves]" References: <004601c26cb1$4a2560d0$baf9a618@core> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 22:12:47 -0500 Organization: spaceKC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C26CBC.5621C3A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C26CBC.5621C3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable brilliant. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Josh [M]=20 To: [MW-Raves]=20 Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... http://stevie.t.does.it.pornstarstyle.com/thismeanswar J.[M] ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C26CBC.5621C3A0-- From mw-raves-return-32578-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 08:14:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45812 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 08:14:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45797 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 08:14:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 01:14:23 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: Tony Sebion cc: Tom Sprynczynatyk , shepherd t , In-Reply-To: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E04@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> Message-ID: <20021006011220.D43959-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... if.you're.still.here.in.20.years...you.just.may.see.it.happen. but.you.didn't.answer.my.questions. chad On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tony Sebion wrote: >I hope someday these legendary "pee pills" end up in some anti-rave >documentary. > >-t > >-----Original Message----- >From: spad chonholz [mailto:chad@hyperreal.org] >Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:55 PM >Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay >cancer cure... > >all.this.talk.about.tony's.pee.pills...i'm.curious... > >what.are.their.effects?do.those.cause.brain.damage? >could.someone.slip.these,unbeknownst.to.me,in.my.drink,then.take.advanta >ge. >of.me? > >if.trippy.visuals.are.involved,it.might.be.worth.the.risk... > >dude,i.gotta.get.a.space.bar... > >chad > >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: > >>Once again, stevie, you don't have a good grasp of that whole "cause" >>and "effect" thing. The reason that Stewart's in trouble in the first >>place is because the FDA said that ImClone's drug was no good and >>rejected the application, she (allegedly) found out about it before it >>was public, and you know the rest. Just to clarify that for you, >>stevie, IMCLONE'S DRUG IS BUNK (unlike Tony's pee pills). >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32579-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 08:15:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46235 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 08:15:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46222 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 08:15:30 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <87C1A03386FF1A94299E57986F6D9FA9@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 04:14:01 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: jp@phreak.net, CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities i never was insane. falsely accusing insanity is like one of the number one ways of covering up corruption. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Sent: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:22:06 -0500 (CDT) To: Subject: [mw] U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities from IDMList http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html maybe StevieT is only half as insane as I thought! JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32580-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 08:16:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46721 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 08:16:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46708 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 08:16:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 01:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: dan sharp cc: jp@phreak.net, In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021006011603.Q43959-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something about Martha Stewart where.did.you.find.this.out? sounds.like.hogwash. chad On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, dan sharp wrote: >actually, the freedom of information act has already been repealed. > >(0_o) > > >>From: >>To: >>Subject: [mw] exposing the worldwide tentacles of Jinx, was re: something >>about Martha Stewart >>Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) >> >>STEVIET >> >>Why waste your time using this invaluable forum to defend your homemaker >>heroine, Martha Stewrat, when you could be EXPOSING THE WORLDWIDE TENTACLES >>OF JINX?! Have you even taken advantage of the Freedom of Information Act >>toward this end? Better do it now, before war in the middle east causes >>Congress to suspend it (as it looks like the war may involve not only Iraq, >>but possibly Iran, Libya, and Sudan, it could be a long one). >> >>If all the worldwide Jinx sightings are true, he's got more than a job >>going >>for him. The mighty tentacles of his employer probably mean he is not only >>reading this right now, but watching YOU read this, all from the safety of >>his mountain lair. Please... we don't want to see pics of you as his bitch >>posted on the Net a year from now, tossing Jinx's salad, or wiping his man >>mustard off your chin. Information wants to be free... for now. JP >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32581-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 08:23:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47627 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 08:23:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47604 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 08:23:53 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <2CAFC7C0FF05FB240A662E520A7D8CE3@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 04:22:25 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] the low down... Son316east: there has to be some real love left out there somewhere Son316east: but as long as people want war...it's not happening Son316east: i can't stand the control freaks Son316east: they were way out of line and they know it Son316east: they should be ashamed of themselves Son316east: these were not leaders Son316east: they were cheaters and liars and manipulators Son316east: for all the wrong reasons Son316east: they hated the defenseless Son316east: and took advantage of the meek Son316east: they have too much yet they still start wars for wars sake Son316east: completely illogical Son316east: jinx should be executed w/o a doubt Son316east: that bastard's bad influence has done global damage Son316east: he was the instigator of the hate, ever since he beat up rob rage on his b-day to the 420 riots to 9/11 Son316east: he's a malicious manipulator Son316east: an anti-christ spirit in every sense Son316east: paranoid my ass Son316east: god damn these stupid ass spys Son316east: i curse them to hell Son316east: they call us spys Son316east: they're the god damned spys Son316east: i'm not showing them a damned thing anymore Son316east: they bite our styles, exploit it, and capitalize it while they make us pay for their sins Son316east: to hell with the control freaks Son316east: to hell with the beast Son316east: the CIA can burn in hell Son316east: god damn posers/haters Son316east: and i wouldn't put it past those bastards as the real ones behind the montgomery county shootings Son316east: god damned violent war mongers Son316east: they couldn't have vibe to save their souls Son316east: and i know those bastards were the ones who funded jinx to commit the 420 riots Son316east: did u know why those assholes did it? Son316east: to increase the police funding/budgets Son316east: when they have a surplus from over-expensive tickets Son316east: they wanted computers and video cameras in their cars Son316east: and i have a feeling the DC shootings is so they can implement a civilian spy system for cities Son316east: they pay off criminals (they even made a movie about it - XXX) Son316east: they were already planning on it on the east coast Son316east: all they needed was a valid excuse Son316east: now they have it Son316east: but the outcome?...1984 Son316east: that's why they set me up Son316east: claiming i was a spy when anybody w/ any logic can clearly see it was impossible for me to be a spy Son316east: so they could increase their spying technology Son316east: and funding Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32582-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 10:24:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60005 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 10:24:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59988 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 10:24:40 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 05:24:25 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E08@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Thread-Index: AcJtEFohOgv5UrJjSSqFE52ysmHdEAAEejKQ From: "Tony Sebion" To: "spad chonholz" Cc: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" , "shepherd t" , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... It.didn't.take.20.years.for.the.'real.thing'.to.show.up.in.them If.you.need.an.example.of.what.my.pee.does.to.someone.i'm.exposed.to.it. every.day. -t -----Original Message----- From: spad chonholz [mailto:chad@hyperreal.org]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... if.you're.still.here.in.20.years...you.just.may.see.it.happen. but.you.didn't.answer.my.questions. chad On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Tony Sebion wrote: >I hope someday these legendary "pee pills" end up in some anti-rave=20 >documentary. > >-t > >-----Original Message----- >From: spad chonholz [mailto:chad@hyperreal.org] >Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:55 PM >Subject: Re: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay=20 >cancer cure... > >all.this.talk.about.tony's.pee.pills...i'm.curious... > >what.are.their.effects?do.those.cause.brain.damage? >could.someone.slip.these,unbeknownst.to.me,in.my.drink,then.take.advant >a >ge. >of.me? > >if.trippy.visuals.are.involved,it.might.be.worth.the.risk... > >dude,i.gotta.get.a.space.bar... > >chad > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32583-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 10:26:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60547 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 10:26:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60528 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 10:26:06 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 05:25:51 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E09@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] the low down... Thread-Index: AcJtEa6mQsQxgJMqRwuThLF2yCP4YAAEOeng From: "Tony Sebion" To: "shepherd t" , Cc: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] the low down... Peepilltony: the next time you write a bunch of messages to yourself so you can forward them to email lists, you can just send them outright. Love, T W. bush -----Original Message----- From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:22 AM Subject: [mw] the low down... Son316east: there has to be some real love left out there=20 somewhere=20 Son316east: but as long as people want war...it's not happening=20 Son316east: i can't stand the control freaks=20 Son316east: they were way out of line and they know it=20 Son316east: they should be ashamed of themselves=20 Son316east: these were not leaders=20 Son316east: they were cheaters and liars and manipulators=20 Son316east: for all the wrong reasons=20 Son316east: they hated the defenseless=20 Son316east: and took advantage of the meek=20 Son316east: they have too much yet they still start wars for=20 wars sake=20 Son316east: completely illogical=20 Son316east: jinx should be executed w/o a doubt=20 Son316east: that bastard's bad influence has done global damage=20 Son316east: he was the instigator of the hate, ever since he=20 beat up rob rage on his b-day to the 420 riots to 9/11 Son316east: he's a malicious manipulator=20 Son316east: an anti-christ spirit in every sense=20 Son316east: paranoid my ass=20 Son316east: god damn these stupid ass spys=20 Son316east: i curse them to hell=20 Son316east: they call us spys=20 Son316east: they're the god damned spys=20 Son316east: i'm not showing them a damned thing anymore=20 Son316east: they bite our styles, exploit it, and capitalize it=20 while they make us pay for their sins=20 Son316east: to hell with the control freaks=20 Son316east: to hell with the beast=20 Son316east: the CIA can burn in hell=20 Son316east: god damn posers/haters=20 Son316east: and i wouldn't put it past those bastards as the=20 real ones behind the montgomery county shootings=20 Son316east: god damned violent war mongers=20 Son316east: they couldn't have vibe to save their souls=20 Son316east: and i know those bastards were the ones who funded=20 jinx to commit the 420 riots=20 Son316east: did u know why those assholes did it?=20 Son316east: to increase the police funding/budgets=20 Son316east: when they have a surplus from over-expensive tickets=20 Son316east: they wanted computers and video cameras in their=20 cars=20 Son316east: and i have a feeling the DC shootings is so they can=20 implement a civilian spy system for cities=20 Son316east: they pay off criminals (they even made a movie about=20 it - XXX) Son316east: they were already planning on it on the east coast=20 Son316east: all they needed was a valid excuse=20 Son316east: now they have it=20 Son316east: but the outcome?...1984=20 Son316east: that's why they set me up=20 Son316east: claiming i was a spy when anybody w/ any logic can=20 clearly see it was impossible for me to be a spy=20 Son316east: so they could increase their spying technology=20 Son316east: and funding=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32584-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 12:54:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97436 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 12:54:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97425 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 12:54:45 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c26d37$8c9a8180$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: "[MW-Raves]" References: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E09@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 08:54:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] the low down... {{ Tony Sebion } Peepilltony: the next time you write a bunch of messages to yourself so you can forward them to email lists, you can just send them outright. }} Yeah, but look at the record there. I think Stevie was having a 3-way IM conversation with God and Satan, but their shit doesn't show up when you hit [Ctrl+C] and [Ctrl+V]. 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TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32586-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 19:26:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61770 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 19:26:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61760 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 19:26:17 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <18476A76E09A71541AF7C9F5FC5EB033@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:24:38 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: Tony@sebion.com,"shepherd t" , CC: X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: RE: [mw] the low down... actually i was speaking with someone, but i just edited her out...this way it ensures that my opinions may not be the same as hers...and to protect her privacy. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Tony Sebion" Sent: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 05:25:51 -0500 To: "shepherd t" , CC: Subject: RE: [mw] the low down... Peepilltony: the next time you write a bunch of messages to yourself so you can forward them to email lists, you can just send them outright. Love, T W. bush -----Original Message----- From: shepherd t [mailto:undergroundt@care2.com] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:22 AM Subject: [mw] the low down... Son316east: there has to be some real love left out there somewhere Son316east: but as long as people want war...it's not happening Son316east: i can't stand the control freaks Son316east: they were way out of line and they know it Son316east: they should be ashamed of themselves Son316east: these were not leaders Son316east: they were cheaters and liars and manipulators Son316east: for all the wrong reasons Son316east: they hated the defenseless Son316east: and took advantage of the meek Son316east: they have too much yet they still start wars for wars sake Son316east: completely illogical Son316east: jinx should be executed w/o a doubt Son316east: that bastard's bad influence has done global damage Son316east: he was the instigator of the hate, ever since he beat up rob rage on his b-day to the 420 riots to 9/11 Son316east: he's a malicious manipulator Son316east: an anti-christ spirit in every sense Son316east: paranoid my ass Son316east: god damn these stupid ass spys Son316east: i curse them to hell Son316east: they call us spys Son316east: they're the god damned spys Son316east: i'm not showing them a damned thing anymore Son316east: they bite our styles, exploit it, and capitalize it while they make us pay for their sins Son316east: to hell with the control freaks Son316east: to hell with the beast Son316east: the CIA can burn in hell Son316east: god damn posers/haters Son316east: and i wouldn't put it past those bastards as the real ones behind the montgomery county shootings Son316east: god damned violent war mongers Son316east: they couldn't have vibe to save their souls Son316east: and i know those bastards were the ones who funded jinx to commit the 420 riots Son316east: did u know why those assholes did it? Son316east: to increase the police funding/budgets Son316east: when they have a surplus from over-expensive tickets Son316east: they wanted computers and video cameras in their cars Son316east: and i have a feeling the DC shootings is so they can implement a civilian spy system for cities Son316east: they pay off criminals (they even made a movie about it - XXX) Son316east: they were already planning on it on the east coast Son316east: all they needed was a valid excuse Son316east: now they have it Son316east: but the outcome?...1984 Son316east: that's why they set me up Son316east: claiming i was a spy when anybody w/ any logic can clearly see it was impossible for me to be a spy Son316east: so they could increase their spying technology Son316east: and funding ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32587-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 06 20:43:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79020 invoked by uid 1151); 6 Oct 2002 20:43:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79009 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2002 20:43:53 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: "Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org" Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 15:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! Posted from MTN Raves Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/26/ew.hot.eminem/index.html Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com -----Original Message----- From: wallace winfrey [mailto:wally@booyaka.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:17 PM To: mtn-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mtn-raves] Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! and it's about damn time someone pointed this out! http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/26/ew.hot.eminem/index.html techno is dead, long live techno! w --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32588-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 00:39:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37418 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 00:39:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37408 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 00:39:29 -0000 From: "Raymond Luna" To: "Steven Pucci" , Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:39:35 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! Whatever, just because everything doesn't sound like prodigy anymore...... All music is electronic now! Even eminem that states that it's dead, his songs are full of electrinic infuences! ignorance is bliss! -----Original Message----- From: Steven Pucci [mailto:protocolbeats@softhome.net] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:44 PM To: Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org Subject: [mw] Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! Posted from MTN Raves Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/26/ew.hot.eminem/index.html Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com -----Original Message----- From: wallace winfrey [mailto:wally@booyaka.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:17 PM To: mtn-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mtn-raves] Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! and it's about damn time someone pointed this out! http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/26/ew.hot.eminem/index.html techno is dead, long live techno! w --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32589-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 01:44:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48695 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 01:44:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48681 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 01:44:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: Tony Sebion cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E08@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> Message-ID: <20021006184253.F48290-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Tony Sebion wrote: >It.didn't.take.20.years.for.the.'real.thing'.to.show.up.in.them > >If.you.need.an.example.of.what.my.pee.does.to.someone.i'm.exposed.to.it. >every.day. thanks.for.the.clarification,big.baby. chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32590-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 04:17:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79070 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 04:17:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79052 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 04:17:11 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 23:17:29 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E0C@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Thread-Index: AcJtowchhCtz7lobStWqGBsOs0FcTgAFTAPw From: "Tony Sebion" To: "spad chonholz" Cc: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... Its just hard to describe how it feels, one really has to have the experience to really understand it. =20 Can you know the mighty ocean? Can you lasso a star from the sky? Can you say to a rainbow 'Hey, stop being a rainbow for a second'?=20 Such is tony's pee, -t Ps - I liked the periods, I had to try it for myself! -----Original Message----- From: spad chonholz [mailto:chad@hyperreal.org]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: RE: [mw] Stewart's resignation from the NYSE Board will delay cancer cure... On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Tony Sebion wrote: >It.didn't.take.20.years.for.the.'real.thing'.to.show.up.in.them > >If.you.need.an.example.of.what.my.pee.does.to.someone.i'm.exposed.to.it >. >every.day. thanks.for.the.clarification,big.baby. chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32591-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 05:18:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93369 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 05:18:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93347 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 05:18:29 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <872AA17DE0D624D4EA24B3417000183B@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 01:16:56 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] re: another conversation with stevie... Son316east: do u still have NSA ties? DT2: not any longer DT2: all my friends are out Son316east: they need to peg jinx DT2: one old friend from high school is in the CIA I think though Son316east: do u know how i can contact him? Son316east: trout is CIA, but i think he was decieved by jinx Son316east: trout had been kinda shady DT2: nope lost touch with him 3 years ago DT2: he did an internship and then went back in FT last year Son316east: they become ghosts DT2: true DT2: something I would kinda like to do Son316east: they are too biased Son316east: the CIA loves using convicts Son316east: because they know they will do just about anything for money Son316east: and they have break in and theft skills already Son316east: and of course some convicts have murder skills Son316east: they're sick bastards DT2: true Son316east: it's all forbidden knowledges Son316east: they have no morals, that's why they go by the brotherhood of the snake, and they were founded by the skull and bones DT2: it is very easy to find out if you have the right connection or if you are an intellectual man like we are Son316east: very easy to find what out? Son316east: i just need them to get jinx off my back Son316east: or whoever it is that's messing w/ me down here Son316east: they contact people that i know and pay them off to tell lies about me Son316east: these bastards first tried setting me up as a dope dealer w/ jinx Son316east: then they tried setting me up as an opium dealer w/ favor Son316east: every time i left my house: to work, to go to the library, to go to the grocery store, they start rumors i'm out dealing drugs Son316east: they're nothing but a bunch of racists who believes in stereotypes Son316east: and they tried convincing layla to accuse me of rape Son316east: i think it's gerrad martin and jinx kahlil g robinson behind all this Son316east: they need to eliminate those bastards Son316east: listen... i don't have time for their distractions, this is what i am really concerned about... Son316east: everything is messed up right now Son316east: bush is way too caught up in starting another war w/ iraq Son316east: when this country can't afford it, the economy is at an all time low they should fund the natural disasters on the west and the south first, then they need to deal with the labor problems on the west (because it's messing up global trade) and keeping union workers unemployed, they need to create new jobs, and provide better compensation and benefits for workers, they need to stop picking on the meek/ the minorities by stereotyping them Son316east: unemployment is at 10million Son316east: farmers suffering from drought Son316east: AAA ripped me off today Son316east: they charged me $72!! DT2: we were in a huge drought Son316east: when they were like $45 DJTHRILLA2: for what? Son316east: but they hit me w/ some ludicrous ERD fee Son316east: and it ended up to be $72 Son316east: talk about taking advantage of the meek! Son316east: and i had just spent my last dollars on gas and oil Son316east: i had to use my mom's credit card number Son316east: these bastards don't care about the meek Son316east: they spy on me to mock me Son316east: as if intentionally oppressing me isn't bad enough Son316east: i curse them to hell Son316east: these god damn bastards are digging for anything now Son316east: i got bitched out by my roommates for leaving lights on and dirty dishes when i know i have been careful w/ that in the past Son316east: i mean these bastards have resorted to lieing to accuse me of anything Son316east: i'll say Son316east: but i think some one had called them to turn against me Son316east: because when i first met them, they were nice Son316east: and then i found in the mail, the one roommate, the one that is the meanest now got a check from virginia Son316east: i'm pretty sure she's being paid off by the CIA to falsely accuse me of just anything Son316east: because i know i have turned the lights off before Son316east: and i know i am real clean Son316east: but these are the issues they yell at me about Son316east: and when i'm on-line (usually checking mail, reading e-mail, and talking w/ people on AIM) they falsely accuse me of being a porn geek Son316east: these are nothing but lieing cheating manipulative bastards Care2 make the world greener! 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Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32592-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 06:52:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10432 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 06:52:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10410 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 06:52:50 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 02:51:19 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] four corners... http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/bayanaca.html Care2 make the world greener! 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Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32593-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 07:01:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14889 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 07:01:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14872 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 07:01:38 -0000 Message-Id: <003501c26dcf$180a6ef0$6501a8c0@slmboy> From: "Matt Murphy" To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 01:59:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Entertainment Weekly Says Electronic Music Is Dead! > Whatever, just because everything doesn't sound like prodigy anymore...... God I wish it all sounded like Prodigy again... =] Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32594-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 08:35:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34272 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 08:35:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34251 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 08:35:21 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <4B93F2B7E51166C458AC50FA291B6311@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 04:33:48 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] biblical prophecy... Son316east: there are 2 realities going on as we speak Vozen: please proceed Son316east: the tribal/scene way Son316east: and the conservative/working class/white man way Son316east: you feel it in yourself Vozen: oh yea i know what your talking about Son316east: when you are at home, watching the propaganda they feed you on tv, you're in boring/square-boy/white-world Son316east: when you go out, go to parties, start exhuding your inner spirit, that's the other you - the real you Son316east: the first is the matrix Son316east: the second is your re-birth Son316east: the real you trying to come out Son316east: you're eventually supposed to love what you do and it will be your job Vozen: the kid in side Son316east: yes kind of like that Vozen: well i love dj Son316east: then so be it Son316east: i love layla Son316east: layla is my heaven Vozen: i know ... but youll find some one else Son316east: but she was my soul mate Vozen: how did you know? Son316east: i can feel it Son316east: jinx destroyed it though Son316east: he was an anti-christ Son316east: no, he manipulates her mind Son316east: but he is deceptive, manipulative, and malicious, he is pure evil Vozen: how does jinx do it? Son316east: mk ultra Vozen: control people with what? Vozen: mind control? Son316east: drugs Vozen: yea ... but he'll pay for it in the end Vozen: pluse im shure some one will snuff him soon Son316east: not if he was decieved himself Son316east: the question remains who was the one who decieved jinx? Son316east: but it must come to pass Son316east: all those involved in bringing me down must be cursed with a curse Son316east: cursed by the hand of God Son316east: i am a test of faith Son316east: the final test of faith Vozen: i dont think god does the cursing thing any more Vozen: im pretty sure he is a god of forgiveness Vozen: what test? Son316east: the ones who mock the holy ghost can not be forgiven not in this life or the other Son316east: as it is written Vozen: yea so why do you want to curse them if thay already have thiers coming Son316east: it is what God wanted me to do Vozen: man its cold outside... he wanted you to do what? kill people? Son316east: no Son316east: everything is by the word of God Vozen: thats what most people say God told them to do. but im sure youre not one of them. Son316east: everything Vozen: i see.. Son316east: yes i am Vozen: oh yea you have to kill the Anti-crist Vozen: i forgot Son316east: 1000 years the anti-christ is locked up Son316east: the beast has his head cut off, but it does not say that i will kill the anti-christ, blasphemer... casear was killed by brutus Vozen: are you jewish... Son316east: i am related to shem Son316east: who was related to noah Son316east: who was related to adam Son316east: i was also in a jewish fraternity for four years...zeta beta tau Son316east: and am very familiar with the bible code Vozen: lol.. well i went to a barmitfa but i dont think it makes me jewish ....... im related to willum wallace Son316east: braveheart? Vozen: yea, cool isnt it? Son316east: mel gibson is doing another christ movie Son316east: i give him props Son316east: i am proud of him Son316east: layla should have known it was the whores of babylon that would spread blasphemous rumors to start wars Son316east: girls have to be very careful these days Son316east: to avoid fulfilling that part of prophecy Son316east: and the judges must be very warey of this Son316east: that girls that are willing to have sex for money are easily paid to lie Son316east: same with drug dealers Son316east: anybody that will do anything evil for money like deal drugs Son316east: loses credibility Vozen: yea, i never date a whore but i knew a few drug dealers Son316east: but according to the book of revelations it would be the whores Son316east: that start the rumors Son316east: to start the wars Vozen: true, thats why i dont go to strip clubs Son316east: and the women should recognize this Son316east: and catch themselves Son316east: strip clubs aren't whores Son316east: they just dance bare Son316east: whores are whores Son316east: strippers are strippers Vozen: i dont know, i bet a few would go home with a yack if the money was right Vozen: besides what dose it matter if i get off on a girl with my pants on or off i dont see a difference. Son316east: these are very bad times when you say such things Son316east: a yack?...that is beastiality Son316east: you are sick Vozen: i just saying i dont see the diffrance between a lapdance and a hand job.............. i didnt say i wanted the yack Vozen: you just got that? Vozen: man talk about slow on the uptake Son316east: i am quicker than you think...surely i come quickly... Vozen: i hope so Son316east: i don't have time for this Vozen: come one im just joking with you Son316east: btw, i know you bastards are trying to set me up to appear gay Son316east: and it shall come to pass, the ones who set me up to be gay, they shall become gay Son316east: i don't think these people recall Revelations Son316east: the entire Book of Revelations is about cursing evil people Vozen: look i dont care if you like potted plants.... im sure most havnt read it, but i took it as the judge day Son316east: the greatest evil the CIA commited was not warning the people they paid off to spread lies about me that the false accusors are cursed with a curse according to Malachi Son316east: these are the judgement days Son316east: and i am judging Vozen: i would agree if i had the slightest clue of what you're talking about. you you're the judge? Son316east: it is as it is written...final judgement befalls the seven churches of asia minor... and since i am related to adam, i am related to the first...and i could very well be the last (the alpha and the omega) and if i pass on my seed, it means the end times would be delayed for another generation or as long as my seed is passed... Vozen: well son its been nice talking to you but i got to go. Son316east: so be it Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32595-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 08:47:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36525 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 08:47:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36502 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 08:47:02 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <6B28191F1D070B54CA64D3DC14E3D8D3@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 04:45:24 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] book of daniel... "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-21 If the Lord leads you to contribute to Prophecy Update and support this ministry. Please use PayPal, the most secure on-line way of making a voluntary donation and may God Bless You Richly for it. An introduction to Daniel by: Ray C. Stedman Almost everyone looks at the book of Daniel with a sense of wonder and anticipation, because this is usually regarded as a prophetic book foretelling the future. This is true. The book of Daniel, together with the book of Revelation, marvelously unfolds future events as God has ordained them in the program of history. By no means has this book yet been fulfilled, neither has the book of Revelation. These two books, one from the Old and one from the New Testament, remarkably complement each other in their symmetry and harmony. The book of Revelation explains the book of Daniel. The book of Daniel lays the basis for the book of Revelation. If you would like to know God's program for the future, it is essential that you understand this book of Daniel. But knowledge of the future can be a very dangerous thing. Imagine what would happen if any or all of us possessed the ability to know what is going to happen in the days ahead. Think what an advantage that would give us in the stock market, in the buying of insurance, and in other practical matters of life. By and large, God does not unfold the future to us---certainly not in detail and certainly not any individual's future. But what he does show us in the prophetic scriptures is the general trend of events and where it will all end. Anyone who investigates this area thoughtfully, carefully, and scripturally will discover significant and helpful things about what is happening in our world today. Everything that is happening is working out God's purposes on earth. These will all end exactly as God has foretold. We can understand what is happening today if we know what the prophetic program is. God has taken two precautions in this matter of unveiling the future. First, he has clothed these prophetic passages in symbolic language. He has given them to us in figurative form. That is why in these prophetic books unusual things appear, strange beasts with many different heads and horns sticking out here and there, and images of all kinds, and other indescribable visions. You have the some thing in the Book of Revelation---bizarre beasts with strange combinations of characteristics. These have always puzzled people. You can't just sit down with the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation and read them through and understand them as you would a novel. You have to study them, taking the whole of the Bible to interpret the symbols in the books of Daniel and Revelation. This is one of the locks that God has provided to keep curious minds from getting into these books without an adequate background in scripture. You cannot understand what is going on in them without first knowing a great deal of the rest of the Bible. These symbolic things are signs erected by God, and signs are given to us so that we may understand facts that are otherwise hidden. God's program for the future is hidden from us until we spend time understanding the signs, and these books are full of signs. A second precaution God has taken in Daniel, and even more especially in the book of Revelation, is that he doesn't introduce the prophetic section first, but brings us through six chapters into an understanding of the moral character he requires of the reader before the prophetic program can begin to make sense. In other words, you can't understand the last section of Daniel unless you have lived through and understood what is involved in the first six chapters. There is no way to understand what the prophetic program means unless you first grasp the moral lessons of the first part of the book. There is no way to cheat on this. You can't just read it through, and then turn to the prophetic program and hope to understand. You will find that you get nothing out of it. You really have to carefully analyze these initial chapters, think them through, begin to walk accordingly, and experience them, before the prophetic program comes to life. That is the glory of God's book. You can't understand it with just the intellect. You can sit down with the prophetic outlines of Daniel and of Revelation, draw charts, spend your time explaining to people what all these things mean and how God's program is going to work out, and analyze it down to a gnat's eyebrow---but unless you have incorporated these lessons of the first part of the book into your own life, you will discover nothing there to enrich your life. The Lord Jesus himself points this out during the Olivet Discourse when his disciples asked him to name the sign of his coming and what the symbol of his return to earth would be. Jesus said, "So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place then...let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains..." (Matt. 24:15, 16) "Get out of the city of Jerusalem, because things will happen there that will tremendously affect the people living in that area. Then is the time to flee the city, for the great tribulation will be upon you." When he said, "When you see the desolating sacrilege standing in the holy place," he added in parentheses these words, "let the reader understand." That is, don't read through Daniel superficially. Think it through. Give yourself to thought on this. You have to understand what he is talking about before you will be able to recognize the desolating sacrilege, or abomination of desolation, when it comes. This is why the Lord went on to say that the world in its superficial approach to truth will not understand when it cries, "Peace, peace, peace," for there will be no peace; sudden destruction will come upon them and they will be swept away just as the people of Noah's day were swept away when the flood came. Now all of this is a warning to take the book of Daniel seriously and to endeavor to understand the structure of this book as we delve into it. This book divides very simply into two sections, as I have already suggested. The first six chapters are a history of the prophet Daniel himself and his friends in the land of Babylon---men of faith in a hostile world. Let me tell you that there is no section of scripture more helpful to someone who is trying to live as a Christian in difficult surroundings, than these first six chapters of Daniel. If you are working in a company surrounded by a godless crowd who are taking the name of God in vain every moment, who agree with the ideas and attitudes of the world and its ways, and who make fun of the things of God, showing little interest in what God says to mankind, then I suggest that you read carefully the book of Daniel. The first six chapters are for you if you are a teenager going to school where you are surrounded constantly by those who seem to have no interest in what God is like, or in the things of God. Daniel and his friends were themselves teenagers when they were first taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar and carried off to the land of Babylon. As they began their career of faith, they did so with a total lack of understanding of life and with all the insecurity of a teenager in a hostile environment. The book records in these first six chapters the pressure they underwent as they stood for their faith in the midst of these difficult surroundings. In chapter 1 the young men are confronted with the necessity of changing their diet. Ordinarily, there would be nothing particularly significant in that. Many of us could stand that, perhaps frequently. But these young men already have been told by God what they are not to eat, and the very things that they were told not to eat are the things that are required eating for them as prisoners in the palace of the king of Babylon. What are they to do? This king is the most powerful tyrant who shall ever have lived on earth. The Bible itself records that there was no king that had ever lived before Nebuchadnezzar or would ever live after him who was equal to him in authority. There were no restraints whatsoever upon what he desired to do. His word was absolute law. He could take any man's life at any time. Later on in his reign, he took the lives of the sons of the king of Judah as their father watched and then had the father's eyes put out. Another man was burned to death over a slow fire. This king was an expert in torture. So these young teenagers facing this test know that they have to either comply with the king's demands or forfeit their lives. What can they do? They feel all the pressure and they hear all the familiar arguments that any person hears today to try to get them to give up acting on the basis of faith. They surely hear the argument, in whatever form it took in those days, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." "Everybody else is doing this; what difference does it make what you eat? So what if you have a ham sandwich with these Babylonians? What's the difference?" After all, they are prisoners in a country far away from home. Their own country has been laid waste. Who will know, or care, what they do? They feel that pressure. But these young men stand fast and God honors them. God gives them the grace to stand despite that pressure, and as a result they are exalted and given positions of authority and responsibility in that kingdom. This story of repeated pressure goes right on through this book. In chapter 2 you see part of the reason for this kind of testing for these particular young men. It comes out more clearly here, in the story of the great dream vision of King Nebuchadnezzar. He dreams one night of a great image of a man with a strange body. He had a head of gold, shoulders of silver, mid-section of brass, legs of iron, and feet of a clay and iron mixture. But he forgets his dream. He calls in the wise men and asks them to tell him not only the interpretation, but the dream as well. (I've often wondered if this wasn't the beginning of that popular song, "You tell me your dream and I'll tell you mine.") The astrologers and the soothsayers and the sorcerers of Babylon are totally unable to come up with anything. Obviously, if the king can't tell them the dream, then they can't dream up an interpretation. Thus their lives are forfeit. Daniel is placed in the middle of this situation. Again God's man is pressured and threatened with death if he does not conform. Again God's man comes through, as he always does when he is willing to stand and obey God despite the pressures. God overrules in the affairs of men. Life is never determined by mere superficial pressures. The outcome that seems logically inevitable as you face a situation is not necessarily the outcome that will happen if you are trusting in the invisible God who rules the affairs of men. And that is the great lesson of this book all the way through. You find it beautifully expressed by Daniel in his prayer to God in chapter 2: Blessed by the name of God for ever and ever, to whom belongs wisdom and might. He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding; he reveals deep and mysterious things; he knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with him. (2:20-22) If you are in touch with a god like that, you don't need to worry what the crowd is doing. For that same God is able to carry you through and to work the situation out no matter how impossible it looks. That is exactly the story of Daniel, repeated five different times through these first six chapters. And God gives to Daniel and his friends the privilege of obliging the most powerful man on earth to recognize the overall government of God. Do you know that this is exactly the position every believer is placed in today? The world lives with the idea that there is no God, or that if he does exist he has no real power. He doesn't do anything. He doesn't change history. He doesn't affect human lives. He doesn't enter into situations and make any difference. He is a great old man in the sky, off there somewhere, who doesn't really affect anything that happens down here. That is the world's philosophy. But every believer is put into a position in which if they walk faithfully, if they obey what God says despite the pressures that are put upon them, they are given the privilege of opening the eyes of men to the fact that God exists, that he is not dead, that he is at work in the affairs of men, and that he is a power to be reckoned with. In chapter 3 you have the story of the fiery furnace. The young men are commanded to bow down before the image which Nebuchadnezzar erected, pridefully thinking of the image in his dream. Because he was told that he represented the head of gold, that he was the great king of earth, in pride he lifted himself up and caused an image to be erected on the plain. It was a huge image, as tall as some of our rockets that we shoot into the sky, and the whole crowd is gathered on the plain, with these three young men among them. All are ordered to bow down and worship the image. In order to encourage them, a great furnace was built at the other end of the plain, and they are told that if they don't bow down, that is where they will end. Now that is a lot of pressure for young people to bear, and they have some additional inducements as well. There is a band---and what a band! The instruments are given to us here and we don't even recognize the names of all of them. When the band plays--- the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every other kind of instruments---everybody falls down and worships. All except the three young men. When they are brought before Nebuchadnezzar, he orders them to fall down. Then they say these wonderful words, "O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter." (3:16) They are not being impertinent. They mean that they do not need to take any time to think over their answer. "We don't need to take any counsel. We know what to say." "If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace; and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king. But if not..." (3:1) Those are words of faith: "But if not." "Our God is able to, but we don't know the mind of God. His thoughts are greater than our thoughts. His ways are different than ours. It may be that he won't do it. But even if he doesn't," "...be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods nor worship the golden image which you have set up." (3:17-18) Now these are young men who have learned that there are things more important than life. It is better to be dead and obedient to God than alive and disobedient to him. It is far more profitable to the individual concerned to walk with God at the cost of life itself than to be disobedient to what God has said. God will never be in any man's debt, therefore he greatly honors these young men. As a result, they come out of the furnace without even the smell of fire upon them. You know the record. What an amazing story that is! Then in chapter 4 you have the conversion of Nebuchadnezzar. Did you know that this whole chapter is the testimony of the greatest king that ever lived, the greatest tyrant that ever ruled? It is the story of how God broke the pride of his heart, humiliated him, humbled him, allowed him to exercise his pride until it resulted in what always results when men live in pride---madness. He went out and ate grass in the field for seven years. His throne was preserved, but he acted like an animal. This is what always happens to man when he chooses to walk out of fellowship with the living God. He becomes animal-like, beastly, brutish. King Nebuchadnezzar became like an animal. Then the king tells how his reason was restored to him by the grace of God, and his closing word in this chapter is a great testimony of his faith, of how God humbled him and brought him back: Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven; for all his works are right and his ways re just; and those who walk in pride he is able to abase. (4:37) Who brought him to this? Humanly speaking, it was Daniel and his friends; four young men were used of God to win the heart of the greatest king of the greatest empire the world has yet seen. Now look at chapter 5. Here is the story of the handwriting on the wall, the familiar story of King Belshazzar. Note the luxury and licentiousness and the lust of that kingdom---a degenerating, deteriorating kingdom---yet in the midst of it Daniel, having lived through three empires, is still prime minister. God uses him to interpret this strange figure of the hand that appears and writes upon the wall: the judgment of God upon that licentious Icing. This bears out the thesis of this book---that God is at work in the affairs of men, and any man who sees beyond the things that are seen to the things that are unseen, and acts accordingly, will find that God is with him, supporting him and strengthening him all along the way, bringing him out to the praise of his glory. Chapter 6 tells of the lions' den and it is the same story told in still another way. Darius throws Daniel into the lions' den, but God sent his angel to shut the lions' mouths. Daniel is brought out again, delivered by the hand of God. Chapter 7 begins the prophetic section, starting with the vision of the four beasts. It is interesting that these four beasts cover the same period of time as the four divisions of the image that Nebuchadnezzar had seen in chapter 2. That image had a head of gold, symbolizing the Babylonian kingdom; shoulders of silver, for Media- Persia; the trunk of brass symbolizing the Grecian empire, and then the two legs of iron representing the two divisions of the Roman Empire; and terminating at last in a broken kingdom, characterized by feet of mingled iron and clay. This great prophetic passage outlines history from Daniel's day clear past our own day, to the end of time and the return of Jesus Christ. For as the prophet watches, he sees a stone cut out without a hand strike the image on its feet, utterly demolishing it, and then grow to be a great mountain to fill the earth. Clearly this pictures the kingdom of God and the return of Jesus Christ. In chapter 7, then, the four beasts represent the same kingdoms, but from God's point of view. They are nothing but beasts growling and fighting and quarreling with each other. I think Dr. Scoffield points out that all the symbols of modern nations are representations of birds or of beasts of prey. Our own nation is symbolized by an eagle, a bird of prey. The British Empire is a lion. Russia is a bear. The prophet sees these nations struggling together culminating in the powerful reign of a single individual over the whole of this Western world. Then in chapter 8 you see the movement of Western history. The ram and the he-goat come together, and this is a picture, as we are told later in chapter 11, of the conquest by Alexander the Great and the rise of the kingdom of the Seleucids in Syria as opposed to the Ptolemies in Egypt. These two families occupied the center of history for centuries after that---the struggle between Syria and Egypt, with little Israel caught in the middle. The battle rages back and forth, and today Israel is the most fought---over country in all of history. More battles have occurred in the land of Israel than in any other spot on the face of the earth, and it is in that very same area where the last great battle---the battle of Armageddon---is yet to be fought. In the midst of this, in chapter 9, is Daniel's wonderful prayer as he pours his heart out to God. The answer to his prayer, in the last section of the chapter, is one of the most remarkable prophecies in all the Bible: the prophecy of the seventy weeks. This is the timetable of prophecy concerning the nation Israel. It gives us the principle that is called "the great parenthesis"---God has interrupted his program for Israel and has inserted between the first coming and the second coming of the Lord Jesus the present age in which we live. This indeterminate period, which has now spanned more than nineteen hundred years, comes between the sixty-ninth week of years and the seventieth of the prophecy. The seventieth week, a week of seven years, is yet to be fulfilled for Israel. As you read of this you will see that this is what the book of Revelation and other prophetic passages call "the great tribulation," the time of Jacob's trouble. It lies ahead. It has been broken off from the other sixty-nine and is yet to be fulfilled. Then chapter 10 presents the things unseen which are behind the things that are seen. This is another great revelation of God's sovereign government in the affairs of men and is the explanation for the events of history. What causes the things that happen today? Well, there are unseen forces at work, and these forces are here clearly revealed to Daniel. Chapter 11 is one of the most remarkable chapters in the Bible in that it records prophecy that, for the most part, has been fulfilled in detail. It foretells the struggle between the king of Syria and the king of Egypt which took place after Daniel's day. It is prophetically and hlstorically fulfilled. These historic events are described in great detail and cover two or three hundred years of history. You can see that the prophecies here have been worked out exactly in the pattern of history. Among other outstanding individuals, Cleopatra appears in this chapter, prophetically foretold. When you come to the thirty-sixth verse of the eleventh chapter, a noteworthy break occurs. It is introduced by the previous verse, in which the angel says to Daniel: "...and some of those who are wise shall fall, to refine and to cleanse them and to make them white, until the time of the end, for it is yet for the time appointed." (11:35) Here begins a passage that deals with that seventieth week of Daniel that is yet to be fulfilled---the time of the end, the last days, the ultimate arrangement of earth's kingdoms just before the return of Jesus Christ. This remarkable passage predicts an invasion of Palestine and a counter---invasion from Egypt in the south, and then the meeting of two great armies in the land of Israel and the ultimate destruction of those armies there on the mountains of Israel. This is also clearly described in the thirty-eighth and thirty-ninth chapters of Ezekiel and the second chapter of Joel. And you will find other prophetic references to this. The beginning of chapter 12 introduces the greatest event of history yet to be fulfilled: the coming again of Jesus Christ. It is not mentioned as such here, but this is what Daniel hears: "At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people [Israel]. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time; but at that time your people shall be delivered, every one whose name shall be found written in the book." (12:1) This is followed by a resurrection: "And of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." (12:2) And the final judgment of God: "And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever." (12:3) ...then Daniel is given a sign of when this will occur: "But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." (12:4) Many Bible scholars understand this to be an indication that as we near that time, transportation and knowledge will rapidly increase just as they have in our own time. One last thing about this final chapter is important. Daniel asks certain questions of the angel who has revealed this to him, and then he is given to understand two great principles that are at work in human life. You and I often hear people discussing what is happening in the world, with newspaper commentators and others constantly pouring into our ears reports of terrible things. People often say, "What is happening? Is the world getting worse and worse or is it getting better and better?" On one hand you will hear people describe things in such a way that you are bound to say, "Well, the world is getting worse and worse." Then someone replies, "No it isn't. Look at this, and this, and this. I believe the world is getting better. We are progressing." Now the book of Daniel makes it very clear that we never will understand God's word and God's work until we believe both of those principles. For in the tenth verse of chapter 12 Daniel is told: "Many shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be refined [good will get better]; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand [but evil will get worse]; but those who are wise shall understand." (12:10) Jesus said that the good seed has been sown, but the enemy has come and sown tares among the wheat. "Let both grow together," he says, "until the harvest." (Matt. 13:30) I think this is certainly true in history. Today evil is worse than it has ever been. It is more subtle, more devilish, more satanic, more difficult to detect than it ever has been before in human history. But good is better than it has ever been before. Good is more powerful. Its effect in human society in relationship to the evil around it is far greater than it ever has been before. These two principles are at work in human society, but neither shall overpower the other. Good is not going to become so triumphant that evil finally disappears, as once was thought at the turn of the century. Nor is evil going to be so powerful that good finally disappears. Both are going to come into a headlong conflict, and the Bible everywhere records that at that precise moment in history God shall again intervene in human affairs. Of the ultimate clash of these two great principles working in human society, Daniel is told: "Blessed is he who waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. But go your way until the end; and you shall rest, and shall stand in your allotted place at the end of the days." Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32596-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 13:11:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30165 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 13:11:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30149 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 13:11:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 08:11:52 -0500 From: Marie Martin In-reply-to: <001601c26ce6$3f20fe80$83d12e44@olathe01.ks.comcast.net> X-Sender: martinm@uwosh.edu To: spaceKC , "[MW-Raves]" Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021007081136.00ab9db0@uwosh.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii References: <004601c26cb1$4a2560d0$baf9a618@core> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... At 10:12 PM 10/5/2002 -0500, spaceKC wrote: >brilliant. I'll second that. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Josh [M] > To: [MW-Raves] > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:53 PM > Subject: [mw] Part 2 of the saga... > > > http://stevie.t.does.it.pornstarstyle.com/thismeanswar > > J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32597-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 14:27:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58601 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 14:27:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58590 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 14:27:03 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:04:09 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] uploads and upwards for those not registered yet, get to it now before the 25 days is up. make a difference. for real! https://register.votenet.com/votenet/ but in any case i was wondering also if any of you guys know where on the n= et someone can upload files upwards to 20mb+ a file, if only just one,(with= out using something like tripod, etc...) of any format, such as mp3, rm, ra= , ram, wav...you understand. i have been looking and i cant find a thing, not that i expected to.....lol thanks for any advice. peace d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32598-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 14:27:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58834 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 14:27:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58666 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 14:27:04 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:05:07 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: RE: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! damn..... too late... d >>> "Tony Sebion" 10/03/02 01:41PM >>> Why would someone publicly agree with stevie t - who would want to be on the CIA watch list that bad? -t -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:dooleyc@firstcharter.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! *claps hands to the shepherd* >>> "shepherd t" 10/02/02 11:13AM >>> I also find it ironic that most of what he said pretty much summed up what i had been posting on here for the past four years. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =20 >George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the american=20 >people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do >not support --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32599-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:08:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7828 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:08:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7818 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:08:46 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.215.48.216] From: "dan sharp" To: dooleyc@firstcharter.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:08:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2002 19:08:51.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8F2C650:01C26E34] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards I assume you mean upload so that someone else can have access to it?? The most obvious means are usually the most over-looked.. Why don't you host the file, and get some peer-2-peer software that is worth a shit?? Just makes sense.. (0_o) >From: "Chris Dooley" >To: >Subject: [mw] uploads and upwards >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:04:09 -0400 > >for those not registered yet, get to it now before the 25 days is up. >make a difference. for real! > >https://register.votenet.com/votenet/ > >but in any case i was wondering also if any of you guys know where on the >net someone can upload files upwards to 20mb+ a file, if only just >one,(without using something like tripod, etc...) of any format, such as >mp3, rm, ra, ram, wav...you understand. > >i have been looking and i cant find a thing, not that i expected to.....lol > >thanks for any advice. > >peace > >d > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32600-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:12:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10097 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:12:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10058 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:12:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c26e35$822c0440$49dba718@bill> From: "William Bunyan" To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:12:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "dan sharp" To: ; Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards > I assume you mean upload so that someone else can have access to it?? = The=20 > most obvious means are usually the most over-looked.. Why don't you = host the=20 > file, and get some peer-2-peer software that is worth a shit?? >=20 >=20 > Just makes sense.. >=20 > (0_o) >=20 word up. the direct connect hub software is easy to set up. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32601-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:14:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11908 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:14:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11898 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:14:32 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:14:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E13@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] uploads and upwards thread-index: AcJuNaCdmBQifbQeTpmQN4TsmLA9zwAABseg From: "Tony Sebion" To: "William Bunyan" , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] uploads and upwards I'm trying to figure out how to write an email to an internet mailing list, can someone help me? Thanks, -t --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32602-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:19:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15752 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:19:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15742 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:19:04 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.215.48.216] From: "dan sharp" To: Tony@sebion.com, drthundr@milwpc.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:19:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2002 19:19:10.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[69E2DD40:01C26E36] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] uploads and upwards I always wanted this chance... What list??? whew... I didn't fuck it up... (0_o) >From: "Tony Sebion" > >I'm trying to figure out how to write an email to an internet mailing >list, can someone help me? > >Thanks, >-t > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32603-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:24:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18596 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:24:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18585 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:24:54 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:24:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E14@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] uploads and upwards thread-index: AcJuNpFX69h+iAcYTg6Imd4LwclaEwAADRjQ From: "Tony Sebion" To: "dan sharp" , , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] uploads and upwards Was that supposed to help me with my problem or something? It's a mailing list for ravers, I think, I'm not sure. I think the feds and someone organization named 'jinx' watches it too. It sounds very "get smart". I will talk on my shoe phone now. I would like to make a posting now, so if there's a way to do that, I will be signing up to do that. -t Ps - who owns the hotmail? I am interested in your world's largest email service. I will make a posting to the world's largest posting service also when I get instructions to post the internet mailing list messages. -----Original Message----- From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@hotmail.com]=20 Subject: RE: [mw] uploads and upwards I always wanted this chance... What list??? whew... I didn't fuck it up... (0_o) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.=20 http://www.hotmail.com >From: "Tony Sebion" > >I'm trying to figure out how to write an email to an internet mailing=20 >list, can someone help me? > >Thanks, >-t --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32604-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:25:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19021 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:25:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19009 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:25:51 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:22:35 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards yes i would do that but this is a little more complicated, but an avenue of= second choice.... by the way, what the hell is wrong with winmx? since the new release come out it made the old one never connect. so i upgraded. i havent been able to latch on and download one single file without it eith= er failing or just not downloading the file at all even though it is availa= ble? it doesnt even go into a que? chris >>> "dan sharp" 10/07/02 03:08PM >>> I assume you mean upload so that someone else can have access to it?? The= most obvious means are usually the most over-looked.. Why don't you host t= he=20 file, and get some peer-2-peer software that is worth a shit?? Just makes sense.. (0_o) >From: "Chris Dooley" >To: >Subject: [mw] uploads and upwards >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:04:09 -0400 > >for those not registered yet, get to it now before the 25 days is up. >make a difference. for real! > >https://register.votenet.com/votenet/=20 > >but in any case i was wondering also if any of you guys know where on the= >net someone can upload files upwards to 20mb+ a file, if only just=20 >one,(without using something like tripod, etc...) of any format, such as= >mp3, rm, ra, ram, wav...you understand. > >i have been looking and i cant find a thing, not that i expected to.....lol > >thanks for any advice. > >peace > >d > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=20 >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org=20 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32605-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:30:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21214 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:30:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21188 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:30:00 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.215.48.216] From: "dan sharp" To: dooleyc@firstcharter.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:30:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2002 19:30:05.0861 (UTC) FILETIME=[F098FD50:01C26E37] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards explain how it gets more complicated than that? Otherwise.. Put up an FTP server and serve it privately.. That way no one can see your 20+ megs of (porn??) that you want to dish out. of course, I know Tony would want to see... (0_o) >From: "Chris Dooley" >To: , >Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:22:35 -0400 > >yes i would do that but this is a little more complicated, but an avenue of >second choice.... >by the way, what the hell is wrong with winmx? >since the new release come out it made the old one never connect. >so i upgraded. >i havent been able to latch on and download one single file without it >either failing or just not downloading the file at all even though it is >available? >it doesnt even go into a que? > > >chris > > >>> "dan sharp" 10/07/02 03:08PM >>> >I assume you mean upload so that someone else can have access to it?? The >most obvious means are usually the most over-looked.. Why don't you host >the >file, and get some peer-2-peer software that is worth a shit?? > > > Just makes sense.. > >(0_o) > > > >From: "Chris Dooley" > >To: > >Subject: [mw] uploads and upwards > >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:04:09 -0400 > > > >for those not registered yet, get to it now before the 25 days is up. > >make a difference. for real! > > > >https://register.votenet.com/votenet/ > > > >but in any case i was wondering also if any of you guys know where on the > >net someone can upload files upwards to 20mb+ a file, if only just > >one,(without using something like tripod, etc...) of any format, such as > >mp3, rm, ra, ram, wav...you understand. > > > >i have been looking and i cant find a thing, not that i expected >to.....lol > > > >thanks for any advice. > > > >peace > > > >d > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32606-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:40:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27730 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:40:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27720 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:40:11 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:38:33 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: dooleyc@firstcharter.com,, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: RE: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! well, there were a couple hundred thousand on that list alone. see, not everyone in america is a war-monger! if anything, i would think the CIA would sooner have you on their watch list for associating with jinx and possibly funding terrorist with your piss pills. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Chris Dooley" Sent: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:05:07 -0400 To: , Subject: RE: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! damn..... too late... d >>> "Tony Sebion" 10/03/02 01:41PM >>> Why would someone publicly agree with stevie t - who would want to be on the CIA watch list that bad? -t -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:dooleyc@firstcharter.com] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! *claps hands to the shepherd* >>> "shepherd t" 10/02/02 11:13AM >>> I also find it ironic that most of what he said pretty much summed up what i had been posting on here for the past four years. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =A0 =A0 >George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the american >people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do >not support --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! 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Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32607-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:43:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29828 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:43:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29818 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:43:11 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:39:20 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards basically because first the computer has to be one all the time. you have to tell others first to download the "Ex" p2p software. then they have to search and go thru this channel. whereas with a simple link someone could download right away. i was actually looking at no cost solution, as i have in the past, though i= t is becoming harder to come by on the net, anywhere these dayz. it is 20 megs of delicious, scrumptous, salivating................. chris >>> "dan sharp" 10/07/02 03:30PM >>> explain how it gets more complicated than that? Otherwise.. Put up an FTP= server and serve it privately.. That way no one can see your 20+ megs of= (porn??) that you want to dish out. of course, I know Tony would want to see... (0_o) >From: "Chris Dooley" >To: , >Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:22:35 -0400 > >yes i would do that but this is a little more complicated, but an avenue o= f=20 >second choice.... >by the way, what the hell is wrong with winmx? >since the new release come out it made the old one never connect. >so i upgraded. >i havent been able to latch on and download one single file without it=20 >either failing or just not downloading the file at all even though it is= >available? >it doesnt even go into a que? > > >chris > > >>> "dan sharp" 10/07/02 03:08PM >>> >I assume you mean upload so that someone else can have access to it?? The= >most obvious means are usually the most over-looked.. Why don't you host= >the >file, and get some peer-2-peer software that is worth a shit?? > > > Just makes sense.. > >(0_o) > > > >From: "Chris Dooley" > >To: > >Subject: [mw] uploads and upwards > >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:04:09 -0400 > > > >for those not registered yet, get to it now before the 25 days is up. > >make a difference. for real! > > > >https://register.votenet.com/votenet/=20 > > > >but in any case i was wondering also if any of you guys know where on th= e=20 > >net someone can upload files upwards to 20mb+ a file, if only just > >one,(without using something like tripod, etc...) of any format, such as= > >mp3, rm, ra, ram, wav...you understand. > > > >i have been looking and i cant find a thing, not that i expected=20 >to.....lol > > > >thanks for any advice. > > > >peace > > > >d > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=20 > >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org=20 > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com=20 > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=20 >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org=20 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:=20 http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32608-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:45:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30957 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:45:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30947 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:45:17 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:41:51 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: ,, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: RE: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! i think i am lost with the piss pill thing. call me granny... chris >>> "shepherd t" 10/07/02 03:38PM >>> well, there were a couple hundred thousand on that list alone. see, not everyone in america is a war-monger! if anything, i would think the CIA would sooner have you on their watch list for associating with jinx and possibly funding terrorist with your piss pills. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Chris Dooley" Sent: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:05:07 -0400 To: , Subject: RE: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! damn..... too late... d >>> "Tony Sebion" 10/03/02 01:41PM >>> Why would someone publicly agree with stevie t - who would want to be on the CIA watch list that bad? -t -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:dooleyc@firstcharter.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [mw] Not in Our Name! *claps hands to the shepherd* >>> "shepherd t" 10/02/02 11:13AM >>> I also find it ironic that most of what he said pretty much summed up what i had been posting on here for the past four years. ---- Begin Original Message ---- Nightshade wrote- >(there is a growing movement that explicitly states that =20 >George W Bush is a warmonger who is out of touch with the american >people and it is our responsiblity to make it loud and clear that we do >not support --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=20 For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org=20 ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32609-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 07 19:48:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33338 invoked by uid 1151); 7 Oct 2002 19:48:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33328 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 19:48:55 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:49:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E15@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] uploads and upwards thread-index: AcJuOB8tdpHHWqZeQiqTVWxnaMerwgAAViSA From: "Tony Sebion" To: "dan sharp" , , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] uploads and upwards "we" already know the file he wants to send out. Jinx also has the information, and will use it in his next decoy al-qaida plot. -t Ps - you have the largest archive of n'sync pictures we have ever seen! -----Original Message----- From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@hotmail.com]=20 Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards explain how it gets more complicated than that? Otherwise.. Put up an FTP=20 server and serve it privately.. That way no one can see your 20+ megs of (porn??) that you want to dish out. of course, I know Tony would want to see... (0_o) >From: "Chris Dooley" >To: , >Subject: Re: [mw] uploads and upwards >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:22:35 -0400 > >yes i would do that but this is a little more complicated, but an=20 >avenue of >second choice.... >by the way, what the hell is wrong with winmx? >since the new release come out it made the old one never connect. >so i upgraded. >i havent been able to latch on and download one single file without it=20 >either failing or just not downloading the file at all even though it is=20 >available? >it doesnt even go into a que? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32610-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 00:36:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88198 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 00:36:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88188 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 00:36:41 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.255.37.178] From: "DJ Nightshade" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:36:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2002 00:36:50.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[CACF9F90:01C26E62] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] NRR > Non Violent Resistance <--// Sorry if some of you only care about what rave is going to get shut down this weekend //--> Here are two things that all of us can do to let it be known that we WILL NOT tolerate the Bush Administration's escalating military effort against Iraq. Sign a pledge supporting Peace for Iraq: http://www.peacepledge.org Sign a pledge of resistance stating that if the Bush Administration insists on their greedy oil-war, you will actively engage in acts of non-violent civil disobedience. http://www.paxchristiusa.org/peace_pledge.pdf LET YOUR SELVES BE HEARD !!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32611-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 06:02:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91992 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 06:02:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91970 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 06:02:14 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <660A98797D5D4A34A91C8ADBB14CF4A0@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 02:00:42 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: sasha_33@hotmail.com,pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Re: {pbcleBS} re: another conversation with stevie... shut up stupid, your opinion is meaningless... it had been apparent you weren't real from the get go...god damned poser sasha! ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "pangea ." Sent: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:13:15 -0400 To: undergroundt@care2.com, pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} re: another conversation with stevie... Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I hate you, I hate you, I hate you. Go fucking die! Thanks and have a great day ----Original Message Follows---- From: "shepherd t" To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: {pbcleBS} re: another conversation with stevie... Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 01:16:56 -0400 Son316east:=09 do u still have NSA ties? =A0DT2:=09 not any longer =A0DT2:=09 all my friends are out =A0Son316east:=09 they need to peg jinx =A0DT2:=09 one old friend from high school is in the CIA I think thoug= h =A0Son316east:=09 do u know how i can contact him? =A0Son316east:=09 trout is CIA, but i think he was decieved by jinx =A0Son316east:=09 trout had been kinda shady =A0DT2:=09 nope lost touch with him 3 years ago =A0DT2:=09 he did an internship and then went back in FT last year =A0Son316east:=09 they become ghosts =A0DT2:=09 true =A0DT2:=09 something I would kinda like to do =A0Son316east:=09 they are too biased =A0Son316east:=09 the CIA loves using convicts =A0Son316east:=09 because they know they will do just about anything for money =A0Son316east:=09 and they have break in and theft skills already =A0Son316east:=09 and of course some convicts have murder skills =A0Son316east:=09 they're sick bastards =A0DT2:=09 true =A0Son316east:=09 it's all forbidden knowledges =A0Son316east:=09 they have no morals, that's why they go by the brotherhood of the snake, and they were founded by the skull and bones =A0DT2:=09 it is very easy to find out if you have the right connectio= n or if you are an intellectual man like we are =A0Son316east:=09 very easy to find what out? =A0Son316east:=09 i just need them to get jinx off my back =A0Son316east:=09 or whoever it is that's messing w/ me down here =A0Son316east:=09 they contact people that i know and pay them off to tell lies about me =A0Son316east:=09 these bastards first tried setting me up as a dope dealer w/ jinx =A0Son316east:=09 then they tried setting me up as an opium dealer w/ favor =A0Son316east:=09 every time i left my house: to work, to go to the library, to go to the grocery store, they start rumors i'm out dealing drugs =A0Son316east:=09 they're nothing but a bunch of racists who believes in stereotypes =A0Son316east:=09 and they tried convincing layla to accuse me of rape= =A0Son316east:=09 i think it's gerrad martin and jinx kahlil g robinson behind all this =A0Son316east:=09 they need to eliminate those bastards =A0Son316east:=09 listen... i don't have time for their distractions, this is what i am really concerned about... =A0Son316east:=09 everything is messed up right now =A0Son316east:=09 bush is way too caught up in starting another war w/= iraq =A0Son316east:=09 when this country can't afford it, the economy is at= an all time low they should fund the natural disasters on the west and the south first, then they need to deal with the labor problems on the west (because it's messing up global trade) and keeping union workers unemployed, they need to create new jobs, and provide better compensation and benefits for workers, they need to stop picking on the meek/ the minorities by stereotyping them =A0Son316east:=09 unemployment is at 10million =A0Son316east:=09 farmers suffering from drought =A0Son316east:=09 AAA ripped me off today =A0Son316east:=09 they charged me $72!! =A0DT2:=09 we were in a huge drought =A0Son316east:=09 when they were like $45 =A0DJTHRILLA2:=09 for what? =A0Son316east:=09 but they hit me w/ some ludicrous ERD fee =A0Son316east:=09 and it ended up to be $72 =A0Son316east:=09 talk about taking advantage of the meek! =A0Son316east:=09 and i had just spent my last dollars on gas and oil =A0Son316east:=09 i had to use my mom's credit card number =A0Son316east:=09 these bastards don't care about the meek =A0Son316east:=09 they spy on me to mock me =A0Son316east:=09 as if intentionally oppressing me isn't bad enough =A0Son316east:=09 i curse them to hell =A0Son316east:=09 these god damn bastards are digging for anything now= =A0Son316east:=09 i got bitched out by my roommates for leaving lights= on and dirty dishes when i know i have been careful w/ that in the past =A0Son316east:=09 i mean these bastards have resorted to lieing to accuse me of anything =A0Son316east:=09 i'll say =A0Son316east:=09 but i think some one had called them to turn against= me =A0Son316east:=09 because when i first met them, they were nice =A0Son316east:=09 and then i found in the mail, the one roommate, the one that is the meanest now got a check from virginia =A0Son316east:=09 i'm pretty sure she's being paid off by the CIA to falsely accuse me of just anything =A0Son316east:=09 because i know i have turned the lights off before =A0Son316east:=09 and i know i am real clean =A0Son316east:=09 but these are the issues they yell at me about =A0Son316east:=09 and when i'm on-line (usually checking mail, reading= e-mail, and talking w/ people on AIM) they falsely accuse me of being a porn geek =A0Son316east:=09 these are nothing but lieing cheating manipulative bastards Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 ----- doses. -- "When written in Chinese, the word "crisis" is composed of two characters -- one represents danger, and the other represents opportunity." -- Saul David Alinsky _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ----- Son316east: trout had been kinda shady ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32612-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 07:04:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8949 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 07:04:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8938 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 07:04:20 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [128.164.71.185] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 02:04:28 -0500 From: "Nikolas R. Schiller" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2002 07:04:33.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[F478B170:01C26E98] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Important Internet Radio News http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=3Dinternetnews&StoryID=3D1545362 House Approves Web Radio Royalty Deal October 07, 2002 05:47 PM ET Email this article Printer friendly version Purchase for Reprint =A0 By Andy Sullivan=20 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Monday approved a royalty-payment deal between the music industry and small Internet broadcasters after a last-minute change won the support of musicians. By a voice vote, the House approved a deal that would allow smaller "Webcasters" to pay a percentage of revenues or expenses to the musicians and record labels whose songs they use, rather than a flat per-song rate se= t by the Library of Congress in June. Smaller Webcasters had protested that the flat rate of .07 cents per listener per song could drive many of them out of business, because their royalty bills would exceed revenues from advertising or other sources. After a week of round-the-clock negotiations, the two sides hammered out an agreement on Sunday. But musicians objected because it did not guarantee that they would be paid directly, and Michigan Democrat John Conyers urged his colleagues to reject the deal shortly before it was called up for debate. Judiciary Committee Chairman James Senenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican, changed the bill to guarantee direct payment, winning the praise of Democrats who had opposed the bill. "The chairman had a method to his ham-handedness," said California Democratic Rep. Howard Berman. Webcasters and the music industry must now take their deal to the Senate, where Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy offered his support. "Time is short in this congressional session, but I believe that final action on this solution is possible," the Vermont Democrat said in a statement.=20 Under the terms of the deal, small Webcasters would pay 8 percent of their revenues for broadcasts between 1998 and the end of 2002, increasing to 10 percent over the next two years, or 12 percent if the station's revenues exceeded $250,000.=20 Alternatively, Webcasters would pay 5 percent of their expenses for the 1998-2002 period and 7 percent over the next two years, if that amount was greater.=20 The deal only applies to Webcasters who will have taken in less than $1 million in total from 1998 until the end of this year. The revenue cap increases to $500,000 in 2003 and $1.25 million in 2004. Larger Webcasters, such as America Online and Clear Channel Communications were not included in the agreement and will pay the previously set rate starting on October 20. Trade groups for the recording industry and small Webcasters said they were pleased with the outcome. "We both want fans to have the best musical experience possible, and this legislation helps us move forward together toward that goal," said the Recording Industry Association of America and the Voice of the Webcasters i= n a joint statement.=20 A lobbyist for a musicians' union said the frantic, last-minute negotiation= s had paid off.=20 "It was really a win-win-win-win," said Ann Chaitovitz, national director o= f sound recordings for the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32613-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 08:16:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25586 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 08:16:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25566 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 08:16:43 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <9AC9336DD82783D4585F132FE8A84F5E@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 04:15:10 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] layla and the lord prophesized... Layla by Eric Clapton What'll you do when you get lonely And nobody's waiting by your side? You've been running and hiding much too long. You know it's just your foolish pride. Layla, you've got me on my knees. Layla, I'm begging, darling please. Layla, darling won't you ease my worried mind. I tried to give you consolation When your old man had let you down. Like a fool, I fell in love with you, Turned my whole world upside down. Chorus Let's make the best of the situation Before I finally go insane. Please don't say we'll never find a way And tell me all my love's in vain. Chorus Chorus AT THE TWO: In ancient Arabia, there lived a great Lord. His name was Lord Sayyid. He ruled over a tribe known as the Banu Amir. He was from a noble family. He was very rich. But glory and prestige are of no use to a childless person. Lord Sayyid wanted a legitimate heir to carry on his family’s name. This was one burning desire that troubled his mind and soul to the extent that he forgot everything else. In order to attain this desire, Lord Sayyid tried to please God. He prayed and fasted and gave alms in plenty. He did not lose faith and continued praying, fasting and giving alms. When he was about to admit defeat, God granted his wish and gave him a boy. This boy was a beautiful child, just like a freshly opened rose bud. He was like a diamond whose brilliance changes night into day. Lord Sayyid was very happy with the birth of his child and he opened the doors of his treasury and showered gold as though it were sand. He invited the whole tribe to share his joy. He hosted a feast in the honor of his child’s birth. This wondrous event was celebrated with much festivity throughout the land. The child was placed in the caring and tender hands of a nurse, who suckled him and saw to it that he grew big, strong and healthy. On the fifteenth day, his parents named him Kais. By the end of his seventh year, the first signs of approaching adulthood began to shine like a violent sheath on his tulip-red cheeks. Lord Sayyid was aware of the boy’s need of an education. So, he placed his son under the tutorship of a renowned scholar. A sage to whom all Arabs of noble descent entrusted their children so that they might acquire wisdom and the skills needed for desert life. Kais was diligent and enthusiastic. He was the best pupil his teacher had ever taught. He excelled in reading and writing. When he spoke, his tongue scattered pearls of wisdom. All the students who used to study with him were from noble families of different tribes. They also included a number of young girls. One day, a new girl joined the class. Kais and every other boy in the class was attracted by her dazzling beauty. The name of the girl was Layla from the Arabic layl which means night. FIRE BURNING BRIGHT: Kais fell in love with the new girl at first sight. In keeping with her name, her hair was indeed as dark as a night. Beneath the shadow of her hair, her face shone like a radiant beacon of beauty. Her eyes were dark, deep and lustrous, like the eyes of the gazelle and with one flutter of her eyelashes, she could bring the whole world under her spell. Her tiny mouth opened to say the sweetest things, and when others responded either with words or smiles, she would blush, bringing blood-red roses into bloom on her milky-white cheeks. The mere sight of this miracle of creation would have melted the coldest of hearts. Kais felt much more passionate about Layla than anyone else. Layla’s beauty had bewitched Kais. He was drowning in the sea of love before he even knew what love was. He had given his heart to her. Layla for her part fared no better. She had also fallen in love with him. A fire had lit both their hearts. For Kais, Layla was like the Sun, ascending into his sky with beauty and radiance unparalleled. When the school was closed, Kais roamed the alleyways and the passages between the market stalls, in the hope of catching a glimpse of Layla’s dimpled face. Kais and Layla were not aware of the fact that the whole world knew about their love for each other. To save themselves, and to protect their love, they tried to control their wild glances and seal their love-hungry lips. But, Kais could not resist his trips to Utopia. All he could do was wander around in a trance, extolling Layla’s beauty and praising her virtues to everyone he met. His strange behavior attracted people towards him. People laughed at him and called him ‘Madman’ or the ‘Majnun’. The situation became intolerable for Layla’s family. They stopped her from leaving her tent. Kais’ separation from Layla brought about his separation from the rest of those he loved. Kais wept openly, displaying his sorrow for the world to see. Layla wept in secret. He kept going to Layla’s tent, said a quiet prayer at the threshold and then would return. He was senseless to the world but he was a poet as well. The title ‘Majnun’ now became his. WITH LOVE COMETH PAIN: Layla’s tribe had set a camp in the mountains of Najd. Majnun went near her tent. He could see her sitting at its entrance. Tears filled their eyes as they spoke to each other with mute elegance, exchanging sighs carried by the breeze that acted as the messenger between them. The lovers were allowed only this briefest of encounter. Afraid that the guards would notice him, Majnun took to his heels and fled away. Lord Sayyid was worried about his son’s condition. The only thing he could do was to pray that Majnun would come to his senses and become Kais once more. His son’s condition did not improve. Majnun remained Majnun. Lord Sayyid knew that only if Majnun attained his hearts desire he would become Kais once more. So, he decided to ask for Layla’s hand on behalf of Majnun. Lord Sayyid made his offer to Layla’s father. But Layla’s father did not agree and said that he would not give his daughter’s hand to a madman. He also said that he would hear no more talk of love or marriage between them. Lord Sayyid had no other option but to withdraw his request. Lord Sayyid tried to take Majnun to Mecca. Majnun was too weak, so he was carried like a tiny child in a cradle. They reached Mecca and performed the rituals. However it was no good for Majnun. Lord Sayyid was demoralized, since all his efforts to cure his son failed. The pilgrimage to God’s own house had failed. CRIES OF THE BLEEDING HEART: The enormity of Majnun’s pain became unbearable. One fine morning, Majnun ripped aside the veil of love and gathered a few belongings and escaped once again into the deserts of Najd. He roamed around like a wounded animal. All he knew was that he had to be alone, no longer could he live in the world of men and survive. Layla was suffering from the pain of love as well. From dawn till dusk she sought her beloved Majnun in secret; then, at midnight, when the world was sleeping, she would call out to him with her sighs. Tears were never far away and if she laughed, it was only to hide her grief. On one side there was the ocean of her tears and on the other, the raging fire of her love. Beauty was not Layla’s only gift, for she too had a flair for the poetic art. She too composed verses in answer to Majnun’s verses of love. THEREAFTER Once Layla was in the garden with her friends. She heard a passerby sing While Layla’s garden blooms in spring, Majnun lies there, suffering. How can Layla smile and jest, while love puts Majnun to the test? On hearing this, Layla started crying. When her mother learnt about it, she also started crying. She could not bear to see her daughter in agony. Her mother was heartbroken and confused. Later in the day, Ibn Salam, a young man from the tribe known as Banu Asad saw Layla and he immediately decided that she would be his wife. He sent a mediator to Layla’s father with a proposal. In order to win Layla he was willing to shower them with gold. Her father accepted the proposal. But he wanted them to wait for some time, since Layla was very weak. So, Ibn Salam had no other option but to wait for Layla. for the rest... http://www.top-biography.com/9095-Love%20Stories/laylamajnun2.htm Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32614-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 08:48:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69693 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 08:48:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69683 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 08:48:38 -0000 Message-ID: <1688.207.67.91.234.1034066922.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 03:48:42 -0500 (CDT) From: To: , In-Reply-To: <9AC9336DD82783D4585F132FE8A84F5E@undergroundt.care2.com> References: <9AC9336DD82783D4585F132FE8A84F5E@undergroundt.care2.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] layla and the lord prophesized... Did you write that? Regardless, I thought it was a bit long and cliched in parts, would take some work to update (can you see Hollywood adapting it? They'd give Layla big blowjob-friendly lips and a boob job... men are such pigs eh?). JP > AT THE TWO: > > In ancient Arabia, there lived a great Lord. His name was Lord > Sayyid. He ruled over a tribe known as the Banu Amir. He was from a > noble family. He was very rich. But glory and prestige are of no use > to a childless person. Lord Sayyid wanted a legitimate heir to carry > on his family’s name. This was one burning desire that troubled > his mind and soul to the extent that he forgot everything else. > > In order to attain this desire, Lord Sayyid tried to please God. He > prayed and fasted and gave alms in plenty. He did not lose faith and > continued praying, fasting and giving alms. When he was about to > admit defeat, God granted his wish and gave him a boy. This boy was a > beautiful child, just like a freshly opened rose bud. He was like a > diamond whose brilliance changes night into day. Lord Sayyid was very > happy with the birth of his child and he opened the doors of his > treasury and showered gold as though it were sand. He invited the > whole tribe to share his joy. He hosted a feast in the honor of his > child’s birth. This wondrous event was celebrated with much > festivity throughout the land. > > The child was placed in the caring and tender hands of a nurse, who > suckled him and saw to it that he grew big, strong and healthy. On the > fifteenth day, his parents named him Kais. By the end of his > seventh year, the first signs of approaching adulthood began to shine > like a violent sheath on his tulip-red cheeks. > > Lord Sayyid was aware of the boy’s need of an education. So, he > placed his son under the tutorship of a renowned scholar. A sage to > whom all Arabs of noble descent entrusted their children so that they > might acquire wisdom and the skills needed for desert life. > > Kais was diligent and enthusiastic. He was the best pupil his teacher > had ever taught. He excelled in reading and writing. When he spoke, > his tongue scattered pearls of wisdom. All the students who used to > study with him were from noble families of different tribes. They also > included a number of young girls. One day, a new girl joined the > class. Kais and every other boy in the class was attracted by her > dazzling beauty. The name of the girl was Layla from the Arabic layl > which means night. > > FIRE BURNING BRIGHT: > > Kais fell in love with the new girl at first sight. In keeping with > her name, her hair was indeed as dark as a night. Beneath the shadow > of her hair, her face shone like a radiant beacon of beauty. Her eyes > were dark, deep and lustrous, like the eyes of the gazelle and with > one flutter of her eyelashes, she could bring the whole world under > her spell. Her tiny mouth opened to say the sweetest things, and when > others responded either with words or smiles, she would blush, > bringing blood-red roses into bloom on her milky-white cheeks. > > The mere sight of this miracle of creation would have melted the > coldest of hearts. Kais felt much more passionate about Layla than > anyone else. Layla’s beauty had bewitched Kais. He was drowning > in the sea of love before he even knew what love was. He had given his > heart to her. Layla for her part fared no better. She had also fallen > in love with him. A fire had lit both their hearts. > > For Kais, Layla was like the Sun, ascending into his sky with beauty > and radiance unparalleled. When the school was closed, Kais roamed the > alleyways and the passages between the market stalls, in the hope of > catching a glimpse of Layla’s dimpled face. > > Kais and Layla were not aware of the fact that the whole world knew > about their love for each other. To save themselves, and to protect > their love, they tried to control their wild glances and seal their > love-hungry lips. But, Kais could not resist his trips to Utopia. All > he could do was wander around in a trance, extolling Layla’s > beauty and praising her virtues to everyone he met. His strange > behavior attracted people towards him. People laughed at him and > called > him ‘Madman’ or the ‘Majnun’. > > The situation became intolerable for Layla’s family. They stopped > her > from leaving her tent. Kais’ separation from Layla brought about > his > separation from the rest of those he loved. Kais wept openly, > displaying his sorrow for the world to see. Layla wept in secret. > > He kept going to Layla’s tent, said a quiet prayer at the > threshold and then would return. He was senseless to the world but he > was a poet as well. The title ‘Majnun’ now became his. > > WITH LOVE COMETH PAIN: > Layla’s tribe had set a camp in the mountains of Najd. Majnun > went near her tent. He could see her sitting at its entrance. Tears > filled their eyes as they spoke to each other with mute elegance, > exchanging sighs carried by the breeze that acted as the messenger > between them. The lovers were allowed only this briefest of encounter. > Afraid that the guards would notice him, Majnun took to his heels and > fled away. > > Lord Sayyid was worried about his son’s condition. The only thing > he could do was to pray that Majnun would come to his senses and > become Kais once more. His son’s condition did not improve. > Majnun remained Majnun. Lord Sayyid knew that only if Majnun attained > his hearts > desire he would become Kais once more. So, he decided to ask for > Layla’s hand on behalf of Majnun. > > Lord Sayyid made his offer to Layla’s father. But Layla’s > father did not agree and said that he would not give his > daughter’s hand to a madman. He also said that he would hear no > more talk of love or > marriage between them. Lord Sayyid had no other option but to > withdraw his request. > > Lord Sayyid tried to take Majnun to Mecca. Majnun was too weak, so he > was carried like a tiny child in a cradle. They reached Mecca and > performed the rituals. However it was no good for Majnun. Lord Sayyid > was demoralized, since all his efforts to cure his son failed. The > pilgrimage to God’s own house had failed. > > CRIES OF THE BLEEDING HEART: > > The enormity of Majnun’s pain became unbearable. One fine > morning, Majnun ripped aside the veil of love and gathered a few > belongings and escaped once again into the deserts of Najd. He roamed > around like a wounded animal. All he knew was that he had to be alone, > no longer could he live in the world of men and survive. > > Layla was suffering from the pain of love as well. From dawn till dusk > she sought her beloved Majnun in secret; then, at midnight, when the > world was sleeping, she would call out to him with her sighs. Tears > were never far away and if she laughed, it was only to hide her grief. > On one side there was the ocean of her tears and on the other, the > raging fire of her love. Beauty was not Layla’s only gift, for > she too had a flair for the poetic art. She too composed verses in > answer to Majnun’s verses of love. > > THEREAFTER > > Once Layla was in the garden with her friends. She heard a passerby > sing > > While Layla’s garden blooms in spring, Majnun lies there, > suffering. How can Layla smile and jest, while love puts Majnun to the > test? > > On hearing this, Layla started crying. When her mother learnt about > it, she also started crying. She could not bear to see her daughter in > agony. Her mother was heartbroken and confused. > > Later in the day, Ibn Salam, a young man from the tribe known as Banu > Asad saw Layla and he immediately decided that she would be his wife. > He sent a mediator to Layla’s father with a proposal. In order to > win Layla he was willing to shower them with gold. Her father accepted > the proposal. But he wanted them to wait for some time, since Layla > was very weak. So, Ibn Salam had no other option but to wait for > Layla. > > for the rest... > http://www.top-biography.com/9095-Love%20Stories/laylamajnun2.htm > > > Care2 make the world greener! > Your Actions Can Help! > Support Strong Environmental Protections > http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32615-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 20:34:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70268 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 20:34:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70236 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 20:34:36 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c26f0a$21d41b20$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: , References: <9AC9336DD82783D4585F132FE8A84F5E@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:34:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... {{ shepherd t } One day, a new girl joined the class. Kais and every other boy in the class was attracted by her dazzling beauty. The name of the girl was Layla from the Arabic layl which means night. }} Boy, this Layla must be one fine piece of ass. Why don't you have her get in touch me so I can put some "pearls" on her "tulip red cheeks?" Eric Clapton told me that he hates you. I feed trolls. J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32616-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 20:39:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77953 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 20:39:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77931 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 20:39:39 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c26f0a$d6f8a250$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: , References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:39:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are things more important than war... {{ shepherd t } NEW IBERIA, La. (Oct. 2) - Nearly a half-million people in Louisiana and Texas were urged to clear out on Wednesday - some of them for the second time in a week - as a fearsome Hurricane Lili barreled toward the Gulf Coast with 140 mph winds. }} http://www.lamer.net/lastweek2.gif Literally. Hey, we should be bombing the Atlantic Ocean. It keeps developing meteorlogical weapons of mass destruction and there were two attacks in two weeks. I think this qualifies as terrorism, and the American public demands action! Bush needs to be defending our borders against foreign threats! J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32617-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 08 23:55:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 910 invoked by uid 1151); 8 Oct 2002 23:55:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 900 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 23:55:36 -0000 Message-ID: <1052.207.67.91.236.1034121333.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:55:33 -0500 (CDT) From: To: In-Reply-To: <001201c26f0a$21d41b20$baf9a618@core> References: <001201c26f0a$21d41b20$baf9a618@core> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... yeah, and what's with Layla having "milky-white" skin? This is set in Arabia!? I thought the people were a lovely shade of brown in those parts (sounds like you've been duped by some European revisionism, Mr. T). > Boy, this Layla must be one fine piece of ass. Why don't you have her > get in touch me so I can put some "pearls" on her "tulip red cheeks?" I hear ya... bring that Layla over by me when you're done with her *JP swings his giant manhood over Layla for a money shot of Biblical proportions* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32618-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 00:19:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10018 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 00:19:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10007 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 00:19:07 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <8B71BDEFAEB9F6D46B2F51968AC476CA@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:20:43 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: jp@phreak.net,, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] layla and the lord prophesized... actually, it's an old old story like ali baba. however, there have been many versions of the same story like the different bible movies. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Sent: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 03:48:42 -0500 (CDT) To: , Subject: Re: [mw] layla and the lord prophesized... Did you write that? Regardless, I thought it was a bit long and cliched in parts, would take some work to update (can you see Hollywood adapting it? They'd give Layla big blowjob-friendly lips and a boob job... men are such pigs eh?). JP > AT THE TWO: > > In ancient Arabia, there lived a great Lord. His name was Lord > Sayyid. He ruled over a tribe known as the Banu Amir. He was from a > noble family. He was very rich. But glory and prestige are of no use > to a childless person. Lord Sayyid wanted a legitimate heir to carry > on his family’s name. This was one burning desire that troubled > his =A0mind and soul to the extent that he forgot everything else. > > In order to attain this desire, Lord Sayyid tried to please God. He > prayed and fasted and gave alms in plenty. He did not lose faith and > continued praying, fasting and giving alms. When he was about to > admit defeat, God granted his wish and gave him a boy. This boy was a > beautiful child, just like a freshly opened rose bud. He was like a > diamond whose brilliance changes night into day. Lord Sayyid was very > happy with the birth of his child and he opened the doors of his > treasury and showered gold as though it were sand. He invited the > whole tribe to share his joy. He hosted a feast in the honor of his > child’s birth. This wondrous event was celebrated with much > festivity =A0throughout the land. > > The child was placed in the caring and tender hands of a nurse, who > suckled him and saw to it that he grew big, strong and healthy. On =A0the > fifteenth day, his parents named him Kais. By the end of his > seventh year, the first signs of approaching adulthood began to shine > like a violent sheath on his tulip-red cheeks. > > Lord Sayyid was aware of the boy’s need of an education. So, he > placed his son under the tutorship of a renowned scholar. A sage to > whom all Arabs of noble descent entrusted their children so that they > might acquire wisdom and the skills needed for desert life. > > Kais was diligent and enthusiastic. He was the best pupil his teacher > had ever taught. He excelled in reading and writing. When he spoke, > his tongue scattered pearls of wisdom. All the students who used to > study with him were from noble families of different tribes. They =A0also > included a number of young girls. One day, a new girl joined the > class. Kais and every other boy in the class was attracted by her > dazzling beauty. The name of the girl was Layla from the Arabic layl > which means night. > > FIRE BURNING BRIGHT: > > Kais fell in love with the new girl at first sight. In keeping with > her name, her hair was indeed as dark as a night. Beneath the shadow > of her hair, her face shone like a radiant beacon of beauty. Her eyes > were dark, deep and lustrous, like the eyes of the gazelle and with > one flutter of her eyelashes, she could bring the whole world under > her spell. Her tiny mouth opened to say the sweetest things, and when > others responded either with words or smiles, she would blush, > bringing blood-red roses into bloom on her milky-white cheeks. > > The mere sight of this miracle of creation would have melted the > coldest of hearts. Kais felt much more passionate about Layla than > anyone else. Layla’s beauty had bewitched Kais. He was drowning > in =A0the sea of love before he even knew what love was. He had given= his > =A0heart to her. Layla for her part fared no better. She had also fallen > in love with him. A fire had lit both their hearts. > > For Kais, Layla was like the Sun, ascending into his sky with beauty > and radiance unparalleled. When the school was closed, Kais roamed =A0the > alleyways and the passages between the market stalls, in the hope =A0of > catching a glimpse of Layla’s dimpled face. > > Kais and Layla were not aware of the fact that the whole world knew > about their love for each other. To save themselves, and to protect > their love, they tried to control their wild glances and seal their > love-hungry lips. But, Kais could not resist his trips to Utopia. All > he could do was wander around in a trance, extolling Layla’s > beauty =A0and praising her virtues to everyone he met. His strange > behavior =A0attracted people towards him. People laughed at him and > called > him ‘Madman’ or the ‘Majnun’. > > The situation became intolerable for Layla’s family. They stopped > her > from leaving her tent. Kais’ separation from Layla brought about > his > separation from the rest of those he loved. Kais wept openly, > displaying his sorrow for the world to see. Layla wept in secret. > > He kept going to Layla’s tent, said a quiet prayer at the > threshold =A0and then would return. He was senseless to the world but= he > was a =A0poet as well. The title ‘Majnun’ now became his.= > > WITH LOVE COMETH PAIN: > Layla’s tribe had set a camp in the mountains of Najd. Majnun > went =A0near her tent. He could see her sitting at its entrance. Tear= s > filled =A0their eyes as they spoke to each other with mute elegance, > exchanging =A0sighs carried by the breeze that acted as the messenger= > between them. =A0The lovers were allowed only this briefest of encounter. > Afraid that =A0the guards would notice him, Majnun took to his heels = and > fled away. > > Lord Sayyid was worried about his son’s condition. The only thing > he =A0could do was to pray that Majnun would come to his senses and > become =A0Kais once more. His son’s condition did not improve. > Majnun remained =A0Majnun. Lord Sayyid knew that only if Majnun attained > his hearts > desire he would become Kais once more. So, he decided to ask for > Layla’s hand on behalf of Majnun. > > Lord Sayyid made his offer to Layla’s father. But Layla’s > father did =A0not agree and said that he would not give his > daughter’s hand to a =A0madman. He also said that he would hear= no > more talk of love or > marriage between them. Lord Sayyid had no other option but to > withdraw his request. > > Lord Sayyid tried to take Majnun to Mecca. Majnun was too weak, so he > was carried like a tiny child in a cradle. They reached Mecca and > performed the rituals. However it was no good for Majnun. Lord Sayyid > was demoralized, since all his efforts to cure his son failed. The > pilgrimage to God’s own house had failed. > > CRIES OF THE BLEEDING HEART: > > The enormity of Majnun’s pain became unbearable. One fine > morning, =A0Majnun ripped aside the veil of love and gathered a few > belongings =A0and escaped once again into the deserts of Najd. He roamed > around =A0like a wounded animal. All he knew was that he had to be alone, > no =A0longer could he live in the world of men and survive. > > Layla was suffering from the pain of love as well. From dawn till =A0dusk > she sought her beloved Majnun in secret; then, at midnight, when =A0the > world was sleeping, she would call out to him with her sighs. =A0Tear= s > were never far away and if she laughed, it was only to hide her =A0grief. > On one side there was the ocean of her tears and on the other, =A0the= > raging fire of her love. Beauty was not Layla’s only gift, for > she too had a flair for the poetic art. She too composed verses in > answer to Majnun’s verses of love. > > THEREAFTER > > Once Layla was in the garden with her friends. She heard a passerby > sing > > While Layla’s garden blooms in spring, Majnun lies there, > suffering. =A0How can Layla smile and jest, while love puts Majnun to= the > test? > > On hearing this, Layla started crying. When her mother learnt about > it, she also started crying. She could not bear to see her daughter =A0in > agony. Her mother was heartbroken and confused. > > Later in the day, Ibn Salam, a young man from the tribe known as Banu > Asad saw Layla and he immediately decided that she would be his wife. > He sent a mediator to Layla’s father with a proposal. In order to > win =A0Layla he was willing to shower them with gold. Her father accepted > =A0the proposal. But he wanted them to wait for some time, since Layl= a > was very weak. So, Ibn Salam had no other option but to wait for > Layla. > > for the rest... > http://www.top-biography.com/9095-Love%20Stories/laylamajnun2.htm > > > Care2 make the world greener! > Your Actions Can Help! > Support Strong Environmental Protections > http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32619-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 01:11:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34264 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 01:10:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34241 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 01:10:59 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <6289A788CD207CD4D8471752E3AF58C9@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:12:41 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mesh@cinci.rr.com,, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... Layla is the name of my ex girl, and yes she had a fine piece of ass, all my ex'es were model material. I wouldn't let her near you with a ten foot pole. plus i thought you had a crush on Goose. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Josh [M]" Sent: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:34:37 -0400 To: , Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... {{ shepherd t } One day, a new girl joined the class. Kais and every other boy in the class was attracted by her dazzling beauty. The name of the girl was Layla from the Arabic layl which means night. }} Boy, this Layla must be one fine piece of ass. Why don't you have her get in touch me so I can put some "pearls" on her "tulip red cheeks?" Eric Clapton told me that he hates you. I feed trolls. J.[M] ----- Son316east: trout had been kinda shady ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32620-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 01:20:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38885 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 01:20:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38850 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 01:20:01 -0000 Message-ID: <015101c26f32$04d0dcc0$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: "[MW-Raves]" , "[Pb-Cle-OT]" References: <6289A788CD207CD4D8471752E3AF58C9@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:20:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] layla and the lord prophesized... {{ shepherd t } Layla is the name of my ex girl, and yes she had a fine piece of ass, all my ex'es were model material. }} Fine indeed. I made her my personal centerfold. - {{ shepherd t } I wouldn't let her near you with a ten foot pole. }} Too late chump - I already banged her. She squealed like a little girl and her snatch was sooo tight. God, it was fucking great - she even let me fuck her in the ass. - {{ shepherd t } plus i thought you had a crush on Goose. }} Well, I love Goose. That's why I let him bang her afterwards. - J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32621-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 01:43:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53829 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 01:43:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53819 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 01:43:52 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <4FE72AD4E5504E347A5B567467CC3946@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:45:30 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: jp@phreak.net, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... there are light skinned arab women just as there are light skinned blacks. some of the most beautiful women in the world are from arabian descent. you people need to get out more. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: Sent: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:55:33 -0500 (CDT) To: Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... yeah, and what's with Layla having "milky-white" skin? This is set in Arabia!? I thought the people were a lovely shade of brown in those parts (sounds like you've been duped by some European revisionism, Mr. T). > Boy, this Layla must be one fine piece of ass. Why don't you have her > get in touch me so I can put some "pearls" on her "tulip red cheeks?" I hear ya... bring that Layla over by me when you're done with her *JP swings his giant manhood over Layla for a money shot of Biblical proportions* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32622-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 01:49:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55183 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 01:49:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55162 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 01:49:45 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <94D248BC50397774C993FC3F30EE7D62@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:51:26 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: goose@andythepooh.com,,,,"shepherd t" X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Re: Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... please don't confuse your childhood memories with my mother. my father was a doctor and my mother a nurse, i was brought up in a sanitary household, unlike the trailor trash you probably came from. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "goose" Sent: Tue, =A08 Oct 2002 21:20:11 -0400 To: ,,,"shepherd t" Subject: Re: Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... i just want to know what drug eric clapton was referring to when he wrote that song... layla was a colorful metaphor. =A0kinda like guns n roses talking about mr. brownstone, who wasnt an old dood, but a crack rock, just like stevie's mom used to cook up. ---------- Original Message ------------------------- --------- From: "shepherd t" Date: =A0Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:12:41 -0400 >Layla is the name of my ex girl, and yes she had >a fine piece of ass, all my ex'es were model material. > >I wouldn't let her near you with a ten foot pole. > >plus i thought you had a crush on Goose. > >---- Begin Original Message ---- > >From: "Josh [M]" >Sent: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:34:37 -0400 >To: , >Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... > > >{{ shepherd t } >One day, a new girl joined the class. Kais and every other boy in the >class >was attracted by her dazzling beauty. The name of the girl was Layla >from >the Arabic layl which means night. }} > >Boy, this Layla must be one fine piece of ass. Why don't you have her >get in >touch me so I can put some "pearls" on her "tulip red cheeks?" > >Eric Clapton told me that he hates you. > >I feed trolls. > >J.[M] > > > >----- >Son316east: trout had been kinda shady > > > >---- End Original Message ---- > > > > >Care2 make the world greener! >Your Actions Can Help! >Support Strong Environmental Protections >http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > >----- >Son316east: trout had been kinda shady > > _____________________________________________________ ___________ andythepooh.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32623-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 01:54:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56381 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 01:54:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56369 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 01:54:04 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: "Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org" Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 900/1000/N Subject: [mw] Your Brain on Mondays - 10/14/02 - FREE EVENT This coming Monday the TreeHouse brings you. 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TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32624-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 01:55:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56818 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 01:55:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56808 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 01:55:03 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <7DF88D9D33055DA4E90C6F453E022B3C@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:56:46 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mesh@cinci.rr.com,"[mw-raves]" ,"[pb-cle-ot]" X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... just because you named your blow up doll 'layla' it doesn't count fool. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Josh [M]" >Too late chump - I already banged her. She squealed like a little >girl and her snatch was sooo tight. God, it was fucking great >- she even let me fuck her in the ass. {{ shepherd t } plus i thought you had a crush on Goose. }} Well, I love Goose. That's why I let him bang her afterwards. - J.[M] ----- Son316east: trout had been kinda shady ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32625-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 02:30:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64810 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 02:30:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64800 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 02:30:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:30:34 -0400 From: catnap To: , X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.4.07) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: layla and the lord prophesized... oh stevie... i actually know who layla is, and i fucked her. so have so= me other kids i know... except, you didn't. you never even dated her, you p= sycho creepy stalker. eat it, chumply. = "shepherd t" wrote: > just because you named your blow up doll = > 'layla' it doesn't count fool. > = > ---- Begin Original Message ---- > = > From: "Josh [M]" > = > >Too late chump - I already banged her. She squealed like a little = > >girl and her snatch was sooo tight. God, it was fucking great = > >- she even let me fuck her in the ass. > = > = > = > = > {{ shepherd t } > plus i thought you had a crush on Goose. }} > = > Well, I love Goose. That's why I let him bang her afterwards. > = > - > = > J.[M] > = > = > = > ----- = > Son316east: trout had been kinda shady > = > = > = > ---- End Original Message ---- > = > = > = > = > Care2 make the world greener! > Your Actions Can Help! = > Support Strong Environmental Protections > http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > = > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > = DJ Catnap "Columbus's Best Kept Secret" Mecha Studios mechastudios@usa.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32626-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 06:56:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19847 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 06:56:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19837 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 06:56:03 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 02:54:27 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mechastudios@usa.net,, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Re: layla and the lord prophesized... you have a blow up doll named layla? figures. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: catnap Sent: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:30:34 -0400 To: , Subject: [mw] Re: layla and the lord prophesized... oh stevie... =A0i actually know who layla is, and i fucked her. =A0so have some other kids i know... except, you didn't. =A0you never even dated her, you psycho creepy stalker. eat it, chumply. "shepherd t" wrote: > just because you named your blow up doll > 'layla' it doesn't count fool. > > ---- Begin Original Message ---- > > From: "Josh [M]" > > >Too late chump - I already banged her. She squealed like a little > >girl and her snatch was sooo tight. God, it was fucking great > >- she even let me fuck her in the ass. > > > > > {{ shepherd t } > plus i thought you had a crush on Goose. }} > > Well, I love Goose. That's why I let him bang her afterwards. > > - > > J.[M] > > > > ----- > Son316east: trout had been kinda shady > > > > ---- End Original Message ---- > > > > > Care2 make the world greener! > Your Actions Can Help! > Support Strong Environmental Protections > http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > DJ Catnap "Columbus's Best Kept Secret" Mecha Studios mechastudios@usa.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32627-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 07:51:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28091 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 07:51:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28069 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 07:51:54 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <165A2422176BBF3439C3892D73E25654@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 03:50:22 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mesh@cinci.rr.com,, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Re: {pbcleBS} layla and the lord prophesized... what is goose going to think now that you have just revealed that you have been spending time with eric clapton? stop feeding celestine, she's overweight enough already! ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Josh [M]" >Eric Clapton told me that he hates you. > >I feed trolls. > >J.[M] ----- Son316east: trout had been kinda shady ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32628-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 08:14:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34265 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 08:14:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34243 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 08:14:31 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:13:01 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] hey the system works! wow, over a week since i dropped the logic of provoked and un-provoked war... from drudgereport.com... Tenet suggests Iraq may not strike unless provoked... By Jim Abrams Associated Press Writer Tuesday, October 8, 2002; 3:39 PM WASHINGTON –– Saddam Hussein's apparent policy of not resorting to terrorist attacks against the United States could change if he concludes a U.S.-led attack against him was inevitable, CIA Director George Tenet said as President's Bush bid for congressional support to use force hit a snag in the Senate. Tenet, in a letter read before a joint hearing of the House and Senate intelligence committees Tuesday, said that "Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or chemical or biological weapons." But Tenet went on to say that should Saddam conclude that a U.S.-led attack against his country could not be deterred, "he probably would become much less constrained in adopting terrorist action." --- same as it ever was. i do the CIA's homework for free. while they make me pay for theirs sins. stupid ass haters. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32629-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 08:23:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35358 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 08:23:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35334 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 08:23:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 01:23:32 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, Message-ID: <20021009012309.P35314-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] testing, disregard, thanks thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32630-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 08:32:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36933 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 08:32:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36909 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 08:32:15 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <09AA6FF27FACD1D4D92033146F20122C@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:30:36 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] the parable of the sower... The Parable of the Sower by Martin Luther (1483-1546) The following sermon is taken from volume II of, The Sermons of Martin Luther, published by Baker Book House (Grand Rapids, MI). It was originally published in 1906 in english by Lutherans In All Lands (Minneapolis, MN), in a series titled The Precious and Sacred Writings of Martin Luther, vol. 11. The original title of this sermon appears below. This e-text was scanned and edited by Shane Rosenthal for Reformation Ink ; it is in the public domain and it may be copied and distributed without restriction. Original pagination from the Baker edition has been kept intact for purposes of reference. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 113 THE DISCIPLES & THE FRUITS OF GOD'S WORD LUKE 8:4-15: And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable: A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it. And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be? And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 114 SECTION I. THE NATURE OF THE WORD SPOKEN HERE. 1. This Gospel treats of the disciples and the fruits, which the Word of God develops in the world. It does not speak of the law nor of human institutions; but, as Christ himself says, of the Word of God, which he himself the sower preaches, for the law bears no fruit, just as little as do the institutions of men. Christ however sets forth here four kinds of disciples of the divine Word. SECTION II. THE DISCIPLES OF THIS WORD. 2. The first class of disciples are those who hear the Word but neither understand nor esteem it. And these are not the mean people in the world, but the greatest, wisest and the most saintly, in short they are the greatest part of mankind; for Christ does not speak here of those who persecute the Word nor of those who fail to give their ear to it, but of those who hear it and are students of it, who also wish to be called true Christians and to live in Christian fellowship with Christians and are partakers of baptism and the Lord's Supper. But they are of a carnal heart, and remain so, failing to appropriate the Word of God to themselves, it goes in one ear and out the other. Just like the seed along the wayside did not fall into the earth, but remained lying on the ground in the wayside, because the road was tramped hard by the feet of man and beast and it could not take root. 3. Therefore Christ says the devil cometh and taketh away the Word from their heart, that they may not believe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 115 and be saved. What power of Satan this alone reveals, that hearts, hardened through a worldly mind and life, lose the Word and let it go, so that they never understand or confess it; but instead of the Word of God Satan sends false teachers to tread it under foot by the doctrines of men. For it stands here written both that it was trodden under foot, and the birds of the heaven devoured it. The birds Christ himself interprets as the messengers of the devil, who snatch away the Word and devour it, which is done when he turns and blinds their hearts so that they neither understand nor esteem it, as St. Paul says in 2 Tim 4:4: "They will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables." By the treading under foot of men Christ means the teachings of men, that rule in our hearts, as he says in Mt 5:13 also of the salt that has lost its savor, it is cast out and trodden under foot, of men; that is, as St. Paul says in 2 Ths. 2:11, they must believe a lie because they have not been obedient to the truth. 4. Thus all heretics, fanatics and sects belong to this number, who understand the Gospel in a carnal way and explain it as they please, to suit their own ideas, all of whom hear the Gospel and yet they bear no fruit, yea, more, they are governed by Satan and are harder oppressed by human institutions than they were before they heard the Word. For it is a dreadful utterance that Christ here gives that the devil taketh away the Word from their hearts, by which he clearly proves that the devil rules mightily in their hearts, notwithstanding they are called Christians and hear the Word. Likewise it sounds terribly that they are to be trodden under foot, and must be subject unto men and to their ruinous teachings, by which under the appearance and name of the Gospel the devil takes the Word from them, so that they may never believe and be saved, but must be lost forever; as the fanatical spirits of our day do in all lands. For where this Word is not, there is no salvation, and great works or holy lives avail nothing, for [it is] with this, that he says: "They shall not be saved," since they have not the Word, he shows forcibly enough, that not their ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 116 works but their faith in the Word alone saves, as Paul says to the Romans: "It is, the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth" (Rom 1:16). 5. The second class of hearers are those who receive the Word with joy, but they do not persevere. These are also a large multitude who understand the Word correctly and lay hold of it in its purity without any spirit of sect, division or fanaticism, they rejoice also in that they know the real truth, and are able to know how they may be saved without works through faith. They also know that they are free from the bondage of the law, of their conscience and of human teachings; but when it comes to the test that they must suffer harm, disgrace and loss of life or property, then they fall and deny it; for they have not root enough, and are not planted deep enough in the soil. Hence they are like the growth on a rock, which springs forth fresh and green, that it is a pleasure to behold it and it awakens bright hopes. But when the sun shines hot it withers, because it has no soil and moisture, and only rock is there. So these do; in times of persecution they deny or keep silence about the Word, and work, speak and suffer all that their persecutors mention or wish, who formerly went forth and spoke, and confessed with a fresh and joyful spirit the same, while there was still peace and no heat, so that there was hope they would bear much fruit and serve the people. For these fruits are not only the works, but more the confession, preaching and spreading of the Word, so that many others may thereby be converted and the kingdom of God be developed. 6. The third class are those who hear and understand the Word, but still it falls on the other side of the road, among the pleasures and cares of this life, so that they also do nothing with the Word. And there is quite a large multitude of these; for although they do not start heresies, like the first, but always possess the absolutely pure Word, they are also, not attacked on the left as the others with opposition and persecution; yet they fall on the right side, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 117 and it is their ruin that they enjoy peace and good days. Therefore they do not earnestly give themselves to the Word, but become indifferent and sink in the cares, riches and pleasures of this life, so that they are of no benefit to any one. Therefore they are like the seed that fell among the thorns. Although it is not rocky but good soil; not wayside but deeply plowed soil; yet, the thorns will not let it spring up, they choke it. Thus these have all in the Word that is needed for their salvation, but they do not make any use of it, and they rot in this life in carnal pleasures. To these belong those who hear the Word but do not bring under subjection their flesh. They know their duty but do it not, they teach but do not practice what they teach, and are this year as they were last. 7. The fourth class are those who lay hold of and keep the Word in a good and honest heart, and bring forth fruit with patience, those who hear the Word and steadfastly retain it, meditate upon it and act in harmony with it. The devil does not snatch it away, nor are they thereby led astray, moreover the heat of persecution does not rob them of it, and the thorns of pleasure and the avarice of the times do not hinder its growth; but they bear fruit by teaching others and by developing the kingdom of God, hence they also do good to their neighbor in love; and therefore Christ adds, "they bring forth fruit with patience." For these must suffer much on account of the Word, shame and disgrace from fanatics and heretics, hatred and jealousy with injury to body and property from their persecutors, not to mention what the thorns and the temptations of their own flesh do, so that it may well be called the Word of the cross; for he who would keep it must bear the cross and misfortune, and triumph. field, 8. He says: "In honest and good hearts." Like a field that is without a thorn or brush, cleared and spacious, as a beautiful clean place: so a heart is also cleared and clean, broad and spacious, that is without cares and avarice as to temporal needs, so that the Word of God truly finds lodgment there. But the field is good, not only when it lies ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 118 there cleared and level, but when it is also rich and fruitful, possesses soil and is productive, and not like a stony and gravelly field. Just so is the heart that has good soil and with a full spirit is strong, fertile and good to keep the Word and bring forth fruit with patience. 9. Here we see why it is no wonder there are so few true Christians, for all the seed does not fall into good ground, but only the fourth and small part; and that they are not to be trusted who boast they are Christians and praise the teaching of the Gospel; like Demas, a disciple of St. Paul, who forsook him at last (2 Tim. 4:10); like the disciples of Jesus, who turned their backs to him (John 6:66). For Christ himself cries out here: "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear," as if he should say: O, how few true Christians there are; one dare not believe all to be Christians who are called Christians and hear the Gospel, more is required than that. 10. All this is spoken for our instruction, that we may not go astray, since so many misuse the Gospel and few lay hold of it aright. True it is unpleasant to preach to those who treat the Gospel so shamefully and even oppose it. For preaching is to become so universal that the Gospel is to be proclaimed to all creatures, as Christ says in Mk. 16:15: "Preach the Gospel to the whole creation;" and Ps. 19:4: "Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world." What business is it of mine that many do not esteem it? It must be that many are called but few are chosen. For the sake of the good ground that brings forth fruit with patience, the seed must also fall fruitless by the wayside, on the rock and among the thorns; inasmuch as we are assured that the Word of God does not go forth without bearing some fruit, but it always finds also good ground; as Christ says here, some seed of the sower falls also into good ground, and not only by the wayside, among the thorns and on stony ground. For wherever the Gospel goes you will find Christians. "My word shall not return unto me void" (Is. 55:11). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 122 [pages 119-121 omitted (section III) in this on-line edition] SECTION IV. WHY CHRIST CALLS THE DOCTRINE CONCERNING THE DISCIPLES AND THE FRUITS OF THE WORD A MYSTERY. 19. But what does it mean when he says: "Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God", etc.? What are the mysteries? Shall one not know them, why then are they preached? A "mystery" is a hidden secret, that is not known: and the "mysteries of the kingdom of God" are the things in the kingdom of God, as for example Christ with all his grace, which he manifests to us, as Paul describes him; for he who knows Christ aright understands what God's kingdom is, and what is in it. And it is called a mystery because it is spiritual and secret, and indeed it remains so, where the spirit does not reveal it. For although there are many who see and hear it, yet they do not understand it. just as there are many who preach and hear Christ, how he offered himself for us; but all that is only upon their tongue and not in their heart; for they themselves do not believe it, they do not experience it, as Paul in 1 Cor. 2:14 says: "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God!" Therefore Christ says here: "Unto you it is given", the Spirit gives it to you that you not only hear and see it, but acknowledge and believe it with your heart. Therefore it is now no longer a mystery ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- THE SERMONS OF MARTIN LUTHER, VOL. II, PAGE 123 to you. But to the others who hear it as well as you, and have no faith in their heart, they see and understand it not; to them it is a mystery and it will continue unknown to them, and all that they hear is only like one hearing a parable or a dark saying. This is also proved by the fanatics of our day, who know so much to preach about Christ; but as they themselves do not experience it in their heart, they rush ahead and pass by the true foundation of the mystery and tramp around with questions and rare foundlings, and when it comes to the test they do not know the least thing about trusting in God and finding in Christ the forgiveness of their sins. 20. But Mark says (4:33), Christ spake therefore to the people with parables, that they might understand, each according to his ability. How does that agree with what Matthew says, 13:13-14: He spake therefore unto them in parables, because they did not understand? It must surely be that Mark wishes to say that parables serve to the end that they may get a hold of coarse, rough people, although they do not indeed understand them, yet later, they may be taught and then they know: for parables are naturally pleasing to the common people, and they easily remember them since they are taken from common every day affairs, in the midst of which the people live. But Matthew means to say that these parables are of the nature that no one can understand them, they may grasp and hear them as often as they will, unless the Spirit makes them known and reveals them. Not that they should preach that we shall not understand them; but it naturally follows that wherever the Spirit does not reveal them, no one understands them. However, Christ took these words from Is. 6:9-10, where the high meaning of the divine foreknowledge is referred to, that God conceals and reveals to whom he will and whom he had in mind from eternity. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32631-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 08:37:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38343 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 08:37:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38320 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 08:37:12 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <1BE056171B98A694194A3A1DA4F8B1B4@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:35:10 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: trout@chemlab.org,pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: Re: {pbcleBS} hey the system works! actually i revealed that revelation via voice. unfortunately you are seemingly only involved in internet counter-intelligence. i wish you were involved in pure intelligence trout, but then it would require absolute truth and complete adherence to the word of God. this is how we have grown to different parts of the spectrum. come back into the light jamie. ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "trout" Sent: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:27:43 -0400 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} hey the system works! why do you think your email is intercepted? ----- Original Message ----- From: "shepherd t" > same as it ever was. > i do the CIA's homework for free. > while they make me pay for theirs sins. > stupid ass haters. ----- ...unfortunately, this list has been over-run by a bunch of red neck, white trash, ghetto, geeks, dorks, and wanna-be's. ---- End Original Message ---- Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32632-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 09:19:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46084 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 09:19:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46074 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 09:19:14 -0000 Message-ID: <2372.207.67.91.223.1034155152.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:19:12 -0500 (CDT) From: To: , In-Reply-To: <1BE056171B98A694194A3A1DA4F8B1B4@undergroundt.care2.com> References: <1BE056171B98A694194A3A1DA4F8B1B4@undergroundt.care2.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] FATMOUSE was Re: [mw] Re: Re: {pbcleBS} hey the system works! StevieT, your rantings have grown tiresome and further irrelevant, esp. now with the coming of FATMOUSE! http://www.fatmouse.tk/ "FATMOUSE IS COMING TO LEAD THIS POOR, THIN WORLD INTO A NEW AGE OF GLORIOUS GLUTTONY. YOU MUST PREPARE FOR HIS COMING; PREPARE TO GIVE UP YOUR WEALTH, YOUR LABOUR AND YOUR BIOMASS FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF FATMOUSE. YOU WILL BRING HIM THE HEADS OF HIS WRETCHED ADVERSARIES, YOU WILL BRING HIM THEIR CANNED GOODS AND PERISHABLES, AND YOU WILL BRING HIM THEIR BABIES, PREFERABLY SAUTEÉD WITH ONIONS. YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED. FATMOUSE IS COMING AND YOU WILL SERVE HIM, WILLINGLY WITH YOUR LIFE AND SOUL OR UNWILLINGLY WITH YOUR SPIT-ROASTED REMAINS. FATMOUSE MUST FEED." http://www.fatmouse.tk/ > ...unfortunately, this list has been over-run by a bunch of red neck, > white trash, ghetto, geeks, dorks, and wanna-be's. > > > > ---- End Original Message ---- > > > > > Care2 make the world greener! http://www.fatmouse.tk/ > Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.fatmouse.tk/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, http://www.fatmouse.tk/ > For additional commands, http://www.fatmouse.tk/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32633-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 13:04:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89413 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 13:04:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89391 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 13:04:45 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 09:00:59 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: ,, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are things more important than war... i second that. we should bomb the hell out of the atlantic ocean until they are with us an= d not against us. damn clouds of destruction. >>> "Josh [M]" 10/08/02 04:39PM >>> {{ shepherd t } NEW IBERIA, La. (Oct. 2) - Nearly a half-million people in Louisiana and Texas were urged to clear out on Wednesday - some of them for the second time in a week - as a fearsome Hurricane Lili barreled toward the Gulf Coast with 140 mph winds. }} http://www.lamer.net/lastweek2.gif=20 Literally. Hey, we should be bombing the Atlantic Ocean. It keeps developing meteorlogical weapons of mass destruction and there were two attacks in two weeks. I think this qualifies as terrorism, and the American public demands action! Bush needs to be defending our borders against foreign threats! J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32634-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 13:13:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94481 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 13:13:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94464 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 13:13:56 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:13:56 -0500 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E20@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... thread-index: AcJvlHR2SWYOiwEIStCoZkd1pJBn5QAASEnQ From: "Tony Sebion" To: "Chris Dooley" , , , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... I thought it was the white horse of destruction. still drunk off last night's pee, -t -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:dooleyc@firstcharter.com]=20 Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... i second that. we should bomb the hell out of the atlantic ocean until they are with us and not against us. damn clouds of destruction. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32635-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 13:15:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95217 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 13:15:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95205 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 13:15:51 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:15:50 -0500 Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E21@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... thread-index: AcJvlHR2SWYOiwEIStCoZkd1pJBn5QAASEnQAAAR70A= From: "Tony Sebion" To: "Tony Sebion" , "Chris Dooley" , , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... Or maybe the white horse of conquering. I dunno, I get all these delusions confused. +10 stevie t points for replying to my own post, haven't had those for a while, -t -----Original Message----- From: Tony Sebion=20 To: Chris Dooley; mesh@cinci.rr.com; mw-raves@hyperreal.org; pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... I thought it was the white horse of destruction. still drunk off last night's pee, -t -----Original Message----- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:dooleyc@firstcharter.com]=20 Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... i second that. we should bomb the hell out of the atlantic ocean until they are with us and not against us. damn clouds of destruction. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32636-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 14:52:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34732 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 14:52:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34711 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 14:52:41 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:50:59 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] chemical and bio experiments on america's own people... ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: CELESTINE L COOKSON >I won't burn. Witches don't burn. But I'm thinking about >turning you into a newt. --- you're a witch?!...that explains alot! well, i guess there's only one way to find out if a witch burns or not! atleast this will be less expensive than the chemical and biological experiments that the US had conducted on their own soldiers... from drudgereport.com... The Defense Department has identified nearly 3,000 soldiers involved in tests disclosed earlier, but the VA has sent letters to fewer than half of them. VA and Pentagon officials acknowledged at a July hearing that finding the soldiers has been difficult. The tests described in the latest Pentagon documents include: _ Devil Hole I, designed to test how sarin gas would disperse after being released in artillery shells and rockets in aspen and spruce forests. The tests occurred in the summer of 1965 at the Gerstle River test site near Fort Greeley, Alaska, the documents said. Sarin is a powerful nerve gas that causes a choking, thrashing death. It killed 12 people in a Tokyo subway attack in 1995 and the Bush administration says it is part of Iraq's chemical arsenal. _ Devil Hole II, which tested how the nerve agent VX behaved when dispersed with artillery shells. The test at the Gerstle River site in Alaska also included mannequins in military uniforms and military trucks. VX is one of the deadliest nerve agents known and is persistent in the environment because it is a sticky liquid that evaporates slowly. Iraq has acknowledged making tons of VX. _ Big Tom, a 1965 test that included spraying bacteria over the Hawaiian island of Oahu to simulate a biological attack on an island compound, and to develop tactics for such an attack. The test used Bacillus globigii, a bacterium believed at the time to be harmless. Researchers later discovered the bacteria could cause infections in people with weakened immune systems. --- how hypocritical that the US would accuse Iraq of chemical and biological weapons when #1 - we sold it to them and #2 we have probably fifty times more chemical and biological weapons here! and let the record show that America had sooner experiment with chemical and biological weapons on their own troops than feed the poor! the only difference now, is that the US no longer has to pay the soldiers off...we have idiot ravers that glady buy trout's CIA meth to fund the new chemical and biological experiments conducted upon american ghetto neighborhoods! Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32637-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 09 15:01:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37036 invoked by uid 1151); 9 Oct 2002 15:01:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37015 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 15:01:09 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <646D20D6D49DE2742BE0C1D809C23F54@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:59:25 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: dooleyc@firstcharter.com,,, X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... bahahahahaha!! ROFLMAO!! this is the second funniest joke i've heard for a long time!! ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: "Chris Dooley" Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} mother nature warning bush that there are thingsmore important than war... i second that. we should bomb the hell out of the atlantic ocean until they are with us and not against us. damn clouds of destruction. Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32638-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 10 03:31:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35459 invoked by uid 1151); 10 Oct 2002 03:31:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35449 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 03:31:09 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.192.81.56] From: "Donnielle Reevers" To: misszak@hotmail.com, MrFlashin@aol.com, music@electricviolence.com, musicisart313@yahoo.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, NaturalOlivia76@aol.com, Normtalley@cs.com, NouveauRicheEnt@netzero.net, organic313@hotmail.com Bcc: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 03:31:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_56ec_4367_37da" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2002 03:31:20.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FF62A00:01C2700D] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Fwd: DEEP HEAT SATURDAYS @ FORAN's ------=_NextPart_000_56ec_4367_37da Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ------=_NextPart_000_56ec_4367_37da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ------=_NextPart_000_56ec_4367_37da-- From mw-raves-return-32639-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 10 13:00:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39594 invoked by uid 1151); 10 Oct 2002 13:00:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39573 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 13:00:12 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:56:32 -0400 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 500/1000/N Subject: [mw] look at who's number i found yes this is a little ot....but damn important. I woke up this morning and thought for a moment that I couldn't do anything= to stop the violent juggernaut beginning to roll in D.C.=20 I was mistaken.=20 Join me in phoning the White House comment line at 202-456-1111 between 9am= and 5 pm EDT. A machine will detain you for only a moment and then a pleas= ant live operator will thank you for saying "I oppose" (or "I approve of") = the proposed war against Iraq. The president wants to know. Tell him. Time is running out. We can all support this war when there hasnt been a shred of proof of wmd a= nd saddam's willingness to allow inspectors in (which is why we had the bee= f, i thought, in the first place). There hasnt been one bit of evidence brought forth, not one shred that prov= es wmd, or that saddam (the bad man he is, yes) is a threat to the us or an= yone. Or we can see that this is a political and stupid move by this whole admini= stration. Oh i see a quite a few lives of american soldiers (plus more terrorism fors= een in our future as we piss off the whole arab world even more with americ= a's invasion of another country out of the blue) being taken at the expense= of so called democracy? Ever seen black hawk down? Imagine having to battle your way through a city like new york city (baghda= d), with innocent civilians all around, street by street just to try and g= et to a presidential palace to oust saddam. When will this administration's insanity stop? And 5 weeks before the elections? Here is two quotes i have that might interest you. "The people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders.=20 That is easy. All you do is tell them they are being attacked and=20 denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism." --Nazi leader Hermann=20 Goering "Any people that would give up liberty for little temporary safety=20 deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Please pass this number on to those you know if you want!!! this is my opinion of the situation at hand of course. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32640-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 11 09:36:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12330 invoked by uid 1151); 11 Oct 2002 09:36:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12320 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2002 09:36:27 -0000 From: NothingARN@aol.com Message-ID: <66.28bdf82c.2ad7f5a8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:36:40 EDT To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_66.28bdf82c.2ad7f5a8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10626 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Dissociation - Friday, October 25 - Des Moines --part1_66.28bdf82c.2ad7f5a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dissociative Records and Sublunary Artist Management bring you: DISSOCIATION 1. The process by which a compound body breaks into its primary elements. 2. Des Moines' first all techno event for the true heads to celebrate the launch of the Dissociative label. Friday October 25th, 2002 9p-5a Des Moines, Iowa All Ages Event 24 hour infoline: 515.830.1893 www.SublunaryAM.com Adam Jay (live pa) Primevil, Zync, Placktown Sounds, www.azurerecords.com Indianapolis If you pay any attention at all to techno, you know this guy is on point, solidly bangin' out release after release on many highly respected European techno labels, his own Azure imprint, and soon Des Moines' own Dissociative. His records can be heard in the sets of the world's biggest techno djs, including Richie Hawtin's forthcoming third "DE9" mix cd. Don't miss this rare live appearance. (No records, no turn tables, just a man and his machines.) Offtrack www.technojusticeleague.org, www.deepfixrecords.com Kansas City It's been over 2 years since Des Moines has been rocked by this Kansas City techno mastermind. He's one of the founding members of the Techno Justice Leage and is the techno buyer for Deep Fix, KCMO's biggest and best store specializing in dance vinyl. With all his knowledge and techno experience, you can expect nothing but the best from Mr. Offtrack. nn0th1ng Dissociative, www.sublunaryam.com, Invasion, TJL Des Moines As one of the founding members of Dissociative, the Invasion, and Sublunary Artist Management nnothing has been involved in bringing serious techno to Iowa, and spreading the sound across the country. As a promoter all 25 of his events have featured techno from around the world, and as a dj he's performed at over 85 events in 10 states. This will be his first appearance in the Des Moines metro area in over a year. Mindtrap Midwest Dreams Des Moines Nemesis XO Isolated Entertainment Ames Troy Ponyboy Productions Urbandale All Techno!!! All Night!!! All Right!!! $10 at the door info: 515.830.1893 www.sublunaryam.com --part1_66.28bdf82c.2ad7f5a8_boundary-- From mw-raves-return-32641-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 11 17:02:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26872 invoked by uid 1151); 11 Oct 2002 17:02:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26862 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2002 17:02:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20021011170235.60634.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Eden To: mw_rave_post@yahoogroups.com, iu-ravers@yahoogroups.com, ohiofun@yahoogroups.com, detroitRAVErs@yahoogroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, bass-state@yahoogroups.com, stl_raves@yahoogroups.com, northerninraves@yahoogroups.com, illinois-raves@yahoogroups.com, stlouisravescene@yahoogroups.com, ClubCapeG@yahoogroups.com, Ohio-raves@yahoogroups.com, l-villeunderground@yahoogroups.com, louisville-raves@yahoogroups.com, proravers@yahoogroups.com, oORaVeOo@yahoogroups.com, IU-B-Events@yahoogroups.com, il-rave-scene@yahoogroups.com, MidwestMusicForum@yahoogroups.com, new-michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, in-raves@yahoogroups.com, chicagoraves@yahoogroups.com, Chicagoplur@yahoogroups.com, --technoworld@onelist.com, michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, wisconsinpartykidzunderground@yahoogroups.com, chicagoraversparadise@yahoogroups.com, pittsburghclevelandravescene@yahoogroups.com, indybassnet@yahoogroups.com, isuravers@yahoogroups.com, indianarave@yahoogroups.com, ohio_party_kids_unite@yahoogroups.com, puraves@ecn.purdue.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-227397201-1034355755=:60567" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Dark Seduction-Max Graham --0-227397201-1034355755=:60567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eden presents................ Dark SeductionThursday 10.31.02 Max Graham / Ottawa, Canada / Hope Recordings, Balance Promote Group Once again, Eden is taking it to the next level. Our Halloween treat to you, Hope Recording’s own DJ and producer, Max Graham. Formerly Oakenfold’s right hand man, Max has risen to world renowned status through his constant touring and cd releases including the wildly popular Transport 4 double cd compilation on Kinetic Records. Max has played out with the likes of label-mate Timo Maas and Paul Van Dyk and has several of his releases featured on compilations from Tiesto to Paul Oakenfold. He has played everywhere - Asia, Israel, England, Mexico, Australia, Ibiza and all over North America - with residencies at Circus in LA, Nikita in San Francisco, Sona in Montreal, Gatecrasher in Sheffield, UK. Currently one of Canada’s most prized exports, join us and our tour guide, Max Graham, as we find Dark Seduction. Costume Contest Get into the "spirit" and into a costume. This is the one night that you can be whatever the hell you want to be. ALL NIGHT. 1st place: $100 2nd place: $50 3rd place: $50 Old School Slumber Party The second floor will be transformed into a classic slumber party with classic horror flicks on the big screen, treats and of course, potent witches brew for all the guests. Details: Additional: Resident performances by Dennis Roseth (Balance Promote Group/Velocity Promote Group) and Seth and Mack (Evolving Records/In the Groove) Giveaways: Free Glowsticks to the first 50 freaks Date: Friday, October 31st, 2002 Price: $6.00 Where: Eden - 6235 N. Guilford Ave.-Indianapolis, IN 317-475-1588 When: Doors @ 9:00pm, Vinyl @ 9:00pm til 3:00am Ages: 21+ Info Line: 317.251.1030 www.maxgraham.com www.balancepromote.com www.velocitypromote.com www.evolvingrecords.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com --0-227397201-1034355755=:60567-- From mw-raves-return-32642-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 11 18:37:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6343 invoked by uid 1151); 11 Oct 2002 18:37:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6332 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2002 18:37:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20021011183752.76259.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Eden To: mw_rave_post@yahoogroups.com, iu-ravers@yahoogroups.com, ohiofun@yahoogroups.com, detroitRAVErs@yahoogroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, bass-state@yahoogroups.com, stl_raves@yahoogroups.com, northerninraves@yahoogroups.com, illinois-raves@yahoogroups.com, stlouisravescene@yahoogroups.com, ClubCapeG@yahoogroups.com, Ohio-raves@yahoogroups.com, l-villeunderground@yahoogroups.com, louisville-raves@yahoogroups.com, proravers@yahoogroups.com, oORaVeOo@yahoogroups.com, IU-B-Events@yahoogroups.com, il-rave-scene@yahoogroups.com, MidwestMusicForum@yahoogroups.com, new-michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, in-raves@yahoogroups.com, chicagoraves@yahoogroups.com, Chicagoplur@yahoogroups.com, --technoworld@onelist.com, michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, wisconsinpartykidzunderground@yahoogroups.com, chicagoraversparadise@yahoogroups.com, pittsburghclevelandravescene@yahoogroups.com, indybassnet@yahoogroups.com, isuravers@yahoogroups.com, indianarave@yahoogroups.com, ohio_party_kids_unite@yahoogroups.com, puraves@ecn.purdue.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-15263090-1034361472=:76083" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] **Dark Seduction-Max Graham{repost}** --0-15263090-1034361472=:76083 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NOTE: Sorry for the REPOST.. the initial eflyer had the wrong price and wrong day of the week in the "details".. Once again, sorry for the repost... ___________________________________________________________________ Eden presents................ Dark SeductionThursday 10.31.02 Max Graham / Ottawa, Canada / Hope Recordings, Balance Promote Group Once again, Eden is taking it to the next level. Our Halloween treat to you, Hope Recording’s own DJ and producer, Max Graham. Formerly Oakenfold’s right hand man, Max has risen to world renowned status through his constant touring and cd releases including the wildly popular Transport 4 double cd compilation on Kinetic Records. Max has played out with the likes of label-mate Timo Maas and Paul Van Dyk and has several of his releases featured on compilations from Tiesto to Paul Oakenfold. He has played everywhere - Asia, Israel, England, Mexico, Australia, Ibiza and all over North America - with residencies at Circus in LA, Nikita in San Francisco, Sona in Montreal, Gatecrasher in Sheffield, UK. Currently one of Canada’s most prized exports, join us and our tour guide, Max Graham, as we find Dark Seduction. Costume Contest Get into the "spirit" and into a costume. This is the one night that you can be whatever the hell you want to be. ALL NIGHT. 1st place: $100 2nd place: $50 3rd place: $50 Old School Slumber Party The second floor will be transformed into a classic slumber party with classic horror flicks on the big screen, treats and of course, potent witches brew for all the guests. Details: Additional: Resident performances by Dennis Roseth (Balance Promote Group/Velocity Promote Group) and Seth and Mack (Evolving Records/In the Groove) Giveaways: Free Glowsticks to the first 50 freaks Date: Thursday, October 31st, 2002 Price: $10.00 Where: Eden - 6235 N. Guilford Ave.-Indianapolis, IN 317-475-1588 When: Doors @ 9:00pm, Vinyl @ 9:00pm til 3:00am Ages: 21+ Info Line: 317.251.1030 www.maxgraham.com www.balancepromote.com www.velocitypromote.com www.evolvingrecords.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com --0-15263090-1034361472=:76083-- From mw-raves-return-32643-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 12 12:45:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15033 invoked by uid 1151); 12 Oct 2002 12:45:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15016 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2002 12:45:15 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <0287BB9125002BA44B641EF1BEE38AAE@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:45:52 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] killfrog ultimate survivor in afghanistan series http://www.killfrog.com/01/usap.html http://www.killfrog.com/01/usa1.html http://www.killfrog.com/02/usa2.html Care2 make the world greener! 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Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32644-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 12 14:15:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27621 invoked by uid 1151); 12 Oct 2002 14:15:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95912 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2002 09:38:21 -0000 From: mailinglist-owner@incentivemusic.co.uk To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: "Incentive Mailout" Errors-To: "Incentive Mailout Administrator" Organization: Incentive Mailout MIME-Version: 1.0 List: Incentive_Mailout List-Archive: http://www.incentivemusicengine.co.uk/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?flavor=archive&list=Incentive_Mailout List-ID: 20021011180109 List-Owner: List-Subscribe: http://www.incentivemusicengine.co.uk/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?flavor=subscribe&list=Incentive_Mailout List-URL: http://www.incentivemusicengine.co.uk/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi?list=Incentive_Mailout List-Software: Mojo Mail 2.5.1 http://mojo.skazat.com X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_1034355669257670" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Message-Id: Sender: nobody Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 09:46:46 +0100 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Incentive Mailout message --_----------=_1034355669257670 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1283 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain   Krystal K 'Let's Get It Right' OUT in record stores NOW Cat #s CENT46CDS (CD), CENT46T (12") Krystal K /Let's Get It Right/ is a feelgood vocal house track that has been played by everyone from Pete Tong & DJ Lottie  to Danny Howells  & Judge Jules . The kind Mr Howells liked the track so much that he even did his own re-edit of the original _Vox mix_  -  giving it a few more DJ friendly beats at the start before those unmistakable guitar licks kick in. Having already been Buzz Chart #1,  the 12" & CD are finally available. The 12" features the Vox mix as well as remixes from Altitude and Dirty Trikz. 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Anyone?? Kids, What the hell is going on for Halloween?? (0_o) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32646-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 12 18:27:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76861 invoked by uid 1151); 12 Oct 2002 18:27:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76851 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2002 18:27:14 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: "dan sharp" Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Halloween Events??? Anyone?? 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. With enough room to fit 600+ Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all night!! Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro LiveWire - Electromagntechno I.P.X. - Filtered Funk Casper - Jungle Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! for more info dial 312.409.2626 or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32647-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 12 21:44:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25592 invoked by uid 1151); 12 Oct 2002 21:44:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25570 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2002 21:44:33 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:42:55 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] halo tonight at club chaos in columbus... sat. oct. 12 mythodic productions and ritual saturdays present H-foundation featuring Halo - Soma/BlueM/Siesta/Champion Sound/ San Diego - Halo aka Brian Varga has been involved with dance music since he got his first job at Chicago's Hip House Records at the age of 9...Naturally progressing into the world of the DJ at the age of 12, Halo was soon a chicago favorite even though he wasn't old enough to get into the clubs...After the psychotic atmosphere of the midwest rave scene had lost its appeal, production seemed to be more than the next step, it was Halo's way of connecting with the rest of the world and a way to escape the increasing intensity of Chicago. working A&R for Moody records allowed Halo to connect more closely with other producers around the States whose work he respected and wanted to support...a longtime friendship and common interests led him to try a project with Hipp-E and the H-Foundation was established...the two produced a hybrid sound that paired the jackin' beats of Chicago with the smoked out sounds of the Pacific...quickly supported by Siesta Music in their new home of San Diego, their new friends at Soma in Glasgow, label giant Hooj Choons, and even the East Coast legends at Yoshitoshi, they drew the attention of the world to the self-contained music industry of the west coast. + Quantum - Mythodic/CEG/Ritual/Culture 7 Dress Code: As it should be - come as you are 18+ welcome $10 general admission $5 reduced admission for guest list 1530 Bethel Rd (in the bethel center) Columbus, Ohio Care2 make the world greener! 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Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32648-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 12 22:01:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28252 invoked by uid 1151); 12 Oct 2002 22:01:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28232 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2002 22:01:25 -0000 X-Version: caremail 7.5.3401.0 From: "shepherd t" Message-Id: <8DB5D78BF02DADF48AEDD4EFAB08CBA5@undergroundt.care2.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:59:43 -0400 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] another natural disaster that's more important than war... well, since the farmer's drought issue hasn't been cleared up yet (God knows how much the farmers have lost because of that not to mention how it's going to effect the price of food in the future), hopefully this will be important enough to recieve some funding (and no, this is obviously not bullshit)... from drudgereport.com (check the site for the pictures)... 10 die in horrific pileup 38 vehicles collide on fog-choked I-43 in the deadliest accident in state history By GREG J. BOROWSKI, DAN BENSON and JESSICA HANSEN gborowski@journalsentinel.com Last Updated: Oct. 11, 2002 Cedar Grove - A fiery accident involving 38 vehicles on a stretch of highway smothered with morning fog left 10 dead and dozens injured Friday in the deadliest pileup in state history. Highway Horror More than two dozen vehicles were involved in a fiery, fatal crash on I-43 near the Sheboygan-Ozaukee county line Friday morning. The Toll Dead: 10 Injured: 36 'Critical': 7 'Serious': 1 Released: 28 Related Coverage Video: Today's TMJ4 reports Scene: Relatives wait and worry Teens: 1 killed, 1 critical in nearby fog-related crash Fog: A common contributor to crashes, especially on I-43 Stingl: On a day that began like any other More Information Concerned family and friends can call one of the following hotline numbers for more information: 920-459-4374 920-459-3875 920-459-3899 920-459-3369 920-459-3112 Graphic/Bob Veierstahler Deadly Accident Witnesses To Tragedy We think our husbands are in there. - Unnamed woman, at the crash site You felt almost like you were dreaming, that it couldn't be real. And you could hear cars screeching in behind you. - Nathan Huenink, witness In my 21 years, this is the most horrific scene I have ever seen. - Loni Koenig, Sheboygan County sheriff I asked a sheriff's deputy if they could at least look for my brother's pickup truck in the pile of wreckage and maybe find a license plate, and the guy told me the heat was so intense, that some of the license plates melted. - Todd Behling, awaiting word on the fate of his brother A separate accident, which happened around the same time on a nearby road, left one teen dead and a second in critical condition after their car struck a semitrailer truck. The two were headed to Cedar Grove High School. Crews worked to clear I-43 of wreckage - identifying bodies and vehicles amid the tangled metal - into the night. The accident took place in Sheboygan County, just north of the Ozaukee County line, about 35 miles north of Milwaukee. Authorities believe the accident, which was reported at 7:19 a.m., happened as cars in the southbound lanes began to strike each other as some slowed down in a dense fog. As vehicles tried to get off the highway, more cars and trucks became involved, leading to a chain reaction - some witnesses reported hearing a horrific "bang, bang, bang" - that left a scene of carnage. An inferno raged, fueled by diesel fuel and a semitrailer truck loaded with paper products. Witnesses said cars may have plunged into the pileup for up to five minutes. "They were dealing with zero visibility," said State Patrol Sgt. John Jones. "Witnesses said cars just kept driving into the fog at a high rate of speed." "In my 21 years, this is the most horrific scene I have ever seen," said Sheboygan County Sheriff Loni Koenig. Officials said four other accidents occurred at nearby points of the highway, in both northbound and southbound lanes, including one in which a car rear-ended a semitrailer truck, ending up underneath it. All involved in those accidents survived. Northbound lanes of I-43 were reopened Friday evening. Southbound lanes were expected to be open by this morning, assuming the damaged roadway could be repaired. As night fell, floodlights were put in place so workers could continue removing the wreckage, even as traffic streamed along in the reopened northbound lanes. Firetrucks also were put in position, their headlights shining on the area. Workers stood holding brightly colored tarps as others worked to remove the bodies, which were carried from the scene in numbered body bags. All the bodies were removed by 7:15 p.m. Workers continued to remove mangled cars and trucks late into the night. One of the last vehicles left was a dump truck, its rear tires melted onto the roadway. Dozens of gawkers - adults, high school students and even a couple with a small child - had parked along a side road and hiked a ways to watch the workers. Trying to sort it out Authorities were still trying to sort out the sequence of events late Friday, with seven to eight accident investigators on the scene for a tricky reconstruction effort that may resemble those after plane crashes. Officials say they may have to use DNA to identify some of the victims, because bodies were burned severely in the fires and explosions. All of the victims died in their cars. One vehicle had two occupants, and the rest of those killed were sole occupants of their vehicles, said Jones of the State Patrol. No children were among the victims, he added. The names of the victims were not released because authorities were in the process Friday night of notifying the families of those killed. Of the 36 injured, seven were in critical condition and one in serious condition at area hospitals. Some 28, whom officials referred to as the "walking wounded," were treated and released. Injuries ranged from burns to broken bones. Groups of families, worried when loved ones did not make it home or to work as expected, began arriving early at the site, where firefighters were hosing down the wreckage and blue tarps were placed over vehicles in which bodies had been found. The tarps presented a startling contrast to the smoldering black and gray of the scene. "I don't know how we got out of the car," said Patrick Parise, 24, of Green Bay, who was treated at Sheboygan Memorial Hospital. He was traveling with his girlfriend, April Busse, also 24, and his little sister, Daniele Borchert, 8. The trio were on their way to Germantown to pick up Parise's other sister, Tara Tsay, 21, for a trip to Fort Lauderdale, Fla., for their grandfather's 80th birthday. "April was driving the car, and I was sitting on the passenger side sleeping," Parise said. "Just before the accident, I heard April scream, 'Oh my God.' " "I think we hit the pile, but I don't really know," he said. "I don't know how Daniele got out of the car, or how April got out. All I know is all of a sudden we were walking up the hill on the side of the freeway and there were all kinds of emergency medical people around us." Deadliest accident The accident was the deadliest in state history. In March 1999, a van carrying a magazine sales crew overturned on I- 90 near Janesville, killing seven. In February 1997, eight businessmen on an annual fishing trip were killed when their van was struck by a semitrailer truck on Highway 41 north of Slinger. In 1937 in Manitowoc County, according to state records, nine people were killed when a family headed to Door County for a Memorial Day vacation collided with a car carrying three local men along what is now I-43. Only a small child survived the crash. Heavy fog was identified as the main cause of Friday's accident, along with vehicles traveling too fast for conditions. "It was a complete whiteout," said Larry Freitag, a truck driver for Piggly Wiggly who saw the accident unfold in front of him. Freitag said he saw the boom of a Cablevision truck flip into the air. He later saw the burned wreckage of that truck. Another truck, a vehicle from Short Transportation, was burning when Freitag tried to rescue the driver. He couldn't get close. "Flames shot out and I had to back off," he said. He never saw anyone emerge from the truck, he said. Nathan Huenink, 22, of Sheboygan Falls said he was heading south on I- 43 on a motorcycle. "You couldn't see 15 feet in front of you. All of a sudden, the car in front of me, the brake lights went on and I screeched to a stop. " Huenink, whose birthday was Friday, said he darted around the car in front of him, only to hear another car slam into that one. "I could have been squished," he said, "It all happened in a split second." "I pulled in front of a big truck because I knew that one wouldn't move if it got hit. I just hid out." Huenink said he then heard a series of explosions. "There was just this black smoke billowing and billowing. . . . You felt almost like you were dreaming, that it couldn't be real. And you could hear cars screeching in behind you." Seth Schwochert, a driver for Sheboygan Beverage, said he passed people standing by the highway - a big mistake, he thought. Other drivers, though, said people waving caused them to slow down. Schwochert said he saw the fire from the crash first, and heard "bang, bang, bang," presumably more cars adding to the pile of twisted metal. At the same time, there were more crashes behind him and explosions in front. Mike Hausmer, a drywall installer driving from Sheboygan to a job in Jackson, stopped his car to avoid hitting people who were pleading for help. He heard crashes behind him as he stopped, but decided not to get out of his vehicle. "I felt better off staying in the truck," he said. The accident occurred at an otherwise unremarkable point of the highway, near mile marker 113, a spot passed each day by some 24,000 vehicles. On I-43 between Milwaukee and Green Bay, the point near Cedar Grove is where the highway passes closest to Lake Michigan, which can contribute to foggy conditions. As dozens of emergency workers - sheriff's deputies, state troopers, firefighters, ambulance crews - raced to the scene, officials closed an eight-mile stretch of I-43, from Highway 32 on the south to County Road D on the north. And when the fog lifted and the TV helicopters finally brought the scene into focus, it was unlike many other chain-reaction pileups, in which a series of cars ends up angled domino-like across lanes and in ditches. Instead, it appeared more like a bomb had exploded amid the farms and fields. Or as if the cars and trucks had been dropped from the sky, one on top of the next, with a horrible twist of blackened metal in the center and intact cars and trucks splayed across the highway at the edges. There were some skid marks on the pavement, along with personal belongings - bags, empty soda bottles, a shoe. Some of the nearby grass had been charred. The scene indicated that drivers had little, if any, warning that there were problems ahead, no sign of the fire and smoke inside the fog. "I could see a little beyond this," said Jim Lawson, a truck driver with Jelco Transportation in Manhattan, Ill., patting the hood ornament on his truck. "This is a bad stretch for fog, anywhere along the lake here," said Sherry Mulloy, who works at the nearby How-Dea Service truck stop in Belgium. On foggy mornings, when she arrives for work, Mulloy said she often sees extra trucks in the parking lot, as nervous drivers get off the highway, but she did not notice more than normal Friday. As word of the accident spread, nearby farmers and residents walked across fields of corn and alfalfa to get a glimpse of the scene, many leaning against a barbed-wire fence. Even after the smoke dissipated, its smell lingered in the crisp fall air, an acrid odor with a tinge of chemicals. Rows of firetrucks, ambulances and emergency vehicles lined the sides of the highway's northbound lanes, where some vehicles had been involved in separate accidents. Once the highway was shut down, emergency vehicles - including some from Saukville, Newburg, Random Lake and other towns - drove in from the opposite direction. Worried family members Some worried family members, searching for relatives, climbed a hill overlooking the freeway to survey the tangled mass of vehicles some 200 yards away. Garwood Staggs of Sheboygan came looking for his cousin, Laurie Sorrel, 32, of Cairo, Ill., who was visiting relatives and left for home from Sheboygan, about 19 miles north of the crash site, at 7 a.m. Friday. "I'm hoping she made it through before the accident," he said, his voice choked with emotion. "She doesn't have a cell phone. I don't know. I can't find her." Others ventured closer, to within 40 feet of the main accident site, an exceedingly grim scene. Area hospitals were flooded with calls from people checking to see if loved ones were on their injured list. "Can you slow down and spell out the name?" asked Inga Von Appen, at the reception desk of the emergency room at Columbia St. Mary's Hospital, Ozaukee Campus, in Mequon. By 11:20 a.m., when that call came in, she had already called to get a faxed list of patients at the other hospitals. "I'm not understanding you," said Von Appen, reviewing the lists. "No, he is not at our hospital and he is not at Saint Nick's or Sheboygan Memorial." Priests and pastors had already begun to mill about the waiting area, talking with families and victims, offering counseling and consolation. Pastor Will Reichmann took a walk early Friday morning, a day he hadn't planned to work, and after seeing the news on television went to the hospital. He spoke with two teenagers who survived the crash, who soon also were being comforted by their families. "Some are still in a state of shock, said Reichmann, pastor of care and counseling at First Immanuel Lutheran Church in Cedarburg. "They find themselves not only traumatized by the accident but the trauma around them." "For all of us, I think it makes us think not only of being careful but also to be ready, in case of an accident, to be ready to meet the Lord," said the Rev. Earl Slotman, pastor of Faith Reformed Church of Cedar Grove, who came to the scene looking for parishioners needing help. He said a man who attends his church narrowly escaped the accident: "He was so close up that he smelled of smoke when he came home." Bill O'Rourke of Sheboygan, a postal worker who travels I-43 daily to his job in Milwaukee, said the area where the accident occurred was often perilous for drivers because of dense fog. He travels from his home to Milwaukee in 45 minutes when conditions are good, but the trip takes two hours when fog limits visibility. "Maybe now they'll put up a sign saying, 'Entering dense fog area,' " O'Rourke said. Contributors to this report were Dan Benson, Peter Maller, Jeff Cole and Lauria Lynch-German in Sheboygan County; Linda Spice in Ozaukee County; and Greg Borowski, Jessica Hansen, Jesse Garza, Annysa Johnson, Kelly Wells and Marilynn Marchione in Milwaukee Care2 make the world greener! Your Actions Can Help! Support Strong Environmental Protections http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32649-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 00:40:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8224 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 00:40:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83250 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2002 22:44:10 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [205.188.208.136] Message-Id: <20021013224406.D12014119@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] escape...oct 19...columbus escape: special event shapeshifter - lethal crew/beta/nu-electro/breaks jack was introduced to the sound of drum and bass/ hardcore breaks in his early high school years back in 1994. since then he has been spinning every oppurtunity that he can. recently he has joined forces with Incert to produce tracks that are agining international popularity. their latest tune 'dream is destiny' has been picked up by john b and is to be released on his new label nu-electro recordings. be ready for a set that you won't soon forget. bunkee phreaks - tribal vibe/house if you havn't caught this kid at one of his residencies yet, be sure not to miss this set. his smooth style of mixin and knowledge of the decks is sure to keep you beggin for more. prepare yourself for a punishing groove that only bunkee phreaks knows how to serve lawrence viktor - strike force/breaks mike salomon - polyphonic/dmbl/techno dr. jones - tribal vibe/house ororo - love productions/house daia - bb gunn/breaks hawstyle - lethal crew/acb/d&b gunnm - techno chewie - bb gunn/black ops/d&b nate dogg - bb gunn/techno ahh yess...here we go again we've crawled out of our holes to once again bring you this two room event chalk full of some of the finest underground talent in our area. you know the rules: no drugs, markers, weapons. or dramatic B.S.! R.O.A.R. will be in full effect. this event is 18+ only, sorry kids! so have valid I.D. ready on you or you will not get in! this event will be held at club casablanca. for those of you who are of age we have 69 different martinis to choose from and the cheapest drinks downtown. call the info line the day of show for directions. admission: $10 infoline: 614.470.2719 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32650-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 02:25:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32219 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 02:25:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32197 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 02:25:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021014022532.7D4053F69@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] trick or treats....oct 25...columbus trick or treats oct 25 columbus, ohio columbus's largest halloween costume contest giving away $4000 in cash and prizes to the top 3 winners special 3 hour dj set by the one and only danny howells (www.dannyhowells.com) one of the world's most innovative and technically skilled DJs, Britain's Danny Howells has rapidly risen to the top of the electronic music industry over the last few years. his unique playing style, which has been labeled as 'deepsexyfuturistic techfunkhouse', features a mesmerizing blend of everything from progressive and tech house to breaks and drum and bass. born in hastings, howells spent his early days as warm up dj for john digweed at his bedrock parties. from that point on Howell's has proceeded to rock clubs such as Renaissance, Twilo, and Cream. highly regarded for his work as a producer and remixer, howell's meticulously constructed 10 hour sets at Arc in New York 'Global Underground: Nubreed' mix compilations. and: a special standard lounge party sponsored by 'now its dark' magazine featuring a naughty nun costume contest, psychics and tarot card readers. and: in our vip area, the columbus alive meltdown mezzanine bash featuring miss bella and selena lavinina red zone night club doors open @ 10:30 18 & over welcome $10 before midnight $15 after info: 614.470.3273 www.risemidwest.com sponsored by: rise/red zone night club miller lite now its dark magazine columbus alive _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32651-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 03:15:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42785 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 03:15:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42663 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 03:15:50 -0000 Message-ID: <005e01c27330$09a4e0a0$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: "[MW-Raves]" References: <20021014022532.7D4053F69@sitemail.everyone.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:16:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] trick or treats....oct 25...columbus {{ shepherd t } his unique playing style, which has been labeled as 'deepsexyfuturistic techfunkhouse', features a mesmerizing blend of everything from progressive and tech house to breaks and drum and bass. }} That's the same shit everybody else plays, you fuckwad. We should have a party where the whole idea is that you try to scare the shit out of the DJ while he or she is spinning and make them trainwreck - that would be some Halloween fun. So what if my antecedents don't agree? J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32652-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 03:33:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46139 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 03:33:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46122 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 03:33:56 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021014033406.6F3123C34@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] monster mash...oct 26...dayton, ohio Sat. Oct. 26th Dayton, Ohio in-the-groove.com presents MONSTER MASH costume party & contest Huda Hudia - Tampa, FL, Kaleidescope Records www.hudahudia.com 7up - Pittsburgh, PA, 5 Star Productions Shiva - Philadelphia, PA, Subterror, www.djshiva.com Nautigroove - Cincinnati, OH, In the Groove, www.in-the-groove.com Tom Sawyer - Cincinnati, OH, www.raversonly.com Kid Chaos - Columbus, OH, In the Groove, www.in-the-groove.com Tex - Shandoe, OH 513 Productions, www.sceneohio.com Confuse - Cincinnati, OH, Independent, DASSO Holy D - Cincinnati, OH, Rave Trash, Independent, www.ravetrash.net Sinister - Columbus, OH, Independent there will be a costume contest with 3 $50 prizes most creative, scariest, & brightest. party starts 9pm til 6am. as always leave your drugs, alcohol, attitudes, binkys, masks, and markers at home. come ready to dance and have a good time. you can only sit down if your feet exhausted from dancing! $15 w/ canned good. $20 w/o info: 513.665.6572 www.in-the-groove.com _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32653-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 03:41:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48024 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 03:41:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48007 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 03:41:38 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:41:46 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021014034146.82B4F3FCE@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] second annual trick or beats bash w/ bad boy bill...nov.02...columbus mythodic productions and ritual saturdays present: sat.nov.02 bad boy bill - btd: behind the decks/www.badboybill.com/chicago as you all well know this guy needs no introduction in columbus. saturday nov 2nd. bill returns to once again rock cow-town from start to finish. this show will sell out so you must get there early to gain entry to this event. steve smooth - IHR/chicago quantum - mythodic/ritual/columbus sponsored by: mix connection multimedia, inc mythodic, snug, international house records, moody, behind the decks, www.bobasic.com, am only dress code: as it should be: come as you are 18+ welcome (for both girls and guys w/ proper ID) $15 general admission before 11pm $20 after 11pm more info: 614.326.6475 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32654-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 03:54:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52145 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 03:54:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52125 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 03:54:17 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:54:28 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021014035428.445B83B57@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] escape...oct. 19...columbus escape: special event shapeshifter - lethal crew/beta/nu-electro/breaks jack was introduced to the sound of drum and bass/ hardcore breaks in his early high school years back in 1994. since then he has been spinning every oppurtunity that he can. recently he has joined forces with Incert to produce tracks that are agining international popularity. their latest tune 'dream is destiny' has been picked up by john b and is to be released on his new label nu-electro recordings. be ready for a set that you won't soon forget. bunkee phreaks - tribal vibe/house if you havn't caught this kid at one of his residencies yet, be sure not to miss this set. his smooth style of mixin and knowledge of the decks is sure to keep you beggin for more. prepare yourself for a punishing groove that only bunkee phreaks knows how to serve lawrence viktor - strike force/breaks mike salomon - polyphonic/dmbl/techno dr. jones - tribal vibe/house ororo - love productions/house daia - bb gunn/breaks hawstyle - lethal crew/acb/d&b gunnm - techno chewie - bb gunn/black ops/d&b nate dogg - bb gunn/techno ahh yess...here we go again we've crawled out of our holes to once again bring you this two room event chalk full of some of the finest underground talent in our area. you know the rules: no drugs, markers, weapons. or dramatic B.S.! R.O.A.R. will be in full effect. this event is 18+ only, sorry kids! so have valid I.D. ready on you or you will not get in! this event will be held at club casablanca. for those of you who are of age we have 69 different martinis to choose from and the cheapest drinks downtown. call the info line the day of show for directions. admission: $10 infoline: 614.470.2719 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32655-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 04:41:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60778 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 04:41:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60761 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 04:41:22 -0000 Message-ID: <009101c2733b$f6ccd940$0100a8c0@doughome> From: "Doug Burkhart" To: Cc: References: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:41:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} halo tonight at club chaos in columbus... > I've lived in Chicago for most of my life and I have never heard of this > dickfor. Then again, I like euro. i hope i am not getting the joke here. how can you not know who halo is? d > > >From: "shepherd t" > >To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org > >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: {pbcleBS} halo tonight at club chaos in columbus... > >Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:42:55 -0400 > > > >sat. oct. 12 > > > >mythodic productions and ritual saturdays present > > > >H-foundation featuring Halo - Soma/BlueM/Siesta/Champion Sound/ > >San Diego - Halo aka Brian Varga has been involved with dance > >music since he got his first job at Chicago's Hip House Records > >at the age of 9...Naturally progressing into the world of the > >DJ at the age of 12, Halo was soon a chicago favorite even > >though he wasn't old enough to get into the clubs...After the > >psychotic atmosphere of the midwest rave scene had lost its > >appeal, production seemed to be more than the next step, it > >was Halo's way of connecting with the rest of the world and a > >way to escape the increasing intensity of Chicago. > > > >working A&R for Moody records allowed Halo to connect more > >closely with other producers around the States whose work > >he respected and wanted to support...a longtime friendship > >and common interests led him to try a project with Hipp-E > >and the H-Foundation was established...the two produced a > >hybrid sound that paired the jackin' beats of Chicago with > >the smoked out sounds of the Pacific...quickly supported > >by Siesta Music in their new home of San Diego, their new > >friends at Soma in Glasgow, label giant Hooj Choons, and > >even the East Coast legends at Yoshitoshi, they drew the > >attention of the world to the self-contained music industry > >of the west coast. > > > >+ Quantum - Mythodic/CEG/Ritual/Culture 7 > > > >Dress Code: As it should be - come as you are > >18+ welcome > >$10 general admission > >$5 reduced admission for guest list > > > >1530 Bethel Rd (in the bethel center) > >Columbus, Ohio > > > > > > > > > > > >Care2 make the world greener! > >Your Actions Can Help! > >Support Strong Environmental Protections > >http://www.care2.com/go/z/2532 > > > > > >----- > >...unfortunately, this list has been over-run by a bunch of red neck, > >white trash, ghetto, geeks, dorks, and wanna-be's. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > ----- > ...unfortunately, this list has been over-run by a bunch of red neck, > white trash, ghetto, geeks, dorks, and wanna-be's. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32656-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 05:01:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64341 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 05:01:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64331 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 05:01:42 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:02:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 900/1000/N Subject: [mw] Paul Johnson - FREE!! @ Mondays - Chicago, IL TreeHouse Transmission.... The next two weeks are going to be some of the greatest yet.... With the place being remodeled in the next couple of weeks. DJ Booth, Dance Floor, New Bars and much more!! Monday October 21st - 10/21/02 Paul Johnson - House - Dust Traxx - Chicago, IL Born and raised in the birthplace of House Music, Paul Johnson who has over forty 12” releases (on Dust Traxx, Undaground Therapy, Cajual/Relief, Dance Mania, Riveria, Full House, Confidential, IHR, Peacefrog, and Djax) and six full-length albums (on Nite Life Collective, Relief, Moody, Peacefrog, and ACV), Paul is known world wide for setting and resetting the direction of House Music time and time again. “Playing With a Rubber Band”, “Just Whistle”, “Burnin’ for Your Yearnin’”, and of course, “Get, Get Down” (which, by the way, came out on Moody, Defected, Fuel, Legato, and Rise), have all become part of our hearts, our minds, and our souls. Paul promises to once again take us on a Chicago House wild ride as only he can. I.P.X. - Filtered House - TreeHouse Collective - Chicago, IL I.P.X. has toured around the Mid-West, West Coast, and parts of Canada. And for good reason! Come out see this man thrown down a tight Filtered House set! Sushi - 2-step - Brut Force - Chicago, IL FREE EVENT 21+ 2$ Rail and BudLight Drafts 2345 W. Belmont 312.409.2626 treehousecollective.net ------------------------------- Monday October 28th - 10/28/02 Paul Anthony - Disco House - Underground Construction - Chicago, IL Known for his flawless blends, inspiring trickery, and excellent track selection, Paul can definitely rock any crowd. Paul has definitely become a rave hero in the midwest. Playing from coast to coast, Paul has played alongside many acclaimed dj's, and was also premiered alongside Carl Cox, Doc Martin, and Gene Farris in the DVD version of the major motion picture PITCH BLACK. A house set definitely not to miss. Acid Man - House - Bunch Lox - Chicago, IL Regular releases on Bunch Lox and many other lables. Acid Man will show you how House music is done! Raymond Baer - Nu School Breaks - BMC - Chicago, IL FREE EVENT 21+ 2$ Rail and BudLight Drafts 2345 W. Belmont 312.409.2626 treehousecollective.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32657-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 07:08:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36191 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 07:08:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36171 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 07:08:45 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.10.40.170] From: "Liquid Prophecy" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, sespins@yahoogroups.com, dcraves@hyperreal.org, starcityraves@topica.com Bcc: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:08:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2002 07:08:59.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[9146CF30:01C27350] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] MK3's for sale... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=913432092 check 'em out =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= I.V. Miller Liquid Prophecy Productions Roanoke, Va http://www.liquidprophecy.com =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32658-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 21:57:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45466 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 21:57:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45456 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 21:57:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: phlurgg@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:57:10 -0000 From: "DJ .com" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 172.150.204.95 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Fwd: Demon Slut Costume Contest at the F.E.R. Devil's Whorehouse Party Friday 11-01-02 --- In kc-nightlife@y..., GG Jim wrote: Are you Demon Slutty enough? Prepare your Demon Slut outfit now so you'll be ready for the $100 Demon Slut costume contest at the Forced Entry Records' Devil's Whorehouse on Friday 11-01-02. Sell your soul to Forced Entry Records and Slutify your body for cash money. If Satan is your calling, you already know what to do. As LuciF.E.R is my witness I swear this contest will be judged soully on Demon Slutworthiness. We all have it in us. Trust me it feels SOOO good to let it out...... Forced Entry Records' DEVIL'S WHOREHOUSE Friday 11-01-02 $12 9pm til death do us part 17+ to enter 21 to drink blood Info lines day of: 314-XXX-PORN and 314-994-1114 Flyer at www.forcedentryrecords.com Wear a costume!! $100 DEMON SLUT COSTUME CONTEST Superstars Of Love - All Time High Experience Gigolo Records - Chicago The Halloween Thrill Orgy Tradition Continues .com NSMM/Space Banger Booty House/Electro DJ Annabelevil Industrial Area Productions Kansas City Goth/Industrial EBM/Synthpop Crypt 33 Devil's Whorehouse Live Undead Misfits Punk Spike Johnson LaughingCow Records Goth/Industrial Techno/Booty Live PA Jon Gotti FER/NSMM Jungle-DrunkenBASS D33P Thou9HT Techno Justice League Kansas City Techno to Hardcore Live PA Kyle T Superstars Of Love Demon Techno Live PA Frankenhookers Bride of Frankenstein Punk Rock Sluts Tetsuo Boogie Knights Astro Jungle Tony Foo Yong Nightcrawlers Disco/Funk house/Breakz Ashleigh Diabolic FER Gabber/Hardcore www.forcedentryrecords.com www.superstarsoflove.com GGJim www.forcedentryrecords --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com --- End forwarded message --- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32659-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 14 22:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54566 invoked by uid 1151); 14 Oct 2002 22:09:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54556 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 22:09:07 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: "Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:09:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Hunted House Party, Racine, WI - Nov 2nd - Halloween weekend Help celebrate the success of the Haunted Theater's 2nd Annual Haunted House Attraction in style, with our very own Haunted House Party... We're short on promotion time because we decided to add this date to our Haunted House at the last minute, so please help us get the word out. Thank you. This is going to be a huge event you won't want to miss! Haunted House Theme Party (costumes are optional, but not required) 16 Dj's 14,000 sq.ft.of Madness 10,000 Watt Sound System 25 ft. Video Screen w/ Psychedelic Visuals 2 Tag Lasers and Intelligent Lights [b] Demetri Nocturnal - Trance - Kenosha - Positive Thinking Management DJ I.P.X. - Filtered House - Chicago - House Fukaz, Treehouse, PoopieHead DJ 3D - Jungle - Chicago - Uptempodance, Canvas Diva D. - Techno - Madison - Poopiehead Productions, Ravaflava Kublicon - Trance - Milwaukee - Trix Productions Master Control Program - Techno - Milwaukee - Protocol, Sequence secordings Jerry Sanchez - Jungle - Racine - Urbanize Big Daddy Bud - House - Chicago - House Fukaz Funky B. - Funky House - Kenosha - House Fukaz Stratus - Musical Breaks - Kenosha - Treehouse, Spundae Dillusional - Breaks - Kenosha - Spin Out, S.O.S. Passion-Thurs. Angelus - House - Milwaukee - Drop-a-log, Wheeled @Tai Joe's Victor Orozco - Jungle - Milwaukee - Tai Joe's Scott Christopher - Techno - Racine - The Bank Resident Armondo - Jungle - Racine - Wheelie Bar G$-Money - Jungle - Kenosha - AM For life DJ Vennom - AM For life [/b] You have 3 donation options to choose from: Benefits: A. $10 limited presales only (the first 100 presale tickets sold online) Save $5 bucks (save 33%) No wait in the ticket line B. $15 presales at retail outlets / online (once the $10 ones run out) No wait in the ticket line C. $15 at the door the night of the event (you procrastinator!) You still get to attend one hell of an event! ONLINE TICKET SALES: Click on the neon green Scream Pass logo to purchase tickets online. If you don't see it on the left side of each page, click here. GROUP SALES: Package discounts may be available for groups of 5 or more. These are available by purchasing them prior to the day of the event. Email us at info@hauntedhouseparty.com for details. Put the word "group" in the subject line. Haunted Venue Do you want to try something truly new and unique? This Haunted Theater is the perfect setting for a Halloween celebration. 14,000 sq.ft. of madness awaits you. >From everyone that has been in this venue, the first reaction is that it's the perfect setting for a huge party. T he natural state of this venue provides the built-in decor to have a great time in, especially since it's set up for the Haunted Theater Haunted House Attraction. Presale Tickets By purchasing presale tickets, you will save both money and the long wait at the door. A special VIP line will be available for those who purchased presale tickets. Tickets will also be available at the door, however, you may have a long wait in line. Come as you are, or in costume. After all, it's a haunted house theme party! Costumes aren't required though. Talent There will be 16 DJ's in two rooms! T alk about off the hook entertainment! Sound Crew When you need to feel and hear the music, who do you call? AM Entertainment will be bringing 10,000 watts of bass! Lighting System / Visuals & Lazers Cutting up the air with their full arsenal of intelligent lighting & lasers, we present the world famous Sensory Systems / AM Entertainment team. They will be providing the eye candy on a 25 ft. visual screen and plenty of 3-D decorations. Decorations It's completely set up for the Haunted Theater Haunted House Attraction. How cool is it to have a party in a 14,000 sq. ft. haunted house? Beverages Plenty of beverages will be available including bottled water, Red Bull, and Gatorade. Vendors A variety of T-shirts, music Cd's, and other cool stuff will be available for purchase. Security Security will be in full force. They will be firm, but friendly. Security check will be at the main entrance. Absolutely no weapons, drugs, backpacks, alcohol, etc. will be allowed to be brought into the venue. Time The event starts at 9:00pm. It goes until the last person leaves! Ages This is an all ages event!!! Parking There will be plenty of parking surrounding the venue. People There will be plenty of people! Meet some new friends. People watch. Mingle. Or, just enjoy the entertainment. Do you still have questions? Email us at info@hauntedhouseparty.com or check out the site www.hauntedhouseparty.com 414-907-8298 Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32660-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 15 05:15:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13265 invoked by uid 1151); 15 Oct 2002 05:15:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13254 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 05:15:57 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021015001330.00bcd270@nsit-imap.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: valerie@nsit-imap.uchicago.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:16:07 -0500 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org From: valerie valenzo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] it's crime solving time!! courtesy of the formerly-known-as-mk: >http://ami.iamcal.com/index.php?site=THE+DC+SNIPER --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32661-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 15 20:13:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3655 invoked by uid 1151); 15 Oct 2002 20:13:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3641 invoked by uid 1151); 15 Oct 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Date: 15 Oct 2002 20:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20021015201300.3640.qmail@hyperreal.org> From: chad@hyperreal.org To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mw] MW-Raves FAQ Welcome to the MW-Raves archives at hyperreal.org. Please report questions & problems to mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org README last updated 05 November 2000. ______ ______ _ _ ______ ______ \ \ \ \ / / / / /\ /\\ /\ / _ \ \_____\ \ / /_____/ /_____ / \/ \\/ \/ \ \ \ \/ /______ ______/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- === MWRaves Mailing Lists ================================================ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- POSTS: mw-raves@hyperreal.org PROBLEMS: chad@hyperreal.org WEB: http://www.mw-raves.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- === legal disclaimer ===================================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- By posting to this mailing list you give consent to unlimited redistribution of your post. All messages are archived at http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/archives/ , and are publicly viewable. 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Don't assume that the inclusion of a smiley will make the recipient happy with what you say or wipe out an otherwise insulting comment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================= END ==================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent by: mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org This FAQ ripped off heavily from the acid-jazz FAQ, courtesy of: Erik.Boralv@cmd.uu.se --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32662-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 15 20:34:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15727 invoked by uid 1151); 15 Oct 2002 20:34:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15710 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 20:34:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:34:52 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20021015201300.3640.qmail@hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20021015133442.D9074-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] MW-Raves FAQ mad.out.of.date,no? chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32663-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 16 16:07:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99351 invoked by uid 1151); 16 Oct 2002 16:07:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8287 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2002 12:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20021016122732.27699.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 05:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: djlmnts To: MW_Rave_Post@yahoogroups.com, bass-state@yahoogroups.com, ChicagoRaves@yahoogroups.com, IL-Rave-Scene@yahoogroups.com, L-villeUnderground@yahoogroups.com, Louisville-raves@yahoogroups.com, michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, NEW-MICHIGAN-RAVES@yahoogroups.com, stl_raves@yahoogroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, qc-undertow@yahoogroups.com, wisconsinpartykidzunderground@yahoogroups.com, --TechnoWorld@yahoogroups.com, ClubCapeG@yahoogroups.com, Ohio_party_kids_unite@yahoogroups.com, oORaVeOo@yahoogroups.com, stlouisravescene@yahoogroups.com, ohiofun@yahoogroups.com, in-raves@yahoogroups.com, indianarave@yahoogroups.com, indybassnet@yahoogroups.com, isuravers@yahoogroups.com, iu-ravers@yahoogroups.com, Northern_Indiana_DanceCulture@yahoogroups.com, midwestpartykidzunderground@yahoogroups.com, northerninraves@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] DIRECTIONS ****Foreplay - Indianapolis, IN - THIS FRIDAY 10-18-02 **** For Maps and a better readout please visit www.eeindustries.com and go to future events, then Foreplay, the click on the directions link. Foreplay Indianapolis, IN Friday October 18th, 2002 Featuring: Booth Chocolate LMNts Dionysus Splyce Justin BL**P Location: Sahara Grotto 4107 E. Washington St. >From Louisville: Take 65 North until you get to downtown Indianapolis. Once you get into downtown take the Market St. Exit. The Market St. Exit forks in the middle and you want to take the right fork. Take Market St. Until you get to Oriental St. Make a right on Oriental. As soon as you turn right you will be at the stop light for Washington St. Turn left on Washington St. You will take that for about 3 miles. Once you pass Sherman Dr. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your right hand side. Turn right and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From St. Louis: Take 70 East until you get to downtown Indianapolis. Once you get into downtown take the Market St. Exit. The Market St. Exit forks in the middle and you want to take the right fork. Take Market St. Until you get to Oriental St. Make a right on Oriental. As soon as you turn right you will be at the stop light for Washington St. Turn left on Washington St. You will take that for about 3 miles. Once you pass Sherman Dr. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your right hand side. Turn right and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From Cincinnati: Take 74 West until you get to 465 North. Take 465 North until you get to the Washington St. Exit. Turn Right off the exit so that you are going west on Washington St. Go down about 5 miles and once you pass Linwood Ave. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your left hand side. Turn left and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From Dayton / Columbus: Take 70 West into Indianapolis. Get off on the Shadeland Exit. Turn right on Shadeland so that you are going South on Shadeland. Take the Washington St. Exit and go West on Washington St. Go down about 5 miles and once you pass Linwood Ave. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your left hand side. Turn left and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From Ft. Wayne / Muncie: Take 69 South until you get to 465 South. Take 465 south until you get to the Washington St. Exit. Go West on Washington St. towards downtown. Go down about 5 miles and once you pass Linwood Ave. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your left hand side. Turn left and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From Chicago / Lafayette, IN: Take 65 South until you get to 465 East. Take 465 East until you get to the Washington St. Exit. Go West on Washington St. towards downtown. Go down about 5 miles and once you pass Linwood Ave. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your left hand side. Turn left and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From South Bend, IN / Kokomo, IN Take US31 South until you get to 465 East. Take 465 East until you get to the Washington St. Exit. Go West on Washington St. towards downtown. Go down about 5 miles and once you pass Linwood Ave you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your left hand side. Turn left and follow the street back to the parking lot. >From Bloomington, IN: Take 37 North until you get to 465 East. Take 465 East until you get to 65 North. Take 65 North until you get to downtown Indianapolis. Once you get into downtown take the Market St. Exit. The Market St. Exit forks in the middle and you want to take the right fork. Take Market St. Until you get to Oriental St. Make a right on Oriental. As soon as you turn right you will be at the stop light for Washington St. Turn left on Washington St. You will take that for about 3 miles. Once you pass Sherman Dr. you will see a blue sign for the Sahara Grotto on your right hand side. Turn right and follow the street back to the parking lot. Info Line: 317-592-1873 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32664-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 16 18:33:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15573 invoked by uid 1151); 16 Oct 2002 18:33:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15559 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2002 18:33:41 -0000 From: NothingARN@aol.com Message-ID: <122.19063665.2adf0b05@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:33:41 EDT To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_122.19063665.2adf0b05_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10626 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Dissociation - Friday, October 25 - Des Moines --part1_122.19063665.2adf0b05_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dissociative Records and Sublunary Artist Management bring you: DISSOCIATION 1. The process by which a compound body breaks into its primary elements. 2. Des Moines' first all techno event for the true heads to celebrate the launch of the Dissociative label. Friday October 25th, 2002 9p-5a Des Moines, Iowa All Ages Event 24 hour infoline: 515.830.1893 www.SublunaryAM.com Adam Jay (live pa) Primevil, Zync, Placktown Sounds, www.azurerecords.com Indianapolis If you pay any attention at all to techno, you know this guy is on point, solidly bangin' out release after release on many highly respected European techno labels, his own Azure imprint, and soon Des Moines' own Dissociative. His records can be heard in the sets of the world's biggest techno djs, including Richie Hawtin's forthcoming third "DE9" mix cd. Don't miss this rare live appearance. (No records, no turn tables, just a man and his machines.) Offtrack www.technojusticeleague.org, www.deepfixrecords.com Kansas City It's been over 2 years since Des Moines has been rocked by this Kansas City techno mastermind. He's one of the founding members of the Techno Justice Leage and is the techno buyer for Deep Fix, KCMO's biggest and best store specializing in dance vinyl. With all his knowledge and techno experience, you can expect nothing but the best from Mr. Offtrack. nn0th1ng Dissociative, www.sublunaryam.com, Invasion, TJL Des Moines As one of the founding members of Dissociative, the Invasion, and Sublunary Artist Management nnothing has been involved in bringing serious techno to Iowa, and spreading the sound across the country. As a promoter all 25 of his events have featured techno from around the world, and as a dj he's performed at over 85 events in 10 states. This will be his first appearance in the Des Moines metro area in over a year. Mindtrap Midwest Dreams Des Moines Nemesis XO Isolated Entertainment Ames Troy Ponyboy Productions Urbandale All Techno!!! All Night!!! All Right!!! $10 at the door info: 515.830.1893 www.sublunaryam.com --part1_122.19063665.2adf0b05_boundary-- From mw-raves-return-32665-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 17 01:39:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73221 invoked by uid 1151); 17 Oct 2002 01:39:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73210 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 01:39:09 -0000 Message-ID: <014a01c2757e$045b0c00$baf9a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: "[MW-Raves]" References: <122.19063665.2adf0b05@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:39:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Dissociation - Friday, October 25 - Des Moines {{ } Des Moines' first all techno event for the true heads to celebrate the launch of the Dissociative label. }} What's a "true head?" Are you related to the Emperor of China? J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32666-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 17 05:26:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42035 invoked by uid 1151); 17 Oct 2002 05:26:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42012 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 05:26:08 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:25:44 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021017052544.A90303C4E@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] woody harrelson an american tired of american lies... I'm an American tired of American lies=20 Woody Harrelson Thursday October 17, 2002 The Guardian=20 The man who drives me to and from work is named Woody too. A relief to me, = as it minimises the chance of my forgetting his name. I call him Woodman an= d he calls me Wood. He has become my best friend here, even though he's ups= et that I have quit drinking beer. He's smart, funny, and there's nothing h= e hasn't seen in 33 years behind the wheel of his black cab. He drove me fo= r a while before I felt confident he liked me; he doesn't like people easil= y, especially if they have a rap for busting up black cabs.=20 Woodman and I agree about a lot of things, but one thing we can never agree= about is Iraq. He thinks the only language Saddam understands is brute for= ce. I don't believe we should be bombing cities in our quest for one man. W= e've killed a million Iraqis since the start of the Gulf war - mostly by bl= ocking humanitarian aid. Let's stop now. Thankfully, most of the Brits I ta= lk to about the war are closer to me than to Woodman. Only your prime minis= ter doesn't seem to have noticed.=20 I have been here three months doing a play in the West End. I am having the= time of my life. I love England, the people, the parks, the theatre. The p= lay is great and the audiences have been a dream. Probably I should just re= lax, be happy and talk about the weather, but this war is under my skin - i= t affects my sleep.=20 I remember playing basketball with an Iraqi in the late 80s while Iran and = Iraq were at war. I didn't know at the time that the US and Britain were su= pplying weapons to both sides. I asked why they were always at war with eac= h other and he said something that stayed with me: "If it were up to the pe= ople, there would be peace. It's the governments that create war." And now = my government is creating its second war in less than a year. No; war requi= res two combatants, so I should say "its second bombing campaign".=20 I went to the White House when Harvey Weinstein was showing Clinton the mov= ie Welcome to Sarejevo, which I was in. I got a few moments alone with Clin= ton. Saddam throwing out the weapons inspectors was all over the news and I= asked what he was going to do. His answer was very revealing. He said: "Ev= erybody is telling me to bomb him. All the military are saying, 'You gotta = bomb him.' But if even one innocent person died, I couldn't bear it." And I= looked in his eyes and I believed him. Little did I know he was blocking h= umanitarian aid at the time, allowing the deaths of thousands of innocent p= eople.=20 I am a father, and no amount of propaganda can convince me that half a mill= ion dead children is acceptable "collateral damage". The fact is that Sadda= m Hussein was our boy. The CIA helped him to power, as they did the Shah of= Iran and Noriega and Marcos and the Taliban and countless other brutal tyr= ants. The fact is that George Bush Sr continued to supply nerve gas and tec= hnology to Saddam even after he used it on Iran and then the Kurds in Iraq.= While the Amnesty International report listing countless Saddam atrocities= , including gassing and torturing Kurds, was sitting on his desk, Bush Sr p= ushed through a $2bn "agricultural" loan and Thatcher gave hundreds of mill= ions in export credit to Saddam. The elder Bush then had the audacity to qu= ote the Amnesty reports to garner support for his oil war.=20 A decade later, Shrub follows the same line: "We have no quarrel with the I= raqi people." I'm sure half a million Iraqi parents are scratching their he= ads over that. I'm an American tired of lies. And with our government, it's= mostly lies.=20 The history taught in our schools is scandalous. We grew up believing that = Columbus actually discovered America. We still celebrate Columbus Day. Colu= mbus was after one thing only - gold. As the natives were showering him wit= h gifts and kindness, he wrote in his diary, "They do not bear arms ... The= y have no iron ... With 50 men we could subjugate them all and make them do= whatever we want." Columbus is the perfect symbol of US foreign policy to = this day.=20 This is a racist and imperialist war. The warmongers who stole the White Ho= use (you call them "hawks", but I would never disparage such a fine bird) h= ave hijacked a nation's grief and turned it into a perpetual war on any non= -white country they choose to describe as terrorist.=20 To the men in Washington, the world is just a giant Monopoly board. Oddly e= nough, Americans generally know how the government works. The politicians d= o everything they can for the people - the people who put them in power. Th= e giant industries that are polluting our planet as well as violating human= rights worldwide are the ones nearest and dearest to the hearts of America= n politicians.=20 But in wartime people lose their senses. There are flags and yellow ribbons= and posters and every media outlet is beating the war drum and even sensib= le people can hear nothing else. In the US, God forbid you should suggest t= he war is unjust or that dropping cluster bombs from 30,000ft on a city is = a cowardly act. When TV satirist Bill Maher made some dissenting remarks ab= out the bombing of Afghanistan, Disney pulled the plug on him. In a country= that lauds its freedom of speech, a word of dissent can cost you your job.= =20 I read in a paper here about a woman who held out the part of her taxes tha= t would go to the war effort. Something like 17%. I like that idea, though = in the US it would have to be more like 50%. If you consider money as a for= m of energy, then we see half our taxes and half the US government's energy= focused on war and weapons of mass destruction. Over the past 30 years, th= is amounts to more than ten trillion dollars. Imagine that money going to p= reserving rainforest or contributing to a sustainable economy (as opposed t= o the dinosaur tit we are currently in the process of sucking dry).=20 I give in to Woodman, and we stop for a few beers. He asks me what I'd do i= n Bush's shoes. Easy: I'd honour Kyoto. Join the world court. I'd stop subs= idising earth rapers like Monsanto, Dupont and Exxon. I'd shut down the nuc= lear power plants. So I already have $200bn saved from corporate welfare. I= 'd save another $100bn by stopping the war on non-corporate drugs. And I'd = cut the defence budget in half so they'd have to get by on a measly $200bn = a year. I've already saved half a billion bucks by saying no to polluters a= nd warmongers.=20 Then I'd give $300bn back to the taxpayers. I'd take the rest and pay the p= eople teaching our children what they deserve. I'd put $100bn into alternat= ive fuels and renewable energy. I'd revive the Chemurgy movement, which mad= e the farmer the root of the economy, and make paper and fuel from wheat st= raw, rice straw and hemp. Not only would I attend, I'd sponsor the next Ear= th Summit. And, of course, I'd give myself a fat raise.=20 Woodman drops me at home and I ask if he likes my ideas. He offers a reluct= ant "yes". As he pulls away he yells out, "But I'd never vote for a man who= can't handle a few pints at the end of the day!"=20 =B7 Woody Harrelson appears in On an Average Day at the Comedy Theatre, Pan= ton Street, London SW1 until November 3. Box office: 020-7369 1731.=20 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Di= stance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32667-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 17 05:41:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44246 invoked by uid 1151); 17 Oct 2002 05:41:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44236 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 05:41:05 -0000 Message-Id: <3DAE4D94.CDDB418D@tc.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 00:41:40 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20021017052544.A90303C4E@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] woody harrelson an american tired of american lies... Oh yeah, well Dan Savage sez yes to war on Iraq. http://www.thestranger.com/2002-10-17/feature2.html Tom shepherd t wrote: blah blah blah --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32668-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 17 09:30:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93275 invoked by uid 1151); 17 Oct 2002 09:30:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93252 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 09:30:14 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021017092948.4A40F4118@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} NRR: North Korea comes out of the closet... >--- "Brian" wrote: >>http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/10/16/us.nkorea/index.html >> >> >>hmmm.... >> >> >>bc --- shepherd t wrote: >big whoop! > >america has 7600 nuclear missile heads! > >and we have the audacity to come down on other >nations for having nuclear missiles?! > >who's the idiot who rectracted the 1972 abm >treaty to restart the cold war in the first place?! > >all for the color of money!! > >war profiteering!! > >god damn white horse of conquering!! > >we spent 3 trillion so far in the anti-terrorism >campaign already!! > >we've spent more money on war, than for the farmers >who suffered from the droughts, the 9/11 victims, >the forest fire victims, the storm victims in the >south, the 10 million who were laid off, or the >countless minorities who were racially profiled >and stereotyped because there are nazi white >supremist war mongers in power!! > >hell, these idiots have spent more money trying to >set me up with their god damn sins than even considering >implementing even one of the 60 free world solutions >i have provided!! > >every industry across the board has suffered because >of the war propaganda!! > >and now these idiots are planning on another war with >korea after iraq?! > >why doesn't bush just flat out admit that he is caesar >and he is the anti-christ?! > _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32669-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 17 17:34:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47609 invoked by uid 1151); 17 Oct 2002 17:34:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47599 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 17:34:44 -0000 Message-Id: <3DAEF4CA.4B504CA2@tc.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:35:06 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20021017052544.A90303C4E@sitemail.everyone.net> <3DAE4D94.CDDB418D@tc.umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] woody harrelson an american tired of american lies... Oops, I sent the wrong column. The better one was at http://www.thestranger.com/2002-07-04/ex3.html Tom Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: > Oh yeah, well Dan Savage sez yes to war on Iraq. > > http://www.thestranger.com/2002-10-17/feature2.html > > Tom > > shepherd t wrote: > > blah blah blah > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32670-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 18 02:01:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3277 invoked by uid 1151); 18 Oct 2002 02:01:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3255 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 02:01:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:01:58 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021018020158.0057445A1@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] cia director admits true reason behind terrorism... Tenet finally admitted the true reason behind the terrorist attacks, from drudgereport.com... Tenet also said the CIA lost 18 percent of its budget and 16 percent of its personnel in the post-Cold War cutbacks. Training new intelligence officers to replace them will take time, he said. But even before he spoke, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Whip, said "it's not enough to say we didn't have enough money or enough people. No one does. That's always the case. It's about establishing priorities." --- exactly as i had said CIA planned and executed terrorist attacks, with false propaganda to increase their own budgets at the loss of every american business and every non-white citizen in the united states of america...all because an organization was excessively corrupt, excessively manipulative, excessively militant, and excessively deceptive ala the brotherhood of the snake, the possesors of the forbidden fruit of knowledge, the ones who not only trained, but armed bin laden as well as all the other terrorists!! _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32671-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 18 19:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20578 invoked by uid 1151); 18 Oct 2002 19:15:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20568 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 19:15:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20021018191556.20400.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:15:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Eden To: mw_rave_post@yahoogroups.com, iu-ravers@yahoogroups.com, ohiofun@yahoogroups.com, detroitRAVErs@yahoogroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, bass-state@yahoogroups.com, stl_raves@yahoogroups.com, northerninraves@yahoogroups.com, illinois-raves@yahoogroups.com, stlouisravescene@yahoogroups.com, ClubCapeG@yahoogroups.com, Ohio-raves@yahoogroups.com, l-villeunderground@yahoogroups.com, louisville-raves@yahoogroups.com, proravers@yahoogroups.com, oORaVeOo@yahoogroups.com, IU-B-Events@yahoogroups.com, il-rave-scene@yahoogroups.com, MidwestMusicForum@yahoogroups.com, new-michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, in-raves@yahoogroups.com, chicagoraves@yahoogroups.com, Chicagoplur@yahoogroups.com, --technoworld@onelist.com, michigan-raves@yahoogroups.com, wisconsinpartykidzunderground@yahoogroups.com, chicagoraversparadise@yahoogroups.com, pittsburghclevelandravescene@yahoogroups.com, indybassnet@yahoogroups.com, isuravers@yahoogroups.com, indianarave@yahoogroups.com, ohio_party_kids_unite@yahoogroups.com, puraves@ecn.purdue.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-21413491-1034968556=:20351" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Dark Seduction-Max Graham-10/31 --0-21413491-1034968556=:20351 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eden presents................ Dark SeductionThursday 10.31.02 Max Graham / Ottawa, Canada / Hope Recordings, Balance Promote Group Once again, Eden is taking it to the next level. Our Halloween treat to you, Hope Recording’s own DJ and producer, Max Graham. Formerly Oakenfold’s right hand man, Max has risen to world renowned status through his constant touring and cd releases including the wildly popular Transport 4 double cd compilation on Kinetic Records. Max has played out with the likes of label-mate Timo Maas and Paul Van Dyk and has several of his releases featured on compilations from Tiesto to Paul Oakenfold. He has played everywhere - Asia, Israel, England, Mexico, Australia, Ibiza and all over North America - with residencies at Circus in LA, Nikita in San Francisco, Sona in Montreal, Gatecrasher in Sheffield, UK. Currently one of Canada’s most prized exports, join us and our tour guide, Max Graham, as we find Dark Seduction. Costume Contest Get into the "spirit" and into a costume. This is the one night that you can be whatever the hell you want to be. ALL NIGHT. 1st place: $100 2nd place: $50 3rd place: $50 Old School Slumber Party The second floor will be transformed into a classic slumber party with classic horror flicks on the big screen, treats and of course, potent witches brew for all the guests. Details: Additional: Resident performances by Dennis Roseth (Balance Promote Group/Velocity Promote Group) and Seth and Mack (Evolving Records/In the Groove) Giveaways: Free Glowsticks to the first 50 freaks Date: Thursday, October 31st, 2002 Price: $10.00 Where: Eden - 6235 N. Guilford Ave.-Indianapolis, IN 317-475-1588 When: Doors @ 9:00pm, Vinyl @ 9:00pm til 3:00am Ages: 21+ Info Line: 317.251.1030 www.maxgraham.com www.balancepromote.com www.velocitypromote.com www.evolvingrecords.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com --0-21413491-1034968556=:20351-- From mw-raves-return-32672-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 19 12:20:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97452 invoked by uid 1151); 19 Oct 2002 12:20:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97442 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2002 12:20:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 05:20:19 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021019051810.Y97316-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] nice! cddb has the track names in it for aphex twin's selected ambient works v2...i always wondered what those were. chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32673-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 20 17:23:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46523 invoked by uid 1151); 20 Oct 2002 17:23:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Delivered-To: moderator for mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9026 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2002 12:25:38 -0000 Reply-To: Message-ID: <014a26d70d4c$3326d5b1$8ca40aa0@ogxfqe> From: To: Cc: , , , , , Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:00:05 -0000 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A7_80C07E6A.A7251E56" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] DRAMATIC WEIGHT LOSS and RENEWED HEALTH 6936Vimz4-703yoKr5580V-21 ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_80C07E6A.A7251E56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SG93IGhhdmUgeW91IGJlZW4/DQoNCklmIHlvdSdyZSBsaWtlIG1lLCB5b3Un dmUgdHJpZWQgRVZFUllUSElORyB0byBsb3NlDQp3ZWlnaHQuoCBJIGtub3cg aG93IHlvdSBmZWVsIC0gdGhlIHNwZWNpYWwgZGlldHMsDQptaXJhY2xlIHBp bGxzLCBhbmQgZmFuY3kgZXhlcmNpc2UgZXF1aXBtZW50IG5ldmVyIGhlbHBl ZA0KbWUgbG9zZSBhIHBvdW5kIGVpdGhlci6gIEl0IHNlZW1lZCBsaWtlIHRo ZSBoYXJkZXIgSSB0cmllZCwNCnRoZSBiaWdnZXIgSSBnb3QsIHVudGlsIEkg aGVhcmQgYWJvdXQgYSBwcm9kdWN0IGNhbGxlZA0KRXh0cmVtZSBQb3dlciBQ bHVzLg0KDQpZb3UncmUgcHJvYmFibHkgdGhpbmtpbmcgdG8geW91cnNlbGYs ICJPaCBnZWV6LCBub3QgYW5vdGhlcg0KbWlyYWNsZSBkaWV0IHBpbGwhIqAg TGlrZSB5b3UsIEkgd2FzIHNrZXB0aWNhbCBhdCBmaXJzdCwgYnV0IA0KbXkg c2lzdGVyIHN3b3JlIGl0IGhlbHBlZCBoZXIgbG9zZSAyMyBwb3VuZHMgaW4g anVzdCB0d28gd2Vla3MsIA0Kc28gSSB0b2xkIGhlciBJJ2QgZ2l2ZSBpdCBh IHNob3QuoCBJIG1lYW4sIHRoZXJlIHdhcyBub3RoaW5nIA0KdG8gbG9zZSBl eGNlcHQgYSBsb3Qgb2Ygd2VpZ2h0IaAgTGV0IG1lIHRlbGwgeW91LCBpdCB3 YXMNCnRoZSBiZXN0IGRlY2lzaW9uIEkndmUgZXZlciBtYWRlLiBQZXJpb2Qu oCBTaXggbW9udGhzIGxhdGVyLA0KYXMgSSdtIHdyaXRpbmcgdGhpcyBtZXNz YWdlIHRvIHlvdSwgSSd2ZSBnb25lIGZyb20gMzU1IHBvdW5kcw0KdG8gMjEw IHBvdW5kcywgYW5kIEkgaGF2ZW4ndCBjaGFuZ2VkIG15IGV4ZXJjaXNlIHJv dXRpbmUgb3IgZGlldA0KYXQgYWxsLqAgWWVzLCBJIHN0aWxsIGVhdCBwaXp6 YSwgYW5kIGxvdHMgb2YgaXQhDQoNCkkgd2FzIHNvIGhhcHB5IHdpdGggdGhl IHJlc3VsdHMgdGhhdCBJIGNvbnRhY3RlZCB0aGUgbWFudWZhY3R1cmVyDQph bmQgZ290IHBlcm1pc3Npb24gdG8gcmVzZWxsIGl0LiAgSSB3YW50IHRvIGhl bHAgb3RoZXIgcGVvcGxlIGxvc2UNCndlaWdodCBsaWtlIEkgZGlkLCBiZWNh dXNlIGl0IGRvZXMgc28gbXVjaCBmb3IgeW91ciBzZWxmLWVzdGVlbSwgbm90 DQp0byBtZW50aW9uIHlvdXIgaGVhbHRoLiAgSSBnaXZlIHlvdSBteSBwZXJz b25hbCBwbGVkZ2UgdGhhdCBFeHRyZW1lDQpQb3dlciBQbHVzIGFic29sdXRl bHkgV0lMTCBXT1JLIEZPUiBZT1UuoCBJZiBpdCBkb2Vzbid0LCB5b3UgY2Fu IA0KcmV0dXJuIGl0IGFueSB0aW1lIGZvciBhIGZ1bGwgcmVmdW5kLg0KDQpJ bnRlcmVzdGVkLCB2aXNpdCBodHRwOi8vODEuOS4wLjEwMi9kaWV0L2luZGV4 LnNodG1sDQoNCklmIHlvdSBhcmUgZnJ1c3RyYXRlZCB3aXRoIHRyeWluZyBv dGhlciBwcm9kdWN0cywgbm90IGhhdmluZyANCmFueSBzdWNjZXNzLCBhbmQg anVzdCBub3QgZ2V0dGluZyB0aGUgcmVzdWx0cyB5b3Ugd2VyZSBwcm9taXNl ZCwNCnRoZW4gSSByZWNvbW1lbmQgdGhlIG9ubHkgcHJvZHVjdCB0aGF0IHdv cmtlZCBmb3IgbWUgLSBFWFRSRU1FDQpQT1dFUiBQTFVTLg0KDQpZb3UncmUg cHJvYmFibHkgYXNraW5nIHlvdXJzZWxmLCAiT2ssIHNvIGhvdyBkb2VzIHRo aXMgc3R1ZmYNCmFjdHVhbGx5IHdvcms/Ig0KDQpFeHRyZW1lIFBvd2VyIFBs dXMgY29udGFpbnMgTGlwb3Ryb3BpYyBmYXQgYnVybmVycyBhbmQgZXBoZWRy YSB3aGljaCANCmlzIHNjaWVudGlmaWNhbGx5IHByb3ZlbiB0byBpbmNyZWFz ZSBtZXRhYm9saXNtIGFuZCBjYXVzZSByYXBpZCANCndlaWdodCBsb3NzLiBO byAiaG9jdXMgcG9jdXMiIGluIHRoZXNlIHBpbGxzIC0ganVzdCBSRVNVTFRT LCBSRVNVTFRTLCANClJFU1VMVFMhISANCg0KSGVyZSBpcyB0aGUgYm90dG9t IGxpbmUgLi4uDQoNCkkgY2FuIGhlbHAgeW91IGxvc2UgMTAtMTUgcG91bmRz IHBlciB3ZWVrIG5hdHVyYWxseSwgd2l0aG91dA0KZXhlcmNpc2luZyBhbmQg d2l0aG91dCBoYXZpbmcgdG8gZWF0IHJpY2UgY2FrZXMgYWxsIGRheS6gIA0K SnVzdCB0cnkgaXQgZm9yIG9uZSBtb250aCAtIHRoZXJlJ3Mgbm90aGluZyB0 byBsb3NlLCBhbmQgZXZlcnl0aGluZyANCnRvIGdhaW4uoCBZb3Ugd2lsbCBs b3NlIHdlaWdodCBmYXN0IC0gR1VBUkFOVEVFRC6gIFRoYXQgaXMgbXkNCnBs ZWRnZSB0byB5b3UuoCANCg0KVG8gb3JkZXIgRXh0cmVtZSBQb3dlciBQbHVz IG9uIG91ciBzZWN1cmUgc2VydmVyLCBqdXN0IGNsaWNrDQpvbiB0aGlzIGxp bmsgaHR0cDovLzgxLjkuMC4xMDIvZGlldC9vcmRlci5zaHRtbA0KDQpUbyBz ZWUgd2hhdCBzb21lIG9mIG91ciBjdXN0b21lcnMgaGF2ZSBzYWlkIGFib3V0 IHRoaXMgcHJvZHVjdCwgDQp2aXNpdCBodHRwOi8vODEuOS4wLjEwMi9kaWV0 L3Rlc3RpbW9uaWFscy5zaHRtbA0KDQpUbyBzZWUgYSBsaXN0IG9mIGluZ3Jl ZGllbnRzIGFuZCBmb3IgbW9yZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbg0Kb24gdGVzdCBzdHVk aWVzIGFuZCBob3cgaXQgd2lsbCBoZWxwIHlvdSBsb3NlIHdlaWdodCwgdmlz aXQgDQpodHRwOi8vODEuOS4wLjEwMi9kaWV0L2luZ3JlMS5zaHRtbA0KDQoq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqDQpJZiB5b3UgZG8gbm90IHdpc2ggdG8gcmVjZWl2 ZSBmdXJ0aGVyIG1haWxpbmdzLCBwbGVhc2UgdmlzaXQgDQpodHRwOi8vODEu OS4wLjEwMi9kaWV0L3JlbW92ZS5odG0NCioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioNCjk1 MTlObVZYMC01OTVTRGVpODQ1M0lwdloyLTkyM3FPcm8wMzYzTEtoQTEtNjk1 TFhHWDAzMDdSVWJhOS02MzNsNjA= From mw-raves-return-32674-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 21 19:23:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9067 invoked by uid 1151); 21 Oct 2002 19:23:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9034 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2002 19:23:03 -0000 Message-ID: <1916920021012119920506@antisocial.com> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 4 X-EM-Registration: #01E0520310450300B900 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: My Own Email v4.00 From: "baseck" To: idm@hyperreal.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, gabber@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:09:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] broklyn beats tour -oct 24th milwaukee hey everyone. broklyn beats tour comes to milwaukee! thurs oct 24th - 2002 CRITERION DOILY and 1-SPEED BIKE (of god speed you black emperor, canada) along with milwaukee locals: DESTRO (zod records) BASECK (darkmatter, just moved from los angeles) for 2 shows! for the kiddies: 8pm @ the eigthtnote (@ the uwm campus) for the drunks! 11pm @ riverwest commons hope to see you there! -baseck _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32675-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 07:28:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76274 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 07:28:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76264 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 07:28:58 -0000 From: NothingARN@aol.com Message-ID: <167.1612eada.2ae7a9c0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:29:04 EDT To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_167.1612eada.2ae7a9c0_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 180 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Dissociation (updates) - Friday, October 25 - Des Moines --part1_167.1612eada.2ae7a9c0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dissociative Records and Sublunary Artist Management bring you: DISSOCIATION 1.=A0 The process by which a compound body breaks into its primary elements. 2.=A0 Des Moines' first all techno event for the true heads to celebrate the= =20 launch of the Dissociative label. Friday=20 October 25th, 2002 9p-5a Des Moines, Iowa All Ages Event 24 hour infoline: 515.830.1893 www.SublunaryAM.com Adam Jay (live pa)=20 Primevil, Zync, Placktown Sounds, www.azurerecords.com Indianapolis If you pay any attention at all to techno, you know this guy is on point,=20 solidly bangin' out release after release on many highly respected European=20 techno labels, his own Azure imprint, and soon Des Moines' own Dissociative.= =A0=20 His records can be heard in the sets of the world's biggest techno djs,=20 including Richie Hawtin's forthcoming third "DE9" mix cd.=A0 Don't miss this= =20 rare live appearance.=A0 (No records, no turn tables, just a man and his=20 machines.) Offtrack www.technojusticeleague.org, www.deepfixrecords.com Kansas City It's been over 2 years since Des Moines has been rocked by this Kansas City=20 techno mastermind.=A0 He's one of the founding members of the Techno Justice= =20 Leage and is the techno buyer for Deep Fix, KCMO's biggest and best store=20 specializing in dance vinyl.=A0 With all his knowledge and techno experience= ,=20 you can expect nothing but the best from Mr. Offtrack. nn0th1ng Dissociative, www.sublunaryam.com, Invasion, TJL Des Moines As one of the founding members of Dissociative, the Invasion, and Sublunary=20 Artist Management nnothing has been involved in bringing serious techno to=20 Iowa, and spreading the sound across the country.=A0=A0=A0=20 As a promoter all 25 of his events have featured techno from around the=20 world, and as a dj he's performed at over 85 events in 10 states.=A0 This wi= ll=20 be his first appearance in the Des Moines metro area in over a year.=20 Mindtrap Midwest Dreams Des Moines Nemesis XO Isolated Entertainment Ames Troy Ponyboy Productions Urbandale PLUS SPECIAL GUEST: Isaac Anthony The Teknophile Network Minneapolis=20 (first Iowa appearance) Isaac has been making quite a name for himself in the Minneapolis techno=20 scene over the past few years.=A0 He's played many of Minneapolis' hottest=20 spots including First Avenue's VIP room for "Beatopia" and has been featured= =20 at such high profile midwest events as Drop Bass Network's "Second Coming"=20 New Year's Eve party and their "Even Furthur" festivals.=A0 His tight tribal= =20 beats and innovative mixing techniques will keep your minds and bodies=20 movin'. All Techno!!! All Night!!! All Right!!! $10 at the door info: 515.830.1893 www.sublunaryam.com=20 Tentative Timeslots (subject to slight adjustments) 9-10 Mindtrap 10-11 Nemesis XO 11-12 Troy 12-1:15 Isaac Anthony 1:15-2:15 Adam Jay (live) 2:15-3:45 Offtrack 3:45-??? Nnothing plus be on the lookout for more surprise announcements (like maybe an old school chill room) --part1_167.1612eada.2ae7a9c0_boundary-- From mw-raves-return-32676-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 19:11:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26449 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 19:11:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26414 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 19:11:12 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.119.195.119] From: "DJ Tronic" To: dcraves@hyperreal.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:11:18 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2002 19:11:18.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[F728EC10:01C27AC7] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Tonight LIVE! *INFECTIOUS Radio Returns.. w/LUNA-C!! So.. did you miss us?!? After a long hiatus Infectious is back with a vengence! This week is going to be the first of many broadcasts that show that we here at Infectious really know how to rock it. On this week's return to the internet airwaves we've got our local co-hosts Reese and Tronic rockin the decks with a special guest set from one of hardcore's most well known djs. So if you've missed our show as much as we have you'll be sure to tune in to hear all your favorite stuff that only the Infectious crew can bring you. On WEDNESDAY night, 10/23/02, INFECTIOUS will feature the following lineup: 6:00pm - 7:00pm (9:00pm - 10:00pm EST): DJ Reese (Liquidvinyldjs.com, SF) Infectious' young co-host has proven that he can hold his own alongside the big boys. If you caught his set at Happy Together 2 that should be reason enough to show that age ain't nothin but a number. Tune in to catch a bouncy set of new tunes and a few unreleased gems. 7:00pm - 8:00pm (10:00pm - 11:00pm EST): Luna C aka Cru-L-T, Radiophonic Oddity, Future Primitive, etc. (KFA, Knite Force, Remix Records; UK) This man needs no introduction. After a slammin set at Happy Together 2, we've decided to give a special treat to all those who didn't get to see one of our personal favorites in person. Who better to kick off Infectious' first week back than the breakbeat king himself, Luna C. This set is chalked full of goodies and rare one-offs that will leave you in awe. So if you missed him at Happy Together 2 or if you just want to hear him work his magic again, be sure not to miss this set. 8:00pm - 9:00pm (11:00pm - 12:00am EST): DJ Tronic (Liquidvinyldjs.com, Resistance Recordings, Hatorade Massive; SF) DJ Tronic. What else can we say besides DAMN?!?!? If you like your music bangin and hard, this is the guy to listen for. His record label Resistance Recordings is gaining him respect all across the globe, along with special guest appearances on radio shows both here locally on World Renown Housenation 94.9 and on several radio shows in Spain! Be sure to tune in for the same hand bangin beats Tronic has been giving you time and time again. **Tune in at: http://www.liquidvinyldjs.com/live.pls ! ... or... if that doesn't work.. try this: http://mp3stream.halogen.org/cgi-bin/nph-listing and click on the *INFECTIOUS!* Link! **We are on the AIM Instant Message System.. you can reach us throughout the show at: AIM: happycore510 or Infectious510 As always, we will be doing our usual giveaways, shout outs, dedications and a bunch of other random stuff throughout the broadcast. Expect the good times that we've brought you in the past! **Much thanks to the Halogen Radio Network for the space! Visit them at http://www.halogen.org ! _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32677-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 19:18:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32904 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 19:18:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32893 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 19:18:28 -0000 Message-ID: <004101c27ac8$e8530d00$736b2c42@oemcomputer> From: "Mike Braaten" To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:18:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] this list I just signed on this weekend and have thus-far recieved only two promos from this list. Is there so little going on with you, my mid-western counterparts that there is no more discussion? Is there another list that is more lively, or is this the pinnacle of on-line RR information for the great Fly-Over States.... This Easterner needs to know! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32678-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 20:04:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62780 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 20:04:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62770 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 20:04:02 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.215.48.216] From: "dan sharp" To: braaten@erols.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:04:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2002 20:04:08.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[58FA1AC0:01C27ACF] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list What List??? >From: "Mike Braaten" >To: >Subject: [mw] this list >Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:18:01 -0400 > >I just signed on this weekend and have thus-far recieved only two promos >from this list. Is there so little going on with you, my mid-western >counterparts that there is no more discussion? Is there another list that >is more lively, or is this the pinnacle of on-line RR information for the >great Fly-Over States.... > >This Easterner needs to know! > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32679-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 20:08:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66613 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 20:08:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66600 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 20:08:22 -0000 From: To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:10:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021023201011.HKKL9260.imf21bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.31]> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] this list tru. > > From: "dan sharp" > Date: 2002/10/23 Wed PM 04:04:08 EDT > To: braaten@erols.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > What List??? > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mike Braaten" > >To: > >Subject: [mw] this list > >Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:18:01 -0400 > > > >I just signed on this weekend and have thus-far recieved only two promos > >from this list. Is there so little going on with you, my mid-western > >counterparts that there is no more discussion? Is there another list that > >is more lively, or is this the pinnacle of on-line RR information for the > >great Fly-Over States.... > > > >This Easterner needs to know! > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32680-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 21:42:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34502 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 21:42:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34492 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 21:42:25 -0000 Message-ID: <1046.207.67.91.212.1035409338.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:42:18 -0500 (CDT) From: To: , In-Reply-To: <004101c27ac8$e8530d00$736b2c42@oemcomputer> References: <004101c27ac8$e8530d00$736b2c42@oemcomputer> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list [is for the criminally insane] try midwestravers.com, it has all moved there mw-raves is now for the rantings of the criminally insane... didn't you read the FAQ? > I just signed on this weekend and have thus-far recieved only two > promos from this list. Is there so little going on with you, my > mid-western counterparts that there is no more discussion? Is there > another list that is more lively, or is this the pinnacle of on-line RR > information for the great Fly-Over States.... > > This Easterner needs to know! > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32681-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 22:41:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77981 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 22:41:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77968 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 22:41:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: jp@phreak.net cc: braaten@erols.com, In-Reply-To: <1046.207.67.91.212.1035409338.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Message-ID: <20021023150606.X41087-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list [is for the criminally insane] On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 jp@phreak.net wrote: >try midwestravers.com, it has all moved there > >mw-raves is now for the rantings of the criminally insane... didn't you read >the FAQ? in all seriousness, i'm curious if this is a good or bad thing. i mean, personally, i'm fine with the fact that there's no discussion on this list anymore as i haven't been to a rave in quite awhile and don't have much to say about them. though that's not to say my interest in the music has waned at all... i just find it interesting that 300 or so subscribers probably feel the same way as i do, and don't feel the need to talk too much about it here. after a few years of being on this list, it's interesting to see the changes that have occured. i have to say that when i first joined, i looked at raves and raving in a totally different light. when i started meeting people on a regular basis through this forum, it was quite exhilerating.... i mean, it's always nice to meet nice people, right? and these people brought with them a rush of new sounds, new experiences, that i'm still very thankful for. i don't know... i could make all kinds of observations about any "scene"... point out that forums like this really have the potential to add positive new dimensions to relationships, but i have to wonder if that really contributes anything. in the end, i feel it's my body moving at a party that makes a difference... that's what i've really got out of raves, is the opportunity to shake my ass in places i never thought i would. so, lately, i've kind of withdrawn. i mean, what can you do? tried to gain focus despite still feeling responsible for the list... and i have to say i feel like it's all good. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32682-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 23 22:46:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80276 invoked by uid 1151); 23 Oct 2002 22:46:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80264 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 22:46:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:46:51 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: jp@phreak.net cc: braaten@erols.com, In-Reply-To: <20021023150606.X41087-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> Message-ID: <20021023154610.O41087-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list [is for the criminally insane] On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, spad chonholz wrote: >so, lately, i've kind of withdrawn. i mean, what can you do? tried to >gain focus despite still feeling responsible for the list... and i have >to say i feel like it's all good. it's not like i haven't had plenty of help, you know? chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32683-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 00:31:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27828 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 00:31:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27818 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 00:31:14 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1035419468-11797-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:31:08 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021024003108.D69C63FAC@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] re: this list... ------------=_1035419468-11797-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *** There is an attachment in this mail. *** _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance ------------=_1035419468-11797-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: "[mark]" , chez@midhae.pair.com, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: {pb-cle} PROUD to be a Raver-honestly Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] hehe...as a source of creation...i often find new events, songs, and dances replicating my actions within milli-seconds. it is eerie sometimes to be such a catalyst for progress and creativity. but then again did anyone figure that fractals that were based on mathmatical random computer formula plots would create such beautiful art. that is a true test of creativity to create art out of chaos...but then again raves started as the revamping of what was thought to be defunct warehouses...they were simply transformed into temporary autonmous zones with visual and aura stimulation effecting the mood...some chose to use chemical mood enhancers also. the basic pillars of rave: peace, love, unity, and respect preserved the utopian rapture like effect of raves until the sell-out haters and posers came with their mainstream violence, hate, disunity, and disrespect. --- "[mark]" wrote: >Great reply, Rob. > >I don't know why, but I feel that my entire life has a common recurring >theme: I always seem to arrive 5 minutes after the peak of the party, 5 >minutes after the most exciting thing of the night just happened, or 5 >minutes before a "trend" becomes "mainstream"...and then it's ruined, >because I see myself as a bandwagoner... > >I don't know if it's a predestination to mediocrity or if my heart is in the >right place, but I have really bad luck with these things... > >Perhaps it also has to do with living 50 minutes away from the city (which I >did up until this year...)...you hear about it, but don't get to be part of >it until it's old news.... > >I've loved dance music since I was a young child. I grew up on 60's soul and >70's funk...it's right and natural for me to love the music I love, and yet, >I often feel as though, because I happened to join "the scene" when I did, >that I feel lumped in with those people in Rob's 4th step (when it hits the >masses who have no focus, and are more just "along for the ride"), even >though my love of the music and its history dates waaay further back. > >Rob, keep posting, man. I love your words. > >m > > > > >---- >adam, you're the biggest redneck i know next to traat. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance ------------=_1035419468-11797-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ------------=_1035419468-11797-0-- From mw-raves-return-32684-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 03:18:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 381 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 03:18:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 350 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 03:18:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021024031750.001FA3F9D@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] trick or treats...oct 25...columbus trick or treats oct 25 columbus columbus's largest halloween costume contest giving away $4000 in cash and prizes to the top 3 winners special 3 hour dj set by the one and only danny howells (www.dannyhowells.com) one of the world's most innovative and technically skilled DJs, Britain's Danny Howells has rapidly risen to the top of the electronic music industry over the last few years. his unique playing style, which has been labeled as 'deepsexyfuturistic techfunkhouse', features a mesmerizing blend of everything from progressive and tech house to breaks and drum and bass. born in hastings, howells spent his early days as warm up dj for john digweed at his bedrock parties. from that point on Howell's has proceeded to rock clubs such as Renaissance, Twilo, and Cream. highly regarded for his work as a producer and remixer, howell's meticulously constructed 10 hour sets at Arc in New York 'Global Underground: Nubreed' mix compilations. and: a special standard lounge party sponsored by 'now its dark' magazine featuring a naughty nun costume contest, psychics and tarot card readers. and: in our vip area, the columbus alive meltdown mezzanine bash featuring miss bella and selena lavinina red zone night club doors open @ 10:30 18 & over welcome $10 before midnight $15 after info: 614.470.3273 www.risemidwest.com sponsored by: rise/red zone night club miller lite now its dark magazine columbus alive _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32685-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 03:20:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1730 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 03:20:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1711 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 03:20:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:19:50 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021024031951.1A6054048@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] MONSTER MASH...Oct. 26...Dayton, OH Sat. Oct. 26th Dayton, Ohio in-the-groove.com presents MONSTER MASH costume party & contest Huda Hudia - Tampa, FL, Kaleidescope Records www.hudahudia.com 7up - Pittsburgh, PA, 5 Star Productions Shiva - Philadelphia, PA, Subterror, www.djshiva.com Nautigroove - Cincinnati, OH, In the Groove, www.in-the-groove.com Tom Sawyer - Cincinnati, OH, www.raversonly.com Kid Chaos - Columbus, OH, In the Groove, www.in-the-groove.com Tex - Shandoe, OH 513 Productions, www.sceneohio.com Confuse - Cincinnati, OH, Independent, DASSO Holy D - Cincinnati, OH, Rave Trash, Independent, www.ravetrash.net Sinister - Columbus, OH, Independent there will be a costume contest with 3 $50 prizes most creative, scariest, & brightest. party starts 9pm til 6am. as always leave your drugs, alcohol, attitudes, binkys, masks, and markers at home. come ready to dance and have a good time. you can only sit down if your feet exhausted from dancing! $15 w/ canned good. $20 w/o info: 513.665.6572 www.in-the-groove.com _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32686-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 03:31:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4944 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 03:31:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4927 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 03:31:19 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021024033109.E430C3D84@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Bad Boy Bill @ Club Chaos...Nov. 02...Columbus mythodic productions and ritual saturdays present: sat.nov.02 bad boy bill - btd: behind the decks/www.badboybill.com/chicago as you all well know this guy needs no introduction in columbus. saturday nov 2nd. bill returns to once again rock cow-town from start to finish. this show will sell out so you must get there early to gain entry to this event. steve smooth - IHR/chicago quantum - mythodic/ritual/columbus sponsored by: mix connection multimedia, inc mythodic, snug, international house records, moody, behind the decks, www.bobasic.com, am only dress code: as it should be: come as you are 18+ welcome (for both girls and guys w/ proper ID) $15 general admission before 11pm $20 after 11pm more info: 614.326.6475 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32687-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 03:31:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5626 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 03:31:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5608 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 03:31:36 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021024032945.E7DAD3CA6@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Asian Halloween Bash...Oct 26...Columbus Subj: ++ASIAN HALLOWEEN BASH++ Date: 02-10-22 13:58:54 EDT From: partyinfo@asianozone.com (Asian Ozone Entertainment Party Information) Reply-to: partyinfo@asianozone.com To: chung.102@osu.edu Are u scared of ghost, goblins, and monsters??? If not, well get ready to get "SPOOK" this Saturday night at Club Ozone. Bringing you the hottest Halloween party in the buckeye state. Featuring one of the fastest growing Asian deejays in the Midwest....DJ HeartBreakK. Come and dance the night away as DJ HeartBreakK shows Ohio his electrifying style that will hype the crowd back and forth!!! Also MC Nympho will be hosting the costume contest, with ca$h prizes up for grabs for the winner!!!! If you would like more information, please visit us at www.asianozone.com. Party Info.: Saturday October 26, 2002 18 over welcome Door open @ 10:30pm Strict security Club Ozone 303 S.Front St. Located in Red Zone building Joshua K. Chung Partner / Co-Founder Asian Ozone Entertainment www.asianozone.com "your source for Asian Life in the midwest" _____________________________________________________________ Asian Ozone Entertainment "Your source for Asian life in the Midwest" http://www.asianozone.com activate your free asianozone e-mail account now _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32688-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 05:07:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44307 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 05:07:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44297 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 05:07:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:07:47 -0700 (PDT) From: spad chonholz To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021023220142.Y13257-100000@taz3.hyperreal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] FW: [Legal] PLEASE Pass this on to other underground rave lists ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Sumbry][" Subject: Fwd: [Legal] PLEASE Pass this on to other underground rave lists Date: 10/22/2002 6:12:52 PM ########################################################### # This is a call for help from the underground community. # # Please pass this on to other underground lists. # ########################################################### We have the utmost respect for officers of the law. When doing their jobs, the service that law enforcement provides is invaluable. However, as many of you in the rave community know, we in the underground are consistently being unfairly targeted by officers of the law that overstep their bounds. Many of us in the rave community go to great lengths to ensure that our events are completely legal. Yet even these legal events are shutdown, members of our crews are issued fines, and in some cases our equipment is confiscated. We research our events. We know which land is ours to gather on, and which is not. We are guilty only of exercising our constitutional right to assemble. But a prejudice against the mainstream perception of "rave" encourages some law enforcement officials to violate our civil rights then threaten us with huge fines, insurmountable odds in court, and 'their word against ours' to force us into submission and complacence. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. As some of you know, because of this The Stormriders are currently involved in a legal battle against the Bureau of Land Management. Many people, including members of our own crew, various members of Moontribe, and even advisors from the ACLU have helped us put together a defense to contest citations that we believe were issued in a gross example of blind prejudice against ravers. The results of our efforts are pending. However, we need your help. If you or someone you know has been issued a similar citation by a Federal agency (BLM, USFS, etc), or by any one of the agencies comprising the Hi Desert Rave Task Force (BLM, CHP, and various San Bernardino County agencies including the Sheriff's Department) please let us know by e-mailing us at -- legal@thestormriders.com. We are gathering as much data as possible. We've heard many stories shared and we believe that many crews have experienced the same type of uncivil treatment we have. Now it is time for us to gather as many hard legally binding facts as we can find to prove it. The data you provide could help us take legal action against Federal agencies, like the BLM, to prevent them from illegally breaking up our gatherings. If you do not have any information to share with us but know of someone who might, please pass this on to them. If you have received a citation, please share with us as much information as you have (whether or not you paid the fine, where the event was located, if it was contested it in court, specific dates, case numbers, parties involved, etc). We are especially interested in hearing from parties who have taken their citations to trial, but we welcome any and all relevant examples. We are not implying that all officers overstep their bounds. In fact, we have had many pleasant experiences with Federal rangers. However, it has become clear that unless we stand up to those who prosecute us unjustly, the problem will only get worse. Please help us further set precedent showing these officers that we are willing to fight for our right to gather casually in small groups and use our land the same way the general public is allowed to. We've all experienced incredible music in incredible environments, and we'd like to continue to do so without fear of prosecution. In dealing with our situation, the one thing we have learned is that the little guy CAN make a difference. The more information we have to help, the greater a difference we can all make. Peace, -The Stormriders legal@thestormriders.com _______________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32689-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 08:22:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6884 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 08:22:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6871 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 08:22:37 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: "Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org" Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:23:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 900/1000/N Subject: [mw] Paul Anthony and Acidman - This Monday - FREE Monday October 28th - 10/28/02 Paul Anthony - Disco House - Underground Construction - Chicago, IL Known for his flawless blends, inspiring trickery, and excellent track selection, Paul can definitely rock any crowd. Playing from coast to coast, Paul has played alongside many acclaimed dj's, and was also premiered alongside Carl Cox, Doc Martin, and Gene Farris in the DVD version of the major motion picture PITCH BLACK. A house set definitely not to miss. Acid Man - House - Bunch Lox - Chicago, IL Regular releases on Bunch Lox and many other lables. Acid Man will show you how House music is done! Raymond Baer - Nu School Breaks - BMC - Chicago, IL FREE EVENT 21+ 2$ Rail and BudLight Drafts 2345 W. Belmont 312.409.2626 treehousecollective.net Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32690-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 16:23:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49940 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 16:23:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49930 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 16:23:21 -0000 Message-ID: <1192.207.67.91.233.1035476606.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:23:26 -0500 (CDT) From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. With enough room to fit 600+ Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all night!! Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro LiveWire - Electromagntechno I.P.X. - Filtered Funk Casper - Jungle Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! for more info dial 312.409.2626 or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32691-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 17:13:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81161 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 17:13:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81151 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 17:13:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20021024164829.86829.qmail@web13207.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, detroit@topica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] wicked02 - sa 11.02.02 - ann arbor, mi wicked02 - a post all hallow's eve education: taking you to hell and back [01] 2002.nov.02.sat us.mw.mi.ann arbor 9p - 2a 516 e liberty st >17y necto $5 the equinox [deep techno] 1a-2a metaphaze records detroit infinity [drum and bass] 12a-1a detroit garrett dillon [tribal techno] 11p-12a tribaltechno.com detroit evil kniegro [dancehall] 10p-11p thebookings.com on30ne ann arbor anime [regressive] 9p-10p thebookings.com on30ne ann arbor [02] derek plaslaiko and alastair todd
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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32692-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 17:16:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82716 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 17:16:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82706 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 17:16:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:19:24 -0400 From: MATTI1977@aol.com To: jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <33120E24.265BC73E.02314A73@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? NOT ME!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32693-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 20:32:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17382 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 20:32:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17372 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 20:32:47 -0000 From: "Raymond Luna" To: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Spree, Flippy, DMX and Rev Kathy Russell-- Springfield and St Louis THIS WEEKEND! A Happy Hardcore Weekend for the Mid-West! SNOOPY'S GHOSTLY HALLOWEEN 2 October 25, 2002- Springfield, MO 8pm-6am Flyer Front http://www.midwest-raves.com/party_flyaz/halloweenfront.jpg Flyer Back http://www.midwest-raves.com/party_flyaz/halloweenback.jpg Spree- Happy Hardcore, Sonic Fury, Minneapolis, www.sonicfury.net Flippy- Happy Hardcore, Rave N Beats USA, Next Generation UK, Just 2, 3Kings, www.djflippy.com Austin DMX- Dark jungle, Hard house, 303 Collective, Vitamine, Underworld, Denver Rev. Kathy Russell- Jungle Diva, Manifest, Underworld, www.revkathyrussell.com Austin The Arc Angel- Hardcore & Gabber, 3 Kings, Austin Golden Child- Jungle, Leo, Springfield Zack Smith- Techno, Lightbody Tech., Springfield Toonces- Nu NRG, UK Hardhouse, 417 Vibe, Springfield Lushious Beck vs. Odyssey- Hard House/ Prog Trance, Underworld, St. Louis Stickboy- Live PA, Underworld, St. Louis Located At Afterhours!! 318 West Commercial Springfield, MO Thats right folks, Afterhours will re-open its doors for ONE magical nite!! Come out and relive the Afterhours experience!! $12 before 11 $15 after 11 Info- 417-894-0604 314-259-9773 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Flovibe, State of the Art Productions, and Underworld Present: HARDCORE IN HELL Oct. 26, 2002 St. Louis, MO Hardcore in Hell will rock your Halloween Weekend 3 ROOMS OF MASSIVE SOUND, LIGHTING AND LASERS!!!! Spree- Happy Hardcore, Sonic Fury, Minneapolis, www.sonicfury.net Flippy- Happy Hardcore, Rave N Beats USA, Next Generation UK, Just 2,3Kings, www.djflippy.com Austin DMX- Dark jungle, Hard house, 303 Collective, Vitamine, Underworld, Denver Rev. Kathy Russell- Jungle Diva, Manifest, Underworld, www.revkathyrussell.com Austin Dino- Deep House, Boogie Knights, Chicago, IL EZE- Florida Breaks, Leo, Springfield, MO Zac Smith- Hard trance, Lightbody Technologies, Springfield, MO Lushious- Hard House Diva, Underworld, St. Louis Dj Toonces- Nu Nrg Hard House, 417vibe, Springfield Stickboy- Live PA, trance, Underworld, St. Louis Opie- Breaks, Burnt Productions, St. Louis Phelyne- Jungle Godess, Underworld, Kansas City Paul Wicked- Funky House, Underworld, VitaminE, Kansas City Kram- Funky Breaks, Underworld, St. Louis Amin- Trance, Underworld, St. Louis Boomer G -Nu Nrg House, OPK, St. Louis Odessey- Trance, Underworld, St. Louis Oxodus- UK Hard House, Turntable Terrorist, St. Louis Polar- Happy Hardcore, OPK, St. Louis Snoopy- Hard House, Underworld, St. Louis Disco Dan- Hard Progressive, Trailblazers and Flovibe, St. Louis Kenobi- Tribal Acid House, Terran System and Flovibe, St. Louis Domination- Hard Dark Teck, Underworld, Springfield, MO PLUS A BRAND NEW VIRGIN VENUE!!!! Get ready for Halloween it will be the bomb!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SNOOPY AND STICKBOY!!! $17 before 10:30 $20 after 10:30 Info: 314-259-9773 www.midwest-raves.com www.417vibe.com Any guest list request please email snoopy@midwest-raves.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32694-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 24 23:32:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30003 invoked by uid 1151); 24 Oct 2002 23:32:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29993 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 23:32:28 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <1192.207.67.91.233.1035476606.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? THIS EVENT IS IN "CHICAGO", NOT DEKALB. AND IS AT NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY NOT NIU. NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY THANK YOU. =) Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com -----Original Message----- From: jp@phreak.net [mailto:jp@phreak.net] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:23 AM To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. With enough room to fit 600+ Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all night!! Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro LiveWire - Electromagntechno I.P.X. - Filtered Funk Casper - Jungle Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! for more info dial 312.409.2626 or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32695-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 25 01:44:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71482 invoked by uid 1151); 25 Oct 2002 01:44:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71461 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2002 01:44:38 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: stevie t To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: steviet@asianozone.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021025014132.CD5333B9B@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] illuminate...nov 22...columbus underground soundz & don raja entertainment (ohio's #1 south asian promotional duo for the past 3 years) illuminate (official OSU Diwali Show Afterparty) friday - november 22 krome nightclub hosted by: dj/mc rush - u-soundz - columbus dj sandeep kumar - LA's #1 south asian dj / donraja resident dj ill~s - tri-state's finest (I.N.S) / donraja resident dj rb-nyc - calibar uklany / nyc's legendary / donraja resident party 411: 18 to party / 21 to drink doors open @ 10pm party lasts until 3am dress to impress guys: GQ/Trendy ladies: elegant/sexy columbus: 614.327.8229 614.397.8739 614.893.3145 cleveland: 216.276.1939 cincinnati: 513.252.7306 columbus, ohio _____________________________________________________________ Asian Ozone Entertainment "Your source for Asian life in the Midwest" http://www.asianozone.com activate your free asianozone e-mail account now _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32696-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 25 01:53:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76566 invoked by uid 1151); 25 Oct 2002 01:53:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76556 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2002 01:53:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:53:12 -0400 From: Vozen@aol.com To: braaten@erols.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3F0C3522.350E9564.0001167A@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list this list is kinda like our country it may be fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32697-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 25 03:05:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97235 invoked by uid 1151); 25 Oct 2002 03:05:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97225 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2002 03:05:22 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:04:02 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Mw-Ravers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] RG: List Admin: Hyperreal Offline Tomorrow Due to Move (fwd) picked this off of the raverg list and thought i should forward the news along. -- *** -Becky =) becky@pubnix.org http://www.pubnix.org/~becky *** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:54:56 -0400 From: James E Devlin To: ravers Geriatric Subject: RG: List Admin: Hyperreal Offline Tomorrow Due to Move Our wonderful host, Hyperreal, after several years, is moving hardware locations tomorrow around noon, Eastern, 9 AM Pacific. Hence, RG may be down for a few hours. Do not panic! The trouble is not with your computer setup. Presuming no hiccups, traffic will resume in the late afternoon. James E List Clerk . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32698-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 25 04:24:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19334 invoked by uid 1151); 25 Oct 2002 04:24:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19316 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2002 04:24:11 -0000 From: "Eliot Stanton" To: , Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <1192.207.67.91.233.1035476606.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? i am going, i will be dressed up like a punk rocker. mohawk and all -----Original Message----- From: jp@phreak.net [mailto:jp@phreak.net] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:23 AM To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. With enough room to fit 600+ Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all night!! Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro LiveWire - Electromagntechno I.P.X. - Filtered Funk Casper - Jungle Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! for more info dial 312.409.2626 or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32699-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 25 07:48:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62815 invoked by uid 1151); 25 Oct 2002 07:48:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62792 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2002 07:48:02 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021025074728.715C83D9F@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] the real reason why they tried so hard to set me up w/ opium... from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/secret022.html... Skull and Bones: The Racist Nightmare at Yale - part 1 of 2=20 George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography by Webster G. Tarpley Anton Chaitkin=20 Chapter -VII- Skull and Bones: The Racist Nightmare at Yale.=20 ``Wise statesmen ... established these great self-evident truths, that when= in the distant future some man, some faction, some interest, should set up= the doctrine that none but rich men, or none but white men, were entitled = to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, their posterity should look = up again at the Declaration of Independence and take courage to renew the b= attle which their fathers began....''@s1=20 -- Abraham Lincoln --=20 Honeymoon=20 The U.S. Navy delivered George Bush back home for good on Christmas Eve, 19= 44; the war in the Pacific raged on over the next half year, with Allied fo= rces taking Southeast Asia, the Netherlands East Indies (Indonesia), and is= lands such as Iwo Jima and Okinawa.=20 Barbara Pierce quit Smith College in her sophomore year to marry George. Pr= escott and Mother Bush gave a splendid prenuptial dinner at the Greenwich F= ield Club. The wedding took place January 6, 1945, in the Rye, New York Pre= sbyterian Church, as the U.S. Third Fleet bombarded the main Philippine isl= and of Luzon in preparation for invasion. Afterwards there was a glamorous = reception for 300 at Appawamis Country Club. The newlyweds honeymooned at T= he Cloisters, a five-star hotel on Sea Island, Georgia, with swimming, tenn= is and golf.=20 George's next assignment was to train pilots at Norfolk, Virginia Naval Air= Station. ``George's duty ... was light. As for other young marrieds, whose= husbands were between warzone tours, this was kind of an extended (and pai= d) honeymoon.''@s2=20 Japan surrendered in August. That fall, George and Barbara Bush moved to Ne= w Haven where Bush entered Yale University. He and Barbara moved into an ap= artment at 37 Hillhouse Avenue, across the street from Yale President Charl= es Seymour.=20 College life was good to George, what he saw of it. A college career usuall= y occupies four years. But we know that George Bush is a rapidly moving man= . Thus he was pleased with the special arrangement made for veterans, by wh= ich Yale allowed him to get his degree after attending classes for only two= and a half years.=20 Bush and his friends remember it all fondly, as representatives of the Fash= ionable Set: ``[M]embers of [Bush's] class have since sighed with nostalgia= for those days of the late 1940s.... Trolley cars still rumbled along the = New Haven streets. On autumn afternoons they would be crowded with students= going out to football games at the Yale Bowl, scattering pennies along the= way and shouting `scramble' to the street kids diving for them''[emphasis = added].@s3=20 In 1947, Barbara gave birth to George W. Bush, the President's namesake. By= the time of his 1948 graduation, he had been elected to Phi Beta Kappa, an= honor traditionally associated with academic achievement. A great deal is = known about George Bush's career at Yale, except the part about books and s= tudies. Unfortunately for those who would wish to consider his intellectual= accomplishment, everything about that has been sealed shut and is top secr= et. The Yale administration says they have turned over to the FBI custody o= f all of Bush's academic records, allegedly because the FBI needs such acce= ss to check the resume@eacute; of important office holders.=20 >From all available testimony, his mental life before college was anything b= ut outstanding. His campaign literature claims that, as a veteran, Bush was= ``serious'' at Yale. But we cannot check exactly how he achieved election = to Phi Beta Kappa, in his abbreviated college experience. Without top secre= t clearance, we cannot consult his test results, read his essays, or learn = much about his performance in class. We know that his father was a trustee = of the university, in charge of ``developmental'' fundraising. And his fami= ly friends were in control of the U.S. secret services.=20 A great deal is known, however, about George Bush's status at Yale. His fel= low student John H. Chafee, later a U.S. Senator from Rhode Island and Secr= etary of the Navy, declared: ``We didn't see much of him because he was mar= ried, but I guess my first impression was that he was--and I don't mean thi= s in a derogatory fashion--in the inner set, the movers and shakers, the es= tablishment. I don't mean he put on airs or anything, but ... just everybod= y knew him.''=20 Chafee, like Bush, and Dan Quayle, was in the important national fraternity= , Delta Kappa Epsilon (DKE or the ``Dekes''). But Chafee says, ``I never re= member seeing him there. He wasn't one to hang around with the fellows.''@s= 4=20 The Tomb=20 George Bush, in fact, passed his most important days and nights at Yale in = the strange companionship of the senior-year Skull and Bones Society.@s5=20 Out of those few who were chosen for Bones membership, George was the last = one to be notified of his selection--this honor is traditionally reserved f= or the highest of the high and mighty.=20 His father, Prescott Bush, several other relatives and partners, and Roland= and Averell Harriman, who sponsored the Bush family, were also members of = this secret society.=20 The undoubted political and financial power associated with Skull and Bones= has given rise to many popular questions about the nature and origin of th= e group. Its members have fed the mystery with false leads and silly specul= ations.=20 The order was incorporated in 1856 under the name ``Russell Trust Associati= on.'' By special act of the state legislature in 1943, its trustees are exe= mpted from the normal requirement of filing corporate reports with the Conn= ecticut Secretary of State.=20 As of 1978, all business of the Russell Trust was handled by its lone trust= ee, Brown Brothers Harriman partner John B. Madden, Jr. Madden started with= Brown Brothers Harriman in 1946, under senior partner Prescott Bush, Georg= e Bush's father.=20 Each year, Skull and Bones members select (``tap'') 15 third-year Yale stud= ents to replace them in the senior group the following year. Graduating mem= bers are given a sizeable cash bonus to help them get started in life. Olde= r graduate members, the so-called ``Patriarchs,'' give special backing in b= usiness, politics, espionage and legal careers to graduate Bonesmen who exh= ibit talent or usefulness.=20 The home of Skull and Bones on the Yale campus is a stone building resembli= ng a mausoleum, and known as ``the Tomb.'' Initiations take place on Deer I= sland in the St. Lawrence River (an island owned by the Russell Trust Assoc= iation), with regular reunions on Deer Island and at Yale. Initiation rites= reportedly include strenuous and traumatic activities of the new member, w= hile immersed naked in mud, and in a coffin. More important is the ``sexual= autobiography'': The initiate tells the Order all the sex secrets of his y= oung life. Weakened mental defenses against manipulation, and the blackmail= potential of such information, have obvious permanent uses in enforcing lo= yalty among members.=20 The loyalty is intense. One of Bush's former teachers, whose own father was= a Skull and Bones member, told our interviewer that his father used to sta= b his little Skull and Bones pin into his skin to keep it in place when he = took a bath.=20 Members continue throughout their lives to unburden themselves on their psy= cho-sexual thoughts to their Bones Brothers, even if they are no longer sit= ting in a coffin. This has been the case with President George Bush, for wh= om these ties are reported to have a deep personal meaning. Beyond the psyc= hological manipulation associated with freemasonic mummery, there are very = solid political reasons for Bush's strong identification with this cult.=20 Observers of Skull and Bones, apologists and critics alike, have accepted v= arious deceptive notions about the order. There are two outstanding, among = these falsehoods:=20 1) that it is essentially an American group, an assembly of wealthy, elite = ``patriots''; it is in fact, an agency for British Empire penetration and s= ubversion of the American republic; and=20 2) that it is somehow the unique center of conspiratorial control over the = United States. This misconception is certainly understandable, given the ra= ther astonishing number of powerful, historically important and grotesquely= anti-human individuals, who have come out of Skull and Bones. But there ar= e in fact congruent organizations at other Ivy League colleges, which refle= ct, as does Skull and Bones, the over-arching oligarchical power of several= heavily intermarried financier families.=20 The mistaken, speculative notions may be corrected by examining the history= of Skull and Bones, viewed within the reality of the American Eastern Esta= blishment.=20 Skull and Bones--the Russell Trust Association--was first established among= the class graduating from Yale in 1833. Its founder was William Huntington= Russell of Middletown, Connecticut. The Russell family was the master of i= ncalculable wealth derived from the largest U.S. criminal organization of t= he nineteenth century: Russell and Company, the great opium syndicate.=20 There was at that time a deep suspicion of, and national revulsion against,= freemasonry and secret organizations in the United States, fostered in par= ticular by the anti-masonic writings of former U.S. President John Quincy A= dams. Adams stressed that those who take oaths to politically powerful inte= rnational secret societies cannot be depended on for loyalty to a democrati= c republic.=20 But the Russells were protected as part of the multiply-intermarried groupi= ng of families then ruling Connecticut. The blood-proud members of the Russ= ell, Pierpont, Edwards, Burr, Griswold, Day, Alsop and Hubbard families wer= e prominent in the pro-British party within the state. Many of their sons w= ould be among the members chosen for the Skull and Bones Society over the y= ears.=20 The background to Skull and Bones is a story of Opium and Empire, and a bit= ter struggle for political control over the new U.S. republic.=20 Samuel Russell, second cousin to Bones founder William H., established Russ= ell and Company in 1823. Its business was to acquire opium from Turkey and = smuggle it into China, where it was strictly prohibited, under the armed pr= otection of the British Empire.=20 The prior, predominant American gang in this field had been the syndicate c= reated by Thomas Handasyd Perkins of Newburyport, Massachusetts, an aggrega= tion of the self-styled ``blue bloods'' or Brahmins of Boston's north shore= . Forced out of the lucrative African slave trade by U.S. law and Caribbean= slave revolts, leaders of the Cabot, Lowell, Higginson, Forbes, Cushing an= d Sturgis families had married Perkins siblings and children. The Perkins o= pium syndicate made the fortune and established the power of these families= . By the 1830s, the Russells had bought out the Perkins syndicate and made = Connecticut the primary center of the U.S. opium racket. Massachusetts fami= lies (Coolidge, Sturgis, Forbes and Delano) joined Connecticut (Alsop) and = New York (Low) smuggler-millionaires under the Russell auspices.=20 ** Certain of the prominent Boston opium families, such as Cabot and Weld, = did not affiliate directly with Russell, Connecticut and Yale, but were ide= ntified instead with Harvard.=20 John Quincy Adams and other patriots had fought these men for a quarter cen= tury by the time the Russell Trust Association was set up with its open pir= ate emblem--Skull and Bones.=20 With British ties of family, shipping and merchant banking, the old New Eng= land Tories had continued their hostility to American independence after th= e Revolutionary War of 1775-83. These pretended conservative patriots procl= aimed Thomas Jefferson's 1801 presidential inauguration ``radical usurpatio= n.''=20 The Massachusetts Tories (``Essex Junto'') joined with Vice President Aaron= Burr, Jr. (a member of the Connecticut Edwards and Pierpont families) and = Burr's cousin and law partner Theodore Dwight, in political moves designed = to break up the United States and return it to British allegiance.=20 The U.S. nationalist leader, former Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton, = exposed the plan in 1804. Burr shot him to death in a duel, then led a famo= us abortive conspiracy to form a new empire in the Southwest, with territor= y to be torn from the U.S.A. and Spanish Mexico. For the ``blue bloods,'' t= he romantic figure of Aaron Burr was ever afterwards the symbol of British = feudal revenge against the American republic.=20 The Connecticut Tory families hosted the infamous Hartford Convention in 18= 15, toward the end of the second war between the U.S. and Britain (the War = of 1812). Their secessionist propaganda was rendered impotent by America's = defensive military victory. This faction then retired from the open politic= al arena, pursuing instead entirely private and covert alliances with the B= ritish Empire. The incestuously intermarried Massachusetts and Connecticut = families associated themselves with the British East India Company in the c= riminal opium traffic into China. These families made increased profits as = partners and surrogates for the British during the bloody 1839-42 Opium War= , the race war of British forces against Chinese defenders.=20 Samuel and William Huntington Russell were quiet, wary builders of their fa= ction's power. An intimate colleague of opium gangster Samuel Russell wrote= this about him:=20 While he lived, no friend of his would venture to mention his name in print= . While in China, he lived for about twenty-five years almost as a hermit, = hardly known outside of his factory [the Canton warehouse compound] except = by the chosen few who enjoyed his intimacy, and by his good friend, Hoqua [= Chinese security director for the British East India Company], but studying= commerce in its broadest sense, as well as its minutest details. Returning= home with well-earned wealth he lived hospitably in the midst of his famil= y, and a small circle of intimates. Scorning words and pretensions from the= bottom of his heart, he was the truest and staunchest of friends; hating n= otoriety, he could always be absolutely counted on for every good work whic= h did not involve publicity.=20 The Russells' Skull and Bones Society was the most important of their domes= tic projects ``which did not involve publicity.''=20 A police-blotter type review of Russell's organization will show why the se= cret order, though powerful, was not the unique organ of ``conspiracy'' for= the U.S. Eastern Establishment. The following gentlemen were among Russell= s' partners:=20 Augustine Heard (1785-1868): ship captain and pioneer U.S. opium smuggler. = John Cleve Green (1800-75): married to Sarah Griswold; gave a fortune in op= ium profits to Princeton University, financing three Princeton buildings an= d four professorships; trustee of the Princeton Theological Seminary for 25= years. Abiel Abbott Low (1811-93): his opium fortune financed the construc= tion of the Columbia University New York City campus; father of Columbia's = president Seth Low. John Murray Forbes (1813-98): his opium millions financ= ed the career of author Ralph Waldo Emerson, who married Forbes's daughter,= and bankrolled the establishment of the Bell Telephone Company, whose firs= t president was Forbes's son. Joseph Coolidge: his Augustine Heard agency g= ot $10 million yearly as surrogates for the Scottish dope-runners Jardine M= atheson during the fighting in China; his son organized the United Fruit Co= mpany; his grandson, Archibald Cary Coolidge, was the founding executive of= ficer of the Anglo-Americans' Council on Foreign Relations. Warren Delano, = Jr.: chief of Russell and Co. in Canton; grandfather of U.S. President Fran= klin Delano Roosevelt. Russell Sturgis: his grandson by the same name was c= hairman of the Baring Bank in England, financiers of the Far East opium tra= de. Such persons as John C. Green and A.A. Low, whose names adorn various b= uildings at Princeton and Columbia Universities, made little attempt to hid= e the criminal origin of their influential money. Similarly with the Cabots= , the Higginsons and the Welds for Harvard. The secret groups at other coll= eges are analogous and closely related to Yale's Skull and Bones.=20 Princeton has its ``eating clubs,'' especially Ivy Club and Cottage Club, w= hose oligarchical tradition runs from Jonathan Edwards and Aaron Burr throu= gh the Dulles brothers. At Harvard there is the ultra-blue-blooded Porcelia= n (known also as the Porc or Pig club); Theodore Roosevelt bragged to the G= erman Kaiser of his membership there; Franklin Roosevelt was a member of th= e slightly ``lower'' Fly Club.=20 A few of the early initiates in Skull and Bones went on to careers in obvio= us defiance of the order's oligarchical character; two such were the scient= ists Benjamin Silliman, Jr. (Skull and Bones 1837), and William Chauvenet (= Skull and Bones 1840). This reflects the continued importance of republican= factions at Yale, Harvard and other colleges during the middle three decad= es of the nineteenth century. Silliman and Chauvenet became enemies of ever= ything Skull and Bones stood for, while the Yale secret group rapidly confo= rmed to the Russells' expectations.=20 Yale was the northern college favored by southern slaveowning would-be aris= tocrats. Among Yale's southern students were John C. Calhoun, later the fam= ous South Carolina defender of slavery against nationalism, and Judah P. Be= njamin, later Secretary of State for the slaveowners' Confederacy.=20 Young South Carolinian Joseph Heatly Dulles, whose family bought their slav= es with the money from contract-security work for the British conquerors in= India, was in a previous secret Yale group, the ``Society of Brothers in U= nity.'' At Yale Dulles worked with the Northern secessionists and attached = himself to Daniel Lord; their two families clove together in the fashion of= a gang. The Lords became powerful Anglo-American Wall Street lawyers, and = J.H. Dulles's grandson was the father of Allen Dulles and John Foster Dulle= s.=20 In 1832-33 Skull and Bones was launched under the Russell pirate flag.=20 Among the early initiates of the order were Henry Rootes Jackson (S&B 1839)= , a leader of the 1861 Georgia Secession Convention and post-Civil War pres= ident of the Georgia Historical Society (thus the false accounts of the ``g= ood old slavery days'' and the ``bad northern invaders''); John Perkins, Jr= . (S&B 1840), chairman of the 1861 Louisiana Secession Convention, who fled= abroad for 13 years after the Civil War; and William Taylor Sullivan Barry= (S&B 1841), a national leader of the secessionist wing of the Democratic P= arty during the 1850s, and chairman of the 1861 Mississippi Secession Conve= ntion.=20 Alphonso Taft was a Bonesman alongside William H. Russell in the Class of 1= 833. As U.S. Attorney General in 1876-77, Alphonso Taft helped organize the= backroom settlement of the deadlocked 1876 presidential election. The barg= ain gave Rutherford B. Hayes the presidency (1877-81) and withdrew the U.S.= troops from the South, where they had been enforcing blacks' rights.=20 Alphonso's son, William Howard Taft (S&B 1878), was U.S. President from 190= 9 to 1913. President Taft's son, Robert Alphonso Taft (S&B 1910), was a lea= ding U.S. Senator after World War II; his family's Anglo-Saxon racial/ances= tral preoccupation was the disease which crippled Robert Taft's leadership = of American nationalist ``conservatives.'' _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Di= stance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32700-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 25 07:52:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64356 invoked by uid 1151); 25 Oct 2002 07:52:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64334 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2002 07:52:48 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021025075028.EA3E23DA3@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] brotherhood of the snake... from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/secret036.html Cult of the Serpent - part 1 of 5 Crim-Ram Series FILE NO. 003 by Branton=20 What do the following names all have in common: Dennis Brunnell, Stan Deyo,= William Cooper, Bill Hamilton, Val Valerian, 'Commander X' and Robert Laza= r? They all allege that the following scenario is a reality... Ever since t= he so-called "end" of the NASA moon shots the U.S. "secret" government has = been involved in covert manned space exploration of this solar system utili= zing super-advanced technologies which are so revolutionary that the secret= government has chosen to tell the public little or nothing about it. Some = of these sources even claim that an inner core of this "secret government" = have in the past worked hand-in-claw with a race of hominoid-sauroid reptil= ian beings who have given these human "elite" technology and power (over th= eir fellow man) in exchange for certain powers and influences which this se= cret government or "serpent cult" gave these alien beings over the masses o= f humanity. There are allegedly other human groups, native to earth and muc= h more ancient, who left this planet in ancient times after obtaining simil= ar technologies. Some of these ancient and modern groups "sold out" to this= alien race in exchange for technology (as in the case of the so-called MIB= 's or Men In Black), while others developed such technologies of their own = initiative (as in the case of many of the human "alien" races who are often= referred to as the "Nordics").=20 As for the covert space operations that are being carried out by various to= p-secret organizations within the U.S. government, they are based on a comb= ination of "alien" technology recovered from numerous crash-retrievals of a= erial disks, while other aspects are based on prototype and state-of-the-ar= t Military-Industrial technologies developed by well-known U.S. companies. = These advanced technologies include anti-gravity generators and electromagn= etic propulsion systems and massive top-secret space efforts which have lar= gely been financed through deception and through hundreds of billions of do= llars which have generously (although unknowingly) been provided via 'Black= ' budgets by hard-working American taxpayers.=20 Dennis Brunnell, a 33rd degree Mason and a Grandmaster in the Ordo Templi O= rientis (O.T.O.) had become "dis- illusioned" by the Illuminati's present a= ctivities. Originally believing that the Illuminati was a mystic lodge desi= gned to illuminate one into mystical heights of ascended awareness, he even= tually learned that such metaphysical talk was just so much hot air designe= d to gain the willing assistance of lower-ranking "lodge" members, who were= unknowingly being manipulated into serving the hypocritical, self-seeking = and self-serving imperialistic goals of a relatively small inner core of "i= llumined" members.=20 Some years ago a man by the name of John Todd, a member of a family who wer= e high-level and generational members of a druidic witchcraft cult, alleged= that through his occult contacts he was chosen to be initiated into a deep= -level Illuminati lodge. He claimed that in doing so he had to "unlearn" mu= ch of the wiccan philosophies which he was taught at a young age. These occ= ult teachings were merely a means, he soon found out, of this inner core of= initiates to control the lower ranks of the lodge. This inner core, which = consisted of 13 individuals, were (he claims) THE LEADERS of all the large = wiccan/witchcraft organizations AS WELL AS the leaders of World Freemasonry= . These men controlled BOTH movements from their lofty positions, along wit= h much of the world's drug trafficking, and had powerful influence in world= economic and political movements. Mr. Todd soon learned that this inner co= re were continually fearful that the lower-ranking members of the occult so= cieties would turn against "them" if the lower members ever found out that = this inner council were merely using these "lower pawns" to increase their = own wealth and their god-like power and authority over the rest of humanity= . The Rothschilds of London, he also learned, were at the very heart of thi= s conspiracy, along with the Jesuits in Rome. The Rothschilds were consider= ed to be "human gods" by many occultists and, according to Mr. Todd, were i= n constant communication with "Lucifer", who they themselves considered to = be god. There are also indications, as we will give later in these texts, t= hat they were/are also in contact with the serpent race as well, which woul= d make them an integral part of the "serpent cult".=20 Dennis Brunnell, John Todd and in fact millions of former Communists, reali= zed that there was an incredible contradiction between what these world soc= ialists were telling their "followers" and what these inner elite were actu= ally practicing. The connection we make between Illuminism and Communism (w= hich is still very strong in mainland China) is no coincidence, as both are= socialist movements. Also, according to well-known geo-political analysts = such as Dr. John Coleman, Karl Marx himself had known ties with 33rd degree= Masonry and the Jesuit Order. As for John Todd, he later "defected" from t= his secret lodge after he "suggested" to the other members that in light of= recent events the prophecies of the Bible should be studied. Their answer = to this, he claims, was a murderous stare from most if not all of the other= members of this council of 13. He believes he was lucky he got out of ther= e alive. These men, apparently, did not even want to consider the possibili= ty that the Holy Bible could be true, for they knew well enough that it was= against every imperialistic and deceitful practice that they were involved= in. John Todd later became a Christian and spoke to various audiences arou= nd the country until, according to some sources, he was later assassinated.= =20 Brunnell alleged that some within the Illuminati were so heartless as to be= lieve that their socialist "World Order" must be brought about even if the = orchestrating of wars, etc., had to be accomplished in order to create the = conditions necessary for establishing it... or, in other words, that the en= d justified the means. These lost souls were and are apparently convinced t= hat they have the divine right to decide the fate of nations, and that the = masses of humanity exist for no other reason than to serve their cause. The= y consider themselves "gods" and the rest of humanity as "mere mortals". So= much for the end-result of the false promise that was given to man by the = serpent race as revealed in Genesis chapter 3, which was that men could be = as gods, and that the creature could be independent from or equal to the Cr= eator. The serpent race knew full well that the dis-connection of man from = their trust and reliance in the Godhead would result in lost power and domi= nion over the earth and the beasts, including the serpent race, and as a re= sult the reptilians could take control of that which mankind forfeited, inc= luding man himself! Since that ancient time the saurians have been able to = find those among humanity who would be willing to believe their false promi= ses in exchange for temporary physical gains.=20 One of Dennis Brunnell's "Gemstone" research papers (which also described t= he Mafia-CIA-oil company connection to the John F. Kennedy assassination, c= onfirming the original "Gemstone" reports of Bruce Roberts) included a scen= ario developed by Kissinger and other Illuminists in the early 1980's or be= fore. This scenario showed one such proposed plan as to how war could be us= ed to bring the United States - the last obstacle standing in the way of ab= solute Illuminati rule of the world - into subjection to the one-world Soci= alist state. This scenario, possibly one of many developed, was in the form= of a speech given by a U.S. president. George Bush was sited as a very pos= sible candidate to this "speech" (This was years before Bush became vice pr= esident, which suggests that Brunnell was in fact tapped-into some very sen= sitive information). It was basically written as a possible emergency addre= ss to the nation which would supposedly take place after years of American = involvement in an - Illuminati orchestrated? - war in the Middle East. The = scenario continued as "the President" informs the nation that, due to the l= ong drawn-out (Korea/Vietnam like no-win) war which has depleted our nation= al resources, a certain Executive Order was to be issued for the "good" of = the nation which would result in practically ALL PRIVATE AGENCIES coming un= der the absolute control of the Federal Government. In short, according to = this scenario, if such a plan was carried out then the entire nation could = be brought under absolute socialist control in one night.=20 Such a scenario may not be too far-fetched when we realize the following:= =20 1) George Bush was, during his years at Yale University, initiated into the= "Skull & Bones" society, also known as the "Brotherhood of Death". Accordi= ng to prominent political and financial analysts such as Antony Sutten, the= re is much documentation to suggest that Skull & Bones is nothing less than= a Western branch of the Bavarian Illuminati, designed to recruit highly-ed= ucated individuals into serving it's cause;=20 2) George Bush served as THE DIRECTOR of the CIA for several years, which, = according to various sources, is actually serving the one-world movement;= =20 3) Bush has very close ties with one-world organizations such as the Counci= l on Foreign Relations or C.F.R., Federal Reserve, Trilateral Commission, B= ilderbergers, Alpine Institute, etc.;=20 4) Before Ronald Reagan "chose" a running mate, according to the late Gary = Allen, he was approached at a political convention by the duo of Walter Cro= nkite and Henry Kissinger, both alleged Illuminists, and "strongly encourag= ed" to choose George Bush as his running mate as Bush was well-favored by t= he International Banking Establishment of Wallstreet;=20 5) The Bush family is very rich and are heavily involved in high-profit, of= fshore oil drilling companies.=20 6) Also, when news of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait - where the Bush family'= s oil business had some vested interests - reached America, George Bush was= at the one-world "Aspen" Institute of Colorado visiting with Margaret That= cher. Bush's decision to rally the nations together by sending our young me= n and women to fight and die for the "New World Order", was based on "advic= e" he received from officials at the one-world Aspen Institute. Although "O= peration Desert Storm" was a well-planned and well master-minded attack, th= e fact nevertheless remains that we were fighting to defend the "New World = Order" and the oil interests (whereas we only get a very small percentage o= f our oil from Kuwait) and not to defend the constitutional United States. = This war was a two-sided event. Even though the motive may have been other = than in harmony with America's best interests in that (like Korea and Vietn= am) it was fought FOR the Socialist-oriented United Nations; some good neve= rtheless came out of it, in essence, that America was able to defend ISRAEL= from an aggressive enemy, something which Almighty God most likely honored= . However the target, Saddam Hussain, escaped free while tens of thousands = of his subjects, so many pawns in a huge game of chess, had to pay the pric= e with their lives. As the Word of God says, "evil shall slay the wicked" (= Psalm 34:21). This may in part apply to Iraq, the land of ancient Babylon (= the ancient city where the one-world movement and all occult movements had = their genesis) which in a strange twist of fate was "judged" by the very op= pressive movement which it created. Notice also Bush's constant references = to the "New World Order" - a concept which is a mockery of the Declaration = of INDEPENDENCE which our forefathers shed their blood to defend. True, we = must as a nation not ignore the rest of the world, yet at the same time we = should not surrender ourselves to the rest of the world either, but preserv= e the American Republic as a bastion of Freedom to which the oppressed of A= LL NATIONS can take refuge.=20 The reason we are so critical of this particular presidency is because we b= elieve that the secret government - utilizing it's influence in mass-media = control, MANIPULATED Bush into office in a direct perversion of the elector= al process. In other words, through the fantastic media power which they wi= elded, the one-worlders snuffed out the competition. We realize that it is = Biblical to honor the governing officials, yet this is only to the EXTENT t= hat the governing powers submit to the Almighty governing power of the Univ= erse, God Himself. Elijah criticized the ancient King Ahab for this very re= ason, because he was leading the nation of Israel astray into Baal worship.= Unfortunately, King Ahab and George Bush may have had a lot in common. We = would rather hope that the opposite were true, but facts are facts. However= , we must not fall into the trap of pointing the finger at any one person, = as Bush happens to be only one link in a very large and very powerful "secr= et government" chain which, as we have seen, has sold out much of this plan= et to "The Beast". Bush, like many misled "insiders", was no doubt largely = a product of his environment, as well as a member of a generational "Establ= ishment" family, and more-or-less a puppet or voicebox of secret government= policy. This fact should be taken into account, as well as the fact that t= he major "enemy" is the draconian influence as it exists in and behind the = secret government establishment. There were, nevertheless, less-than- honor= able motives on the part of the United States in it's decision to fight in = the Gulf War (see: YOUTH ACTION NEWS - Oct. 1990., Box 312., Alexandria, VA= 22313 - this source gives much evidence that Bush and Company more-or-less= "encouraged" the Kuwaiti invasion and, when faced with irrefutable proof t= hat such an invasion was coming, did absolutely nothing to warn the Kuwaiti= s or the Iraqis against such an invasion. Was Bush and Company willing to r= isk the lives of thousands of people just so his One World Government could= be established and a "trial run" of the global U.N. Police Force could be = initiated?).=20 According to Dr. John Coleman (World Intelligence Review., Box 426., Metair= ie, LA 70004), the ancient Babylonian Serpent Cult, or what is known today = as the "Illuminati" (33rd degree Freemasonry) is under the direct control o= f some very nefarious forces. Coleman in fact provides much evidence that 3= 3rd degree Masonry has been used not only to infiltrate and take over many = political, economic and religious institutions, but has also been used to "= create" such institutions as well, organizations to which people will flock= and submit their power and energies to unknowingly serve an agenda that th= ey know nothing about. This was and is carried out through the 22 "Palladiu= m" Lodges which, according to various sources, can be traced back to the Gr= and Masonic Lodge in England. According to Coleman and many others, the Gra= ndmasters of Masonry AND of Jesuitism (i.e.the Illuminati) are working toge= ther in this conspiracy. In many cases the individuals involved are both Je= suits AND Masonic initiates. Such was the case of Guisseppi Mazzini, who wa= s a Jesuit-Mason, and a satanist-witch to boot, and was second-in-command t= o the Masonic "Pontiff" Albert Pike - whose rotting remains now lie beneath= the "House of the Temple" in Washington D.C. (see Dr. Coleman's tapes: CON= SPIRACY CULTS AND THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, and FREEMASONRY AND THE ONE WOR= LD CONSPIRACY).=20 Other works that may be very revealing along this line, as we indicated ear= lier, are the writings of former 33rd degree Mason and former Past Master o= f all Scottish-Rite Masonic bodies, the Rev. Jim Shaw. This is especially t= rue with his book THE DEADLY DECEPTION (P.O. Box 884., Silver Springs, FL 3= 2688). In this work Mr. Shaw exposes the blatant SERPENT worship secretly t= aking place within the Masonic HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE in Washington D.C. Mix t= his with the accounts of "Masonic" street-outlays built into Washington D.C= . itself and accounts of tunnels beneath the city which connect many of the= important Federal buildings and which allegedly extend to extreme depths a= nd distances, then you have a recipe for something very strange and siniste= r which is undermining our nations capitol. No wonder the Christian-Patriot= s within the American Republic have had to fight "the enemy within" for so = long with so little apparent results from their efforts.=20 Concerning Bush's one-world policies, we will quote here from a few letters= to the editor which appeared in various issues of the UTAH COUNTY JOURNAL,= as confirmation of some of the statements which we have previously made. O= ne letter, appearing in the April 30, 1991 issue of the U.C.J., stated:=20 "Editor: The April-May '91 issue of COMMON CAUSE reports that the first suc= cessful exploration for oil in Kuwait was done by the Zapata Oil Co., of wh= ich current President George Bush was a founder and director. The President= 's son, George W. Bush, is now the third largest insider stockholder in ano= ther off-shore oil drilling company located in Bahrain, 15 miles from Saudi= Arabia. This is Harken Energy Corp., with its home base in Bedford, Texas.= =20 "Does this information explain the Rambo-like "hurry up" war in Kuwait? Doe= s it explain marked shifts in acceptance or castigation of Saddam Hussein? = Does it offer an explanation for the terrible destruction of the Kuwait oil= fields and Persian Gulf waters? Do these two leaders really have the welfa= re of their respective peoples at heart? I would give anything to read one = of the history books on this war written 25-50 years hence. - Eugene J. Fau= x; Provo."=20 And in the Feb. 26, 1991 issue of the same publication:=20 "Editor: In the Feb. 12 issue of the JOURNAL an obviously well-intentioned = lady suggested that we pray for President Bush because he has 'awesome resp= onsibilities.'=20 "He has, indeed, many awesome responsibilities: a responsibility to uphold = and defend the U.S. Constitution; a responsibility to weed out those in our= government who, by intent or neglect, work to undermine the Republican for= m of government given to us by our founding fathers; a responsibility to te= ll the American people the TRUTH about the incredible, rapidly escalating n= ational debt and what the debt will mean to our children and our children's= children 'unto the seventh generation' and beyond. He also has a responsib= ility to expose the hypocrisy of those who are working diligently to bring = about a new constitutional convention, supposedly to propose one or two new= amendments, while they already have entire new constitutions written and w= aiting. - Albert V. Burns; Spanish Fork."=20 Another letter which appeared in the UTAH COUNTY JOURNAL during the Bush-Ir= aq controversy, Mar. 5 1991 issue, stated:=20 "Editor: Mrs. (Colleen D.) brought up a very good point about my criticism = of George Bush and his New World Order agenda. Rightfully, as a leader of a= nation, he might be considered exempt from censure for any mistakes that h= e might make through oversight or a lack of proper information. Unfortunate= ly, this is far from the case with Bush.=20 "Sadly, the president is very cognizant of his actions and exactly where th= ese actions are speedily leading us - to a world government ruled by elitis= t insiders. History can conclude nothing less than this result. For a compl= ete analysis of Bush, his political history, and his leadership of the Coun= cil on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, I enthusiastically = recommend the new book on George Bush - THE ESTABLISHMENT MAN, available th= rough The John Birch Society. Well documented, this book will put to rest a= ny remaining praises for our chief executive.=20 "In fact, my critique of the executive is founded upon my patriotism, not t= urning against it. President Teddy Roosevelt stated: "Patriotism means to s= tand by the country. IT DOES NOT MEAN TO STAND BY THE PRESIDENT OR ANY OTHE= R PUBLIC OFFICIAL SAVE EXACTLY TO THE DEGREE IN WHICH HE HIMSELF STANDS BY = THE COUNTRY. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serve= s the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that= by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.= " As Bush has repeatedly violated his oath to defend the Constitution, I wi= ll continue to patriotically reproach his intentions.=20 "As for being in the White House when Bush sent National Security Adviser B= rant Scowcroft and Deputy Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger to Beijin= g immediately and secretly after the Tienamen Square massacre, no, I was no= t present when he made that call. That's why we have the press. The White H= ouse announced that such was the case on Dec. 18, 1989, to anyone listening= . Such betrayal of freedom-fighters is par for the course when we look at B= ush's policy toward other people seeking liberty, but receiving only his tr= ue objective: World despotism in his New World Order. - Bruce J. Martin."= =20 In relation to the above concern of whether we should unquestioningly trust= our elected (?) heads of state, it is interesting that of all the presiden= ts which have been in the White House since the assassination of John F. Ke= nnedy (which many allege was actually an Illuminati-inspired coup), EVERY S= INGLE ONE OF THEM have been supportive of the one-world government movement= as it is incarnate in the Council of Foreign relations and allied global o= rganizations. Coincidence?=20 Finally, we have this letter from the September 18, 1990 issue of the same = publication:=20 "Editor: In his September address to the nation, President Bush stated his = five objectives for the massive deployment of U.S. troops. The fifth is the= fundamental reason for this operation. As Mr. Bush stated himself, "The cr= isis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity= to move toward a historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled tim= es, our fifth objective - a new world order - can emerge... We are now in s= ight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."=20 "The U.N. 'founders' included U.S. communist traitor, Alger Hiss, who was t= he acting secretary general of the conference in San Francisco in 1945. His= s was accompanied by a contingent of U.S. communists and a swarm of Council= on Foreign Relations members. The communists wanted world government by re= volution and the others wanted it by way of socialism. In either case, thes= e individuals did not want national sovereignty of the kind fought for by o= ur founding fathers.=20 "The fundamental difference between a "new world order" under the United Na= tions and an independent United States are nowhere clearly indicated than i= n our DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE affirmation that "men are endowed by thei= r Creator with certain unalienable rights." The UN's total exclusion of God= means that rights do not come from God, (but) that they proceed from gover= nment, and government can and will take them away.=20 "Our country has suffered in the past from U.N. decisions and action. U.N. = advocates gave away all the gains our fighting men bled and died for in Eur= ope and Asia after World War II. We fought Korea and Vietnam under U.N. san= ction and command with victory denied even though over 100,000 men lost the= ir lives and hundreds of thousands were wounded (in addition to this, sever= al sources allege that communist nationals working within the U.N. constant= ly betrayed U.S. positions and strategies to their allies in North Korea, a= nd repeated this betrayal during the Vietnam conflict as well. It is a fact= that the MAJORITY of the "United" Nations Secretary Generals have also bee= n communist nationals - Branton). Nixon and Kissinger operating under "new = world order" dictates gave South Vietnam to the communist enemy after our m= ilitary fought so valiantly even with the treasonous restrictions imposed o= n them. 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[notice initial habitation of intelligent super beings at china / tibet border...] The Illuminati Outline of History - part 1 of 4 Dawn of time to 1000 C.E. Alpha and Omega -- Immanentizing of the Eschaton. 20,000,000 BC -- Recent Epoch of geeology begins; Ice Age ends; human beings spread to all parts of the world. 30,000 -- First Illuminatus, Gruad, rules in Atlantis. 20,000 -- Mythical Lloigor inhabit continent of Mu. 10,000 -- Approximate beginning of agriculture. Estimated date of inscriptions on stone disks by the Dropa tribe, a diminuative people of the Bayan-Kara-Ula Mountains on the border of China and Tibet; disks describe how the tribe came to earth in flying machines; ancient Dropa graves contain human remains with huge heads and small bodies. Earliest estimated date of carving of the Crystal Skull found at Lubaantun in the Yucatan. Hyborian Age in Europe. 9,000 to 10,000 -- Date of Plato's Atlantis. 6,000 -- Picture writing develops. 5,000 -- First alphabet begins to develop. 4,000 -- Approximate date of discovery of metals, beginning of cities, constellations of stars first recorded. Egyptians begin placing small pieces of crystal on the forehead of deceased prior to mummification. 3113 BC. Trephination (cutting a hole in the skull) practiced by people all over the world. 3,000 -- Approximate date of building of the Sphinx and Great Pyramid at Giza and other pyramids elsewhere in Egypt. Indus Valley civilization develops complex government, writing and well planned cities. Minoan civilization flourishes in Crete. Earliest parts of the Bible written. Beginning date of Olmec calendar from Central America: 2,500 -- Sarmoung Brotherhood of Babylonia flourish according to Gurdjieff. 2,100 -- Egyptians record star configurations on which the 24 hour day is based. 2,000 -- Stonehenge and other stone circles built in England. 1,800 -- Huge Silbury Mound constructed near Stonehenge. 1,700 -- Babylonian Enuma Anu Enlil, early roots of astrology based on celestial phenomena. 1,500 -- Approximate date of the destruction of Thera, on which Atlantis legends are probably based. Early references to Mithraism on cuneform astronomical tests. Quadrants of the moon recorded in China. 1,360 -- Akhenaton's monotheistic sun worship in Egypt. 1,344 -- Tutankhamun, Akhenaton's successor who revived polytheism, buried at Thebes; curse reading "Death comes on swift wings to he who opens this tomb," written on tomb doorway. 1,300 -- Approximate date I Ching written in China. 1,184 -- End of the Trojan War, Illium falls to the Greeks. 1,000 to 2,000 -- Legendary Thule civilization in the Gobi region destroyed by a catastrophe, "possibly of an atomic nature," survivors migrating to Agarthi and Schamballah. 1,000 -- Huge Sacrificial Table built at Mystery Hill near North Salem, New Hampshire. 950 -- Approximate date of building of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, traditional origin of the Masonic fraternity; alleged assassination of Temple master-mason Hiram for refusing to reveal masonic secrets. 900 -- Approximate time settlers from Europe and the Middle East established colonies in North America. 800 -- Twenty-two "moon stations" in monthly lunar cycle recognized in Babylonia, India and China. 753 -- Legendary founding of Rome by Romulus. 700 -- Jordanian city of Petra is carved out of sandstone by unknown culture. 600 -- Approximate beginning of money with first coins in Lydia. 575 -- Nebuchadnezzar completes building Tower of Babel in Babylon. 500 to 600 -- Time of Buddha, Lao Tse, Confucius, Zarathustra, Orpheus, Pythagoras, Zachariah and Daniel--an Illuminated century. 500 -- Sun-Tse's Treatise on the Art of War, first intelligence manual. 485 -- Execution of Spurius Cassius in Rome. 450 -- Development of the 12 constellations of the zodiac in Mesopotamia, recognizing the importance of the plane of the elliptic through which the sun, moon and planets move. 440 -- Assassination of Spurius Maelius. 400 -- Druidism in England. Astrological ideas from Enuma Anu Enlil transmitted to India. 390 -- Approximate date Plato's The Republic written, featuring such Illuminoid images as the Philosopher Kings, the Divided Line and the parable of the Cave. 355 -- Plato's Timaios and Kritias, earliest accounts of Atlantis. 300 -- Invention of Mayan calendar in Yucatan, based on advanced astronomy. Fabius family of Rome reaches its greatest heights. 275 -- Approximate date Greek poet Aratus makes first sytematic record of star constellations in Phaenomena. 273 to 232 -- Rule of Asoka, king of India who allegedly founded the Nine Unknown. 212 -- Archimedes uses burning-glass to set fire to Roman fleet at Syracuse, early use of lens as weapon. 133 -- Land reformer Tiberius Gracchus murdered and hundreds of his followers killed by followers of powerful Roman patricians; death of Scripio Africanus a few years later. 121 -- Gaius Gracchus and 3000 of his followers massacred by patricians. 100 -- The Great Teacher of the Essenes. Essentials of modern astrology worked out. 95 -- Approximate date of assassination of Saturninus and Glaucia. 92 -- Assassination of Rutilius Rufus. 91 -- Assassination of Livius Drufus. 73 -- Revolt of gladiators led by Spartacus. 44 -- Assassination of Julius Caesar. 4 -- Birth of Jesus of Nazareth, accompanied by various Illuminoid trappings: three early Men-In-Black disguised as the Wise Men; strange lights in the sky; miracles such as visits from angels, prohpecy and suspension of time are reported. 0 -- Carnation-Painted Eyebrows Society, Copper Horses, Iron Shins and other secret societies active in China. C.E. 30 -- Assassination of the radical Jesus, allegedly on Illuminati orders; more Illuminoid trappings; an eclipse; an earthquake; visitorsfrom the sky roll away the stone from the sepulcher and liberate the crucified Jesus. 100 -- Hero of Alexandria devises primitive steam-engine. 125 to 150 -- Simon Magus, Menander, Valentinus and others develop Gnostic religious doctrines of esoteric knowledge (illumination). 135 -- Approximate date Ptolemy records 1,022 stars in Almagest; also recorded astrological ideas from Enuma Anu Enlil in his Apotelesmatika. 150 -- Roman Mithraism competes with Christianity. Yellow Turban Society subdues northern China, Triad cult formed in opposition. 200 -- First book of the cabala, Sepher Yetzirah, compiled. 216 to 276 -- Life of Mani, the Illuminator, who founded Manicheism, based on ideas from Judaism, Christianity, Zoroasterism, Gnosticism, etc. 325 -- Council of Nicaea in which Christian begins to rigidify. 500 -- Chinese use of gunpowder. 570 to 632 -- Life of Muhammad, founder of Islam. 670 -- Ca -- Estimated date of carving of stone statues found on Easter Illinicus invents Greek Fire, primitive incendiary bomb. 673 to 735 -- Life of the Venerable Bede, the greatest scholar of Saxon England whose Ecclesiastical History of England (731) contained many occult and unexplained occurances. 700 -- Sufi mysticism begins. 730 -- Al Azif written in Damascus by Abdul Alhazred. 772 -- Charlemagne allegedly established Holy Secret Tribunal which becomes the Holy Vehm. 850 -- Ismaili and Fatimid missionaries throughout Islamic Empire preach revolution against the ruling Sunni order and Abbasid state. 900 -- Beginning of the Bogomils of Bulgaria, a Manicheian sect, roots of Cathari. 909 -- First Fatimid caliph in Egypt. 920 to 1003 -- Life of Pope Sylvester II who allegedly visited the Nine Unknown in India. 950 -- Al Azif translated into Greek as Necronomicon. 1000 -- Approximate founding of Yezidi cult by Sufi Sheikh Adi in Iraq. Abode of Learning active in Cairo. Spread of Cathari Manicheism throughout Europe. Leif Ericson explores North America. 1034 to 1124 -- Life of Hasan-e Sabbah, founder of the Assassins of Persia. Member of the Ismaili sect, Hasan seized fortress of Alamut in Daylam in 1090; split with Fatimid dynasty in 1094; Assassins flourished for next several centuries. 1050 -- Approximate date of founding of the Order of Hospitallers in Jerusalem. 1058 -- Member of the Abode of Learning sect gains temporary control of Bagdad. 1092 -- Assassins murder Persian minister Nizam al-Mulk. 1095 -- First Crusade. 1100 -- Approximate date Sufi Gilani founds Arabic school of Illuminati, Kadiri Order of Sebil-el-ward, in Bagdad. Assassins infiltrate Thug cult of India. Bogomil leader Basil burned in Constantinople. Albigensian Cathari sect flourishes near Albi, France. Avengers and Beati Paoli active in Italy. Joachim of Floris founds primitive Christian sect, Illuminated Ones. Robin Hood active in England. 1119 -- Knights Templar founded in Palestine. 1123 -- Abode of Learning suppressed by Turkish Vizier Afdal. 1140 -- Rapid growth of Cathari sect begins. 1149 -- First Cathari bishop established. 1162 to 1227 -- Life of Genghis Khan, conquerer of China and Russia, invader of Europe and Islamic Empire, destroyer of Assassin power. Approximate beginnings of the wandering of the Gypsies of North India. 1167 -- Cathari council near Toulouse. 1170 -- Assassination of Thomas a Becket. 1171 -- Last Fatimid caliph dies. 1176 -- Peter Waldo founds the Poor Men of Lyons. Sultan Saladin invades Assassin territory, gains truce. 1184 -- Waldenses excommunicated, suppressed. 1200 to 1300 -- House of Wisdom in Cairo, roots of the Afghan Roshaniya. Origin of the Mafia in Sicily. 1208 -- Albigensian Crusade begins suppression of Cathari heresy. 1212 -- The Children's Crusade. Genghis Khan invades China. 1233 -- Founding of the Inquisition to suppress Cathari and other heresies. 1235 to 1315 -- Life of Dr. Illuminatus, Ramon Llull (Raymond Lully) in Spain. 1241 -- Mongols invade Europe through wise use of intelligence information and strategy, introduce gunpowder from Asia. 1244 -- Massacre of Cathari at Montsegur, France. 1250s -- Approximate beginning of Holy Vehm in Westphalia. Approximate time of Hulagu Khan's defeat of the Assassins. 1254 to 1324 (?) -- Life of Marco Polo, early European traveler in China, Persia. 1258 -- Hulagu Khan destroys Bagdad; Mongols destroy Mesopotamia, the mother of civilization. 1260 -- Mongol invasion of Islamic Empire turned back. 1270s -- Cathari hierarchy fades. 1275 -- Assembly of traveling mason guilds in Frankfort. Zohar, second book of the cabala, compiled by Moses de Leon in Spain. 1280 -- Roger Bacon, deviser of early eyeglasses, independently invents gunpowder. 1291 -- Hospitallers retreat to Cyprus. 1300 -- White Lotus Society founded in China. Inquisition begins suppression of witches and other pagan groups. 1307 -- Philip IV of France suppresses Knights Templar for witchcraft and heresies; Jacques de Molay imprisoned in the Temple in Paris. 1308 -- Assassination of Holy Roman Emperor Albert I. 1309 -- Hospitallers acquire the isle of Rhodes. 1313 -- Knights Templar dissolved by papal decree. 1314 -- De Molay and others burned in Paris. 1327 -- Assassination of King Edward II in England. 1329 -- First appearance of the Tarot in Germany. 1360 -- Approximate date of the earliest known Satanic cults; black masses celebrated in France. 1369 -- Timurlane becomes Great Khan. 1375 -- Another assembly of traveling mason guilds in Frankfort. 1379 to 1482 -- Alleged life of Christian Rosenkreuz, fictitious founder of Rosicrucianism. 1390 -- Gypsies begin to appear in Europe. 1400s -- Cathari sect dies out. Concave lenses developed. 1404 -- King Robert revises code of Holy Vehm. 1410 -- Secret society formed in Italy which eventually joins with Rosicrucianism. 1437 -- Assassination of King James I of Scotland. 1456 -- Gutenberg Bible begins modern printing. 1458 -- Abramelin's Book of Sacred Magic translated from Hebrew to french according to followers of the cult of the Guardian Angel. 1471 -- Assassination of King Henry VI of England. 1472 -- University of Ingolstadt founded. Fernando Poo discovers Fernando Poo. 1483 -- Assassination of King Edward V of England. 1492 -- Rodrigo Borgia, head of the powerful Borgia family, becomes Pope Alexander VI. Columbus sails the ocean blue. 1493 to 1541 -- Life of Paracelsus, possible founder of Roscrucianism; discover of zinc around 1530; model of the Faust legend. 1500 -- Approximate date of Roshaiya, Illuminated Ones, in Afganistan. Beginning of Alumbrados in Spain and Charcoal- Burners in Scotland. Cesare Borgia has his brother-in-law assassinated. 1502 -- Cesare Borgia arrests and executes enemies who have conspired against him. 1503 to 1566 -- Life of Nostradamus, visionary prophet. 1507 -- Fra Dolcino's version of Joachim's Illuminism suppressed by the Bishop of Vercueil. 1510 -- Beginning of systematic importation of African slaves into the West Indies. 1513 -- Machiavelli's The Prince published. 1519 -- Spanish conquest of Mexico, enslavement of Amerindians. 1522 -- Hospitallers lose Rhodes to the Turks. 1530 -- Hospitallers given Isle of Malta by Charles V, become Knights of Malta. 1537 -- Assassination of Alessandro de Medici, Duke of Florence. 1568 -- First Inquisition edict against the Alumbrados. 1574 -- Second edict against Alumbrados. 1575 -- Approximate date of founding of British Intelligence services. 1575 to 1624 -- Life of Jakob Bohme, visionary mystic, illuminated one. 1584 -- Assassination of William I of Orange in England. 1587 -- English colony established at Roanoke Island, Virginia; no trace of the "lost colony" was found when supply ships returned three years later. 1589 -- Assassination of King Henry III of France. 1590 -- Janssen makes first compound microscope in Europe. 1597 -- Anonymous alchemist seeks to start Rosicrucian-like society in Europe. 1605 -- Rosicrucian constitution published. 1607 -- Italian secrect society headed by Count Bernard of Germany merges with Rosicrucianism. First permanent English settlement in America, Jamestown, Virgina. 1608 -- Apprentice to Dutch spectacle-maker Lippershey discovers principle of focusing lenses; Lippershey builds first telescope. 1609 -- Galileo independently builds telescope, begins study of astonomy. Spanish settlement at Santa Fe, New Mexico, founded. 1610 -- Assassination of King Henty IV of France. 1614 -- Fama Fraternitatis published, fictional story of Rosenkreuz by Johann Valentin Andrea. 1619 -- First slave ship in America, Jamestown, Virginia. 1620 -- Plymouth Colony, second English settlement, arrives on Mayflower. 1622 -- Posters appear in Paris warning that the Rosicrucians are "amongst you...visibly and invisibly." 1623 -- Final papal edict against Alumbrados; Guerinets appear in France. First submarine built by Cornelius van Drebbel in England. 1638 -- Milton meets Galileo. 1640 -- Beginning of subliminal persuasion when Rembrandt imbeds the word "sex" in a painting. 1642 -- Civil War in England between King Charles and Parliament. 1646 -- Earliest known Masonic Lodge to allow non-professional or "free" masons, in Warrington, England. 1647 -- Alleged correspondence between Cromwell and Ebeneezer Pratt plotting the overthrow of King Charles. 1649 -- King Charles convicted and beheaded by Parliament. 1654 -- Illuminated Guerinets come to public notice in France. 1667 -- Milton's Paradise Lost published. 1675 -- Leeuwenhoek discovers "animalcules" through the microscope. 1676 -- Sperm discovered by Leeuwenhoek's student Ham. 1680 -- Madame Le Voisin, innovator of modern Satanism, executed in Paris. 1682 -- Tamanend, sachem and chief of the Lenni-Lenape tribe, welcomes William Penn to America, traditionally considered the beginning of the Tammany Society. 1689 -- William III of Orange becomes king of England, allegedly through the plotting of the Illuminati. 1694 -- Bank of England founded. 1700 -- Quietism of Fenelon and others. 1701 -- Earliest record of "operative" or professional Masonic Lodge in Alnwick, England. 1702 -- First daily newspaper in England. 1717 -- Founding of modern Freemasonry with the Grand Lodge of London by Desaguliers. Voltaire imprisoned in the Bastille. 1721 -- British King George I cracks down on the flourishing Hell Fire Clubs, popular Satanistic cults. 1723 -- Anderson's Constitutions of the Freemasons published. Ebrietatis Enconium and other early anti-Masonic works published. 1724 -- Publication of the anti-Masonic Grand Mysteries of the Freemasons Discovered. 1731 -- Benjamin Franklin initiated into Freemasonry. 1734 -- Franklin elected Grand Master of Pennsylvania. 1736 -- Death of the last leader of the Afghan Illuminated Ones. 1749 -- Rousseau's spontaneous "enlightenment" launches the Romantic Movement. 1750 -- Hell Fire Clubs continue to flourish in Dublin and London. Fictional alchemist Joseph Curwen writes letter stating "I laste Nighte strucke on ye Wordes that bringe up Yooge-Sothothe," perhaps the real power behind the Illuminati. 1754 -- Six year old Adam Weishaupt is orphaned and goes to live with the Jesuits. 1757 -- First year of Swedenborg's "New Era." 1759 -- Voltaire's Candide published. 1760 -- St. Germain founds chemical dye factory in Holland, fore- runner of I.G. Farben; disappears with 100,000 guilders. Franklin invents bifocals. 1761 -- St. Germain discovered living in Russia. Chinese Emporer issues edict against secret societies. 1762 -- Illumines of France founded. Sandwich invented. 1763 -- Swedenborg's Doctrine of Life for the New Jerusalem published. 1764 -- Voltaire's Philosophical Dictionary published; he begins a prodigious attack on dogmas of church and state. 1765 -- British Stamp Act imposed to help pay for the French and Indian War debt. Sons of Liberty clubs formed to resist the tax. 1767 -- Townshend Revenue Act, another British tax on the colonies. Kunta Kinte kidnapped into American slavery. 1768 -- Virginia's legislature dissolved for its opposition to the Townshend Act. Weishaupt graduates from the University of Ingolstadt, becomes tutor and catechist. Macfarguhar, Ball and Smelie begin compiling the Encyclopaedia Britannica. Mesmer commissions 12 year old Mozart's first opera, Bastien and Bastienne. 1770 -- Boston Massacre: British troops fire into a crowd. Townshend Act repealed. 1771 -- Encyclopaedia Britannica published. 1772 -- Weishaupt becomes professor at University of Ingolstadt. 1773 -- British Tea Tax on colonies. Boston Tea Party in protest. Weishaupt marries. Alleged meeting of Meyer Rothschild and others to plan a world revolution. Suppression of the Jesuits. Franklin's Rule by Which a Great Empire May Be Reduced to a Small One published. 1774 -- Britain's "Intolerable Acts" designed to punish rebellious colonies. First Continental Congress. Washington begins training troops. Louis XVI becomes king of France. Casanova becomes secret agent for the Inquisitors of Venice. Catherine II shuts down satiric journals in Russia. Jefferson's Summary View of the Rights of British Americans published. 1775 -- Second Continental Congress authorizes naval warships, sets up secret committee to procure weapons, names Washington commander-in-chief of the new American Army. George III proclaims America in open rebellion. Initial battles of the Revolutionary War: Lexington, Bunker Hill, Toconderoga. Bushnell's first experimental submarine and torpedo tested. Prince Hall lodges (for blacks) chartered by Grand Lodge of London, rejected by American lodges. 1776 -- Illuminati founded by Weishaupt. American Declaration of Independence, written by Jefferson, adopted by Continental Congress. Battles of Long Island, White Plains and Trenton. Nathan Hale executed as spy by British. Franklin becomes ambassador to France, is affiliated with French Masonic lodges. Opening of Freemasons' Hall, permanent headquarters of English Masonry. Cagliostro initiated into Masonry. Saigon captured by Tay Son brothers. Aaron Burr serves as assistant to Benedict Arnold. Thomas Paine's Common Sense and The Crisis widely read. Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations published. 1777 -- Weishaupt joins Munich Lodge of the Order of Good Council. Articles of Confederation adopted by Continental Congress. Battles of Bennington, Brandywine, Germantown, Princeton and Saratoga. Washington has his mystical vision of the future of the United States while at Valley Forge. War of Bavarian Secession begins. 1778 -- France recognizes American independence, signs treaty and provides aid. Franklin assists in initiation of Voltaire into Masonic Lodge of Paris. Masonic Convention in Lyons organizes Knights of Benficience. 1779 -- John Paul Jones says "Damn the torpedos!" Benedict Arnold becomes a traitor and spy for the British. War of Bavarian Secession ends. 1780 -- John Andre, British agent, captured with secret documents from Arnold; Arnold escapes to join British; Andre hanged as spy. Weishaupt's wife dies. Illuminati begins rapid growth. First use of the title Odd Fellows. Order of the Brotherhood of Asia, Rosicrucian off-shoot, founded. 1781 -- Battle of Guilford Court House, surrended of Cornwallis at Yorktown. John Hanson becomes first President of the United States in Congress Assembled. Weishaupt seeks abortion for his sister-in-law while awaiting dispensation to marry her. United Masonic Lodges of Hamburg headed by Fraximus, a secret Rosicrucian. Kant's Critique of Pure Reason published. 1782 -- British cabinet agrees to recognize American independence, preliminary agreement signed in Paris. Hanson commissions the "Eye in the Pyramid" Great Seal, finishes term; Elias Boudinot elected second President of Congress Assembled. Illuminati dominate European Masonry. Casanova retires as secret agent. 1783 -- Treaty signed between America and England. Washington disbands army, resigns. Hanson dies. Thomas Mifflin third President of Congress Assembled. Ex-Illuminati Utschneider sends letter denouncing the Order to monarch of Bavaria. Rite of Swedenborg founded by Marquis de Throne. Eclectic Rite founded by Baron Knigge in Frankfort. Webster's American Spelling Book published. 1784 -- Treaty with England ratified by Congress. Richard Henry Lee fourth President of Congress Assembled. Bavarian Monarch Carl Theodore outlaws secret societies. Cagliostro moves to Lyons from Bordeaux to found the Mother Lodge of Egyptian Masonry. Royal Commission in Paris, including Franklin and Guillotine as members, investigates Mesmerism and returns a negative report. 1785 -- Weishaupt flees to Gotha; new edict outlaws Illuminati; High-ranking Illuminatus Lanz killed by lightning and Illuminati papers found on body by police. French "Diamond Necklace" affair. Napoleon graduates military school. Franklin returns to America; Jefferson becomes French ambassador. Rosicrucian Order suppressed in Austria. Anonymous pamphlet appears in Germany revealing secrets of ancient Egyptian ceremonies. 1786 -- Wisdom Lodge founded in Virginia. Secret congress in Frankfort where Louis XVI and Gustavus III of Sweden condemned to die by Illuminati. Italian Illuminatus Buonarroti's library of Masonic and subversive books confiscated by state authorities. Nathaniel Gorham fifth President of Congress Assembled. Napoleon writes pamphlete defending Rousseau. 1787 -- German authorities publish letter by Weishaupt admitting he sought abortion for his sister-in-law; Weishaupt replies, blaming "extenuating circumstances." German Union (extension of outlawed Bavarian Illuminati) founded by Bahrdt. Washington elected President of Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia; new constitution adopted by the convention. Arthur St. Clair sixth President of Congress Assembled. Jefferson meets secretly in Paris with Brazilian rebel to discuss American aid to revolution in Brazil. Shay's Rebellion in Massachusetts to protest unfair taxes. Goethe visits Cagliostro's family in Palermo. Swedenborgian Church founded in London. Society for the Abolition of the African Slave-Trade founded in London. 1788 -- American Constitution ratified by the states. Individual American states begin to outlaw slavery. Cyrus Griffen seventh President of Congress Assembled. Paine visits London and Paris. The Federalist essays published by Hamilton, Madison and Jay. 1789 -- Washington elected President of the United States; first Congress under new Constitution. Jefferson returns to U.S. to become first Secretary of State; Hamilton becomes first Secretary of the Treasury. French Revolution begins. 1790 -- Rebellion and massacre throughout France. Cagliostro arrested by Inquisition of Rome. Bavarian edict against Reading Societies. Blake's Marriage of Heaven and Hell published. 1791 -- Napoleon joins the Jocobin Club. First Bank of the United States chartered. Burr begins converting Tammany Society into a political machine. The anonymous Vie de Joseph Balsamo (Joseph Basalmo was Cagliostro's name before he joined the Masons), first recorded link of the Illuminati and the French Revolution, appears in several European countries. Mozart's The Magic Flute, containing Masonic elements, performed. 1792 -- Washington re-elected. War between France and Austria. Louis XVI imprisoned in the Templars Temple tower. Massacres of September, in which priests, bishops and others are killed. Elections for the National Convention, a triumph for Robespierre and his followers. France declared a Republic. First Swedenborgian church in America. Catherine II outlaws Masonry in Russia. Life of Joseph Balsamo translated into English in Dublin. Assassination of Gustav III at the Stockholm opera. 1793 -- Year One of the French Republic; the year of the Terror, Louis XVI found guilty of conspiracy, condemned to be executed. French government kills thousands of its citizens. France declares war on England and the Dutch United Provinces; war breaks out with Spain and Austria; Russia and Prussia begin partition of Poland. French food riots. 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Have you ever tried leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32708-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 26 04:55:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25449 invoked by uid 1151); 26 Oct 2002 04:55:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25439 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2002 04:55:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20021026045505.51914.qmail@web13115.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:55:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Naomi See To: antsrkool , Tom Sprynczynatyk , Allister LaGelli , mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <000901c27ca1$2de61ef0$6501a8c0@kool> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1530565510-1035608105=:51749" X-Spam-Rating: 209.237.226.90 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list --0-1530565510-1035608105=:51749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die die!!!!!! antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for tiawana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" To: "Allister LaGelli" ; Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [mw] this list > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > > Tom > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site --0-1530565510-1035608105=:51749-- From mw-raves-return-32709-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 26 06:51:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53798 invoked by uid 1151); 26 Oct 2002 06:51:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53788 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2002 06:51:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:56:42 -0500 (CDT) From: X-Sender: doris@zeak.antidata.net To: Naomi See cc: what list? In-Reply-To: <20021026045505.51914.qmail@web13115.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: 209.237.226.90 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list your email is a happy hardcore label. no need to -ask- for it. On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > die!!!!!! > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for > tiawana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > Tom > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Y! 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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1721931118-1035643505=:90258" X-Spam-Rating: 209.237.226.90 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list --0-1721931118-1035643505=:90258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to hhc...... the fact that you do....frightens me Naomi- doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. no need to -ask- for it. On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > die!!!!!! > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for > tiawana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > Tom > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Y! 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site --0-1721931118-1035643505=:90258-- From mw-raves-return-32711-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 26 15:42:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41628 invoked by uid 1151); 26 Oct 2002 15:42:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41617 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2002 15:42:00 -0000 From: NothingARN@aol.com Message-ID: <4b.257b92c2.2aeafc42@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:57:54 EDT To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4b.257b92c2.2aeafc42_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 180 X-Spam-Rating: 209.237.226.90 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] **Dissociation... TONITE!!! DIRECTIONS!!** --part1_4b.257b92c2.2aeafc42_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tonight Friday, October 25, 2002 9pm-5am + All Techno! All Night!! All Right!!! This all ages event is only $10 at the door. (2 miles north of Des Moines, Iowa) PARKING IS LIMITED SO PLEASE PARK RESPONSIBLY!! >From Des Moines: Take either interstate towards 2nd ave Head north on second about a mile past Interstate 80 The venue will be on the left side of the road The address is 5268 2nd The entrance will be around at the back of the building. Please respect your fellow techno head and park responsibly. >From the East (Iowa City, Davenport, Chicago, ect.): Take Interstate 80 West towards Des Moines Stay on 80 when it merges with Interstate 35 South Take the 2nd ave exit (#135) Turn Right (north) onto Second Head north on second about a mile past Interstate 80 The venue will be on the left side of the road The address is 5268 2nd The entrance will be around at the back of the building. Please respect your fellow techno head and park responsibly. >From the West (Omaha, ect.): Take Interstate 80 East towards Des Moines Stay on 80 when it merges with Interstate 35 North Take the 2nd ave exit (#135) Turn Left (north) onto Second Head north on second about a mile past Interstate 80 The venue will be on the left side of the road The address is 5268 2nd The entrance will be around at the back of the building. Please respect your fellow techno head and park responsibly. >From the South (Kansas City, ect.): Take Interstate 35 North towards Des Moines Stay on 35 when it merges with Interstate 80 East Take the 2nd ave exit (#135) Turn Left (north) onto Second Head north on second about a mile past Interstate 80 The venue will be on the left side of the road The address is 5268 2nd The entrance will be around at the back of the building. Please respect your fellow techno head and park responsibly. >From the North (Minneapolis, ect.): Take Interstate 35 South towards Des Moines Stay on 35 when it merges with Interstate 80 West Take the 2nd ave exit (#135) Turn Right (north) onto Second Head north on second about a mile past Interstate 80 The venue will be on the left side of the road The address is 5268 2nd The entrance will be around at the back of the building. Please respect your fellow techno head and park responsibly. >From anywhere else Mapquest to Des Moines and then head north on 2nd ave 1 mile past Interstate 80. _____________________ VM: 01.515.830.1893 www.SublunaryAM.com --part1_4b.257b92c2.2aeafc42_boundary-- From mw-raves-return-32712-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Oct 26 22:32:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62443 invoked by uid 1151); 26 Oct 2002 22:32:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 62431 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2002 22:32:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:32:53 -0500 From: j3s To: midwest bullshit Message-ID: <20021025213253.GB62882@j3s.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-URL: http://www.j3s.net/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] 11.16.02 - proem & machinedrum live @ the merchandise mart, chicago advanced notice for an event that's definitely worthwhile. -------------------------------------------------------------- Simple Pleasures, IAP, and Selekta.com present... Glitch on the River (sat.11.16.02) 9 P - 3 A Dunphy's (in the merchandise mart, chicago) 222 Merchandise Mart Plaza (kinzie/wells or river side of building) CTA Brown Line to 'Merchandise Mart' stop 312.644.6240 21+ w/ i.d. to enter, $7 cover. proem (live) (merck.n5MD.component) machinedrum (live) (merck.dub) burst architecture (live) (simple_pleasures.selekta.iap) droopy (dj set) (simple_pleasures.selekta.iap) dubLX (dj set) (simple_pleasures.iap) visit: http://proemland.com http://machinedrum.net http://m3ck.net http://selekta.com coming soon: http://simplepleasures-recordings.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32713-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 00:28:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87749 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 00:28:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87738 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 00:28:06 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1035678447-18604-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:27:26 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021027002727.2F5AE4565@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list ------------=_1035678447-18604-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from hell! i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to school your ass tom spry! From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance ------------=_1035678447-18604-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Received: from hyperreal.org (unknown [209.237.226.90]) by imta09.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BE73919112B for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32543 invoked by uid 1151); 26 Oct 2002 14:45:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32532 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2002 14:45:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20021026144505.90677.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Naomi See To: doris@atomly.com Cc: what list? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1721931118-1035643505=:90258" X-Spam-Rating: 209.237.226.90 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list Sender: mw-raves-return-32710-rapture316t=planet-save.com@hyperreal.org --0-1721931118-1035643505=:90258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to hhc...... the fact that you do....frightens me Naomi- doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. no need to -ask- for it. On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > die!!!!!! > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for > tiawana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > Tom > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site -- --- - - the subliminal thought for the day is: --- - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site --0-1721931118-1035643505=:90258-- ------------=_1035678447-18604-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org ------------=_1035678447-18604-0-- From mw-raves-return-32714-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 00:34:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90137 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 00:34:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90124 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 00:34:10 -0000 Message-Id: <3DBB348C.7648BA2@tc.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:34:20 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20021027002727.2F5AE4565@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our country every year with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic racist? Asshat. Tom shepherd t wrote: > god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle > > god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from > hell! > > i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to > school your ass tom spry! > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Naomi See > To: doris@atomly.com > CC: what list? > > are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to hhc...... > the fact that you do....frightens me > Naomi- > doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. > no need to -ask- for it. > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > > > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > > die!!!!!! > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for > > tiawana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried > > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know > > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > -- > > --- - - > the subliminal thought for the day is: > > --- - - > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32715-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 01:03:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96531 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 01:03:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96520 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 01:03:56 -0000 Message-Id: <3DBB3B83.C5F67171@tc.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:04:03 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Pucci CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list Nothing says, "I'm in America" like a case of rampant asshatism. ;-) Tom Steven Pucci wrote: > ASSHAT!!!!! Fucking funny. Made my evening. > > Steven Pucci / I.P.X. > TreeHouse Collective > > treehousecollective.net > protocolbeats.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Sprynczynatyk [mailto:spry0004@tc.umn.edu] > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:34 PM > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our > country every year > with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic > racist? > > Asshat. > > Tom > > shepherd t wrote: > > > god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle > > > > god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from > > hell! > > > > i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to > > school your ass tom spry! > > > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic > country. > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long > Distance! > > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Naomi See > > To: doris@atomly.com > > CC: what list? > > > > are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to > hhc...... > > the fact that you do....frightens me > > Naomi- > > doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. > > no need to -ask- for it. > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > > > > > > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > > > die!!!!!! > > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. > drive straight for > > > tiawana > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic > country. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever > tried > > > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I > know > > > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > > > > > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > > > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Y! 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32716-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 01:06:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96998 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 01:06:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96978 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 01:06:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:05:37 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021027010538.193EB3DED@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] we're not going to take it anymore... the people know what's up...and they're not going to take it anymore... Thousands Rally Around World Against Iraq War 2 hours, 25 minutes ago By Mark Wilkinson WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of anti-war protesters marched peacefully on the White House on Saturday to express opposition to a possible U.S. attack on Iraq, some chanting slogans accusing President Bush (news - web sites) of planning genocide. Reuters Photo AP Photo Slideshow: Thousands Protest Against War in Iraq Thousands more people took part in anti-war demonstrations in San Francisco, Berlin, Amsterdam and other cities. "This is going to be an ugly, unnecessary fight. Most of the world is saying 'no' to it," civil rights leader the Rev. Jesse Jackson (news - web sites) told the crowd at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington. "Pre-emptive, one-bullet diplomacy, we cannot resort to that." In Washington, actress Susan Sarandon, who supports numerous liberal causes, accused Bush of having "hijacked our losses and our fears." Sarandon said terrorism could not be fought with violence and that most Americans did not want a conflict. "Let us resist this war," Sarandon told the cheering crowd. "Let us hate war in all its forms, whether the weapon used is a missile or an airplane." Demonstrators of all ages, many religions and many nationalities gathered at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial before marching behind Jackson to the White House. Bush, however, was in Mexico for a summit of Pacific Rim leaders. The protesters brandished signs reading: "No Proof, No War," "Bush Sucks" and "Pre-emptive Impeachment." Some protesters carried Iraqi flags. "No war, no way," shouted a protester wearing a mask of Bush with horns and a pitchfork. "George Bush, you can't hide. We charge you with genocide!" chanted the demonstrators, who were escorted by mounted U.S. Park Police and watched by 600 police officers along the route in the heart of the nation's capital. Bush has made "regime change" in Iraq -- ousting President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) -- a policy of his administration. Bush has said that if the United Nations (news - web sites) fails to compel Iraq to give up any weapons of mass destruction -- chemical, biological or nuclear arms -- it possesses, the United States would do so by force if necessary. Congress has given Bush the authorization he sought to carry out a possible attack. Police did not give an official estimate of the size of the crowd in Washington. Tony Murphy, an organizer of the event, told Reuters 150,000 people participated. Other observers put the figure between 40,000 and 50,000. 42,000 PROTEST IN SAN FRANCISCO In San Francisco, known for its liberal politics and history of activism, a crowd that police estimated at about 42,000 marched near the city's historic Ferry Building to its Civic Center. A group of about 20 children led the parade as protesters carried signs bearing pictures of Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld beneath the words "weapons of mass destruction." Other signs read: "No blood for oil" and "Regime change begins at home. Vote on Nov. 5," referring to the U.S. congressional elections. In Germany, demonstrations were staged in about 70 towns and cities. The largest was in Berlin, where almost 10,000 people marched. In Amsterdam, some 4,000 people rallied in heavy rain to protest against U.S. policy. In Washington, protesters called on Bush to spend the tens of billions of dollars that a war against Iraq could cost on social programs in the United States. They also argued that sanctions imposed on Iraq after its invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) should be lifted, blaming them for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. About 500 Iraqi exiles came to Washington to show support for efforts to remove Saddam from power. Tamir Musa, an Iraqi who has lived in Michigan for 10 years, said, "The war is good if it goes to kill Saddam Hussein. He has a lot of bombs. He's terrorist number one." "If violence fixed the problem, then Israel should be at peace," countered Rick Blumhorst of Kansas, a U.S. Gulf War veteran wearing his Army dress uniform. "Acting unilaterally, we're going to inflame the Muslim community." _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32717-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 01:13:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99431 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 01:13:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99408 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 01:13:27 -0000 Message-Id: <3DBB3DC0.402EAA3E@tc.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:13:36 -0500 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20021027004753.B715E3B26@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list My ancestors on one side were Ukranians who fled the brutal rule of Stalin. My great-grandfather lost a few toes because he had to swim across a mostly frozen Ukranian river to flee the KGB. The fact that he was being pursued because he had an illegal liquor still is, erm, inconsequential. The other side fled Ireland, just to face the height of anti-Irish discrimination in this country. You, on the other hand, are a pathetic little weiner who wouldn't know real oppression or racism if it bit him on the ass. So does your proud heritage want to talk about that little matter of the atrocities in Tibet? That racist of rags, National Geographic, quoted a Chinese merchant in Tibet as saying, "We don't understand why they resent us, we are bringing them a superior culture." We're all tainted, but while some live out pathetic, inconsequential, ineffective lives complaining, others are out there actually making things happen. Reality is what you make it, Tom shepherd t wrote: > my parents and my grand parents also arrived in this > country with very little resources...as well as many > many other minorities > > atleast you admit that the US is imperialistic in that > it maintains their ignorant belief that all non-whites > should be their slaves or their drug dealers! > > by maintaining this stereotype, you oppress minorities, > especially people like myself who have attended and > graduated from college and worked most of my life, > but you white supremist control freak idiots wanted > to maintain your stereotypes so bad that you had > intentionally oppressed me, tried setting me up with > *your* god damn drugs, and spread malicious high > school gossip style lies to maintain your oppression > of minorities! > > well, here's a clue fat boy, everyone knows what's up! > ...and if you want to bring your racist big mouth out > to the streets to get schooled bring it on! > > did you really think that laying off 10 million people, > all these people would just take your bullshit?!...it's > idiots like you that had a smack down coming for a long > time! > > --- Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: > >Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our country every year > >with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic racist? > > > >Asshat. > > > > > >Tom > > > >shepherd t wrote: > > > >> god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle > >> > >> god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from > >> hell! > >> > >> i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to > >> school your ass tom spry! > >> > >> From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > >> > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> > > >> > > >> > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > >> > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________ > >> Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > >> http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) > >> From: Naomi See > >> To: doris@atomly.com > >> CC: what list? > >> > >> are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to hhc...... > >> the fact that you do....frightens me > >> Naomi- > >> doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. > >> no need to -ask- for it. > >> > >> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > >> > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > >> > die!!!!!! > >> > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for > >> > tiawana > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > >> > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> > > >> > > >> > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > >> > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Tom > >> > > > >> > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried > >> > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know > >> > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > >> > > > > >> > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > >> > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > >> > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------- > >> > > > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > > > Y! 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > >> > >> -- > >> > >> --- - - > >> the subliminal thought for the day is: > >> > >> --- - - > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32718-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 07:41:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65437 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 07:41:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 65427 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 07:41:43 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: shepherd t To: Tom Sprynczynatyk , rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021027074153.702D5412F@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list hmmm...i just went out with two russian girls last night...they're all good in my book. my friend amy is irish, yeah she can get a temper now and then...but she's a good girl ...i got no problems with the irish. i partied with all kind of people actually i'm just sick of people stereotyping party people as bad people...i go out...i go out to have a good time. i don't need the government spying on my penis. i don't know any people from tibet, so i really can't judge them...i have no reason to hate people i have never met. but i am intelligent enough also to see through the us propaganda casting china having some problem with tibet...but i have never witnessed no such things...however, whenever i go ahead and do deep research i always find the US is full of shit...playing big brother as a disguise to conquer other nations...just a ploy to sell arms...it's sick. --- Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: >My ancestors on one side were Ukranians who fled the brutal rule of Stalin. My great-grandfather >lost a few toes because he had to swim across a mostly frozen Ukranian river to flee the KGB. The >fact that he was being pursued because he had an illegal liquor still is, erm, inconsequential. >The other side fled Ireland, just to face the height of anti-Irish discrimination in this >country. You, on the other hand, are a pathetic little weiner who wouldn't know real oppression >or racism if it bit him on the ass. So does your proud heritage want to talk about that little >matter of the atrocities in Tibet? That racist of rags, National Geographic, quoted a Chinese >merchant in Tibet as saying, "We don't understand why they resent us, we are bringing them a >superior culture." We're all tainted, but while some live out pathetic, inconsequential, >ineffective lives complaining, others are out there actually making things happen. > > >Reality is what you make it, >Tom > >shepherd t wrote: > >> my parents and my grand parents also arrived in this >> country with very little resources...as well as many >> many other minorities >> >> atleast you admit that the US is imperialistic in that >> it maintains their ignorant belief that all non-whites >> should be their slaves or their drug dealers! >> >> by maintaining this stereotype, you oppress minorities, >> especially people like myself who have attended and >> graduated from college and worked most of my life, >> but you white supremist control freak idiots wanted >> to maintain your stereotypes so bad that you had >> intentionally oppressed me, tried setting me up with >> *your* god damn drugs, and spread malicious high >> school gossip style lies to maintain your oppression >> of minorities! >> >> well, here's a clue fat boy, everyone knows what's up! >> ...and if you want to bring your racist big mouth out >> to the streets to get schooled bring it on! >> >> did you really think that laying off 10 million people, >> all these people would just take your bullshit?!...it's >> idiots like you that had a smack down coming for a long >> time! >> >> --- Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: >> >Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our country every year >> >with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic racist? >> > >> >Asshat. >> > >> > >> >Tom >> > >> >shepherd t wrote: >> > >> >> god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle >> >> >> >> god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from >> >> hell! >> >> >> >> i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to >> >> school your ass tom spry! >> >> >> >> From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" >> >> > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; >> >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, >> >> > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> >> Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! >> >> http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> >> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) >> >> From: Naomi See >> >> To: doris@atomly.com >> >> CC: what list? >> >> >> >> are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to hhc...... >> >> the fact that you do....frightens me >> >> Naomi- >> >> doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. >> >> no need to -ask- for it. >> >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and >> >> > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die >> >> > die!!!!!! >> >> > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for >> >> > tiawana >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" >> >> > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; >> >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, >> >> > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Tom >> >> > > >> >> > > Allister LaGelli wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever tried >> >> > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I know >> >> > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be >> >> > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen >> >> > > > >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > >> >> > > > --------------------------------- >> >> > > > Do you Yahoo!? >> >> > > > Y! 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Enjoy!!! :P Keith Haas 2am Artist Management ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 132 Mineral Spring Ave. Pawtucket, RI. 02860 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fon: 001.401.727.8878 Fax: 001.401.727.8822 Net: www.2amartists.com ~Digital Rythmatics @ 2am~ ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C27C84.15AAAF30-- From mw-raves-return-32721-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Oct 27 21:18:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2752 invoked by uid 1151); 27 Oct 2002 21:18:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2511 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 21:18:46 -0000 From: "Keith H." Cc: "'Sfraves@Hyperreal \(E-mail\)'" , "'Scr@Socal-Raves. Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Dcraves@Hyperreal. Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Fresnoraves@Hyperreal.Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Mtn-Raves@Hyperreal.Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Nw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Nyc-Raves@Hyperreal.Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'Sacraves@Hyperreal.Org \(E-mail\)'" Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:10:18 -0400 Organization: 2am Artist Management Message-ID: <001601c27ca5$99418050$6601a8c0@2amManagement> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C27C84.122FE050" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] URB Charts & Reviews ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C27C84.122FE050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit URB Magazine Page 118 Charts - Top 10 by 10 DJ Jes One - Shure // Groove Shop // Dust Traxx, Chicago www.2amartists.com Doc Martin - Sounds you can feel (Classic) Mateo Murphy - Contact EP (Upper Cut) Urban - Bust A Nut (Contaminated) Aaron Carl - Dance Naked (SFP) Rick Garcia - Old School Muthafucka Vol. 2 (Grassroots) Craig Alexander - TCR-003 (Transparent) The Absolute Family - Next Music (Combustible) Eddie Amador - Mochico (Mochico) Justin Long - The Mighty Mutant Disco League (IHR) Mark Farina - Connect (Om) David Garcia - Moonshine // IHR // Solmatic, San Francisco www.2amartists.com The Beginerz - Reckless Girl (Cheeky) Jay Walker - Subtitle (BFamily) Layo & Bushwacka - Love Story (Tim Deluxe remix)(XL) David Garcia & Jay Walker - Slice Of Life (In Stereo) Full Tilt - High Heat (Moonshine Red) Rubber Souls Can You Dance? (Club) Eddie Amador Psycho Ex-Girlfriend (Yoshitoshi) Tim Deluxe - It Just Won't Do (Underwater) Thick Dick - Insatiable (Sondos) Joey Mazzola - The Way We Rock (Solmatic) URB Magazine Page 108 House - 12" Reviews Blinded Junkies - Massout EP (Blinded Records) This is actually DJ Osheen in disguise showcasing his impressive production skills. "Can't Stop" is a straight ahead club banger augmented with spacey tech effects. "Yo Mira" puts the emphasis on the atmospherics, creating a tight tech-house backdrop for spirited durmming and subtly sexy vocals. The bomb kid! - Markus Flash (URB Magazine) ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C27C84.122FE050-- From mw-raves-return-32722-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 00:24:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41151 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 00:24:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41126 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 00:24:07 -0000 Message-ID: <008101c27e19$3b71ef80$31708fac@computer> From: "Pam" To: , References: <20021027010538.193EB3DED@sitemail.everyone.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:59:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Apparently-From: PaRtYnDeT@cs.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] we're not going to take it anymore... and why weren't you there??? just when i thought i had you blocked, you went and changed your email address. grrrr ----- Original Message ----- From: "shepherd t" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:05 PM Subject: [mw] we're not going to take it anymore... > the people know what's up...and they're not going to > take it anymore... > > Thousands Rally Around World Against Iraq War > 2 hours, 25 minutes ago > By Mark Wilkinson > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of anti-war protesters marched peacefully on the White House on Saturday to express opposition to a possible U.S. attack on Iraq, some chanting slogans accusing President Bush (news - web sites) of planning genocide. > > > Reuters Photo > > > AP Photo > Slideshow: Thousands Protest Against War in Iraq > > > > > Thousands more people took part in anti-war demonstrations in San Francisco, Berlin, Amsterdam and other cities. > > > "This is going to be an ugly, unnecessary fight. Most of the world is saying 'no' to it," civil rights leader the Rev. Jesse Jackson (news - web sites) told the crowd at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington. "Pre-emptive, one-bullet diplomacy, we cannot resort to that." > > > In Washington, actress Susan Sarandon, who supports numerous liberal causes, accused Bush of having "hijacked our losses and our fears." Sarandon said terrorism could not be fought with violence and that most Americans did not want a conflict. > > > "Let us resist this war," Sarandon told the cheering crowd. "Let us hate war in all its forms, whether the weapon used is a missile or an airplane." > > > Demonstrators of all ages, many religions and many nationalities gathered at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial before marching behind Jackson to the White House. Bush, however, was in Mexico for a summit of Pacific Rim leaders. > > > The protesters brandished signs reading: "No Proof, No War," "Bush Sucks" and "Pre-emptive Impeachment." Some protesters carried Iraqi flags. "No war, no way," shouted a protester wearing a mask of Bush with horns and a pitchfork. > > > "George Bush, you can't hide. We charge you with genocide!" chanted the demonstrators, who were escorted by mounted U.S. Park Police and watched by 600 police officers along the route in the heart of the nation's capital. > > > Bush has made "regime change" in Iraq -- ousting President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) -- a policy of his administration. Bush has said that if the United Nations (news - web sites) fails to compel Iraq to give up any weapons of mass destruction -- chemical, biological or nuclear arms -- it possesses, the United States would do so by force if necessary. Congress has given Bush the authorization he sought to carry out a possible attack. > > > Police did not give an official estimate of the size of the crowd in Washington. Tony Murphy, an organizer of the event, told Reuters 150,000 people participated. Other observers put the figure between 40,000 and 50,000. > > > 42,000 PROTEST IN SAN FRANCISCO > > In San Francisco, known for its liberal politics and history of activism, a crowd that police estimated at about 42,000 marched near the city's historic Ferry Building to its Civic Center. > > A group of about 20 children led the parade as protesters carried signs bearing pictures of Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld beneath the words "weapons of mass destruction." Other signs read: "No blood for oil" and "Regime change begins at home. Vote on Nov. 5," referring to the U.S. congressional elections. > > In Germany, demonstrations were staged in about 70 towns and cities. The largest was in Berlin, where almost 10,000 people marched. In Amsterdam, some 4,000 people rallied in heavy rain to protest against U.S. policy. > > In Washington, protesters called on Bush to spend the tens of billions of dollars that a war against Iraq could cost on social programs in the United States. They also argued that sanctions imposed on Iraq after its invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) should be lifted, blaming them for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. > > About 500 Iraqi exiles came to Washington to show support for efforts to remove Saddam from power. > > Tamir Musa, an Iraqi who has lived in Michigan for 10 years, said, "The war is good if it goes to kill Saddam Hussein. He has a lot of bombs. He's terrorist number one." > > "If violence fixed the problem, then Israel should be at peace," countered Rick Blumhorst of Kansas, a U.S. Gulf War veteran wearing his Army dress uniform. "Acting unilaterally, we're going to inflame the Muslim community." > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32723-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 01:54:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57265 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 01:54:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57246 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 01:54:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028015420.6EE234008@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] uh-oh...nov 9...cleveland naughty angels entertainment presents uh-oh nov. 9, 2002 @ metropolis in cleveland, ohio featuring: dj burnz (psycho trance, electrocity, LA) dj special k (psycho trance, electrocity, LA) dj deevious (holla holla production, detroit) tom e-sensual (nexxt ent., oh) chinh nguyen (next ent., cincinnati, oh) birthday shout outz: linda huynh and larry nguyen (it's a birthday party!) free giveaways all night! $10 before midnight $15 after 18 to tease - 21 to please dress to impress www.naughtyangelsent.com idiots stay home _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32724-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 02:04:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58324 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 02:04:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58302 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 02:04:41 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:04:17 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028020417.7DBFF3F90@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] gore vidal on truth behind 9/11... Gore Vidal claims 'Bush junta' complicit in 9/11 America's most controversial novelist calls for an investigation into whether the Bush administration deliberately allowed the terrorist attacks to happen Talk: Gore Vidal on Bush Observer Worldview Terrorism crisis: Observer special Sunder Katwala Sunday October 27, 2002 America's most controversial writer Gore Vidal has launched the most scathing attack to date on George W Bush's Presidency, calling for an investigation into the events of 9/11 to discover whether the Bush administration deliberately chose not to act on warnings of Al-Qaeda's plans. Vidal's highly controversial 7000 word polemic titled 'The Enemy Within' - published in the print edition of The Observer today - argues that what he calls a 'Bush junta' used the terrorist attacks as a pretext to enact a pre-existing agenda to invade Afghanistan and crack down on civil liberties at home. Vidal writes: 'We still don't know by whom we were struck that infamous Tuesday, or for what true purpose. But it is fairly plain to many civil libertarians that 9/11 put paid not only to much of our fragile Bill of Rights but also to our once-envied system of government which had taken a mortal blow the previous year when the Supreme Court did a little dance in 5/4 time and replaced a popularly elected President with the oil and gas Bush-Cheney junta.' Vidal argues that the real motive for the Afghanistan war was to control the gateway to Eurasia and Central Asia's energy riches. He quotes extensively from a 1997 analysis of the region by Zgibniew Brzezinski, formerly national security adviser to President Carter, in support of this theory. But, Vidal argues, US administrations, both Democrat and Republican, were aware that the American public would resist any war in Afghanistan without a truly massive and widely perceived external threat. 'Osama was chosen on aesthetic grounds to be the frightening logo for our long-contemplated invasion and conquest of Afghanistan ... [because] the administration is convinced that Americans are so simple-minded that they can deal with no scenario more complex than the venerable, lone, crazed killer (this time with zombie helpers) who does evil just for the fun of it 'cause he hates us because we're rich 'n free 'n he's not.' Vidal also attacks the American media's failure to discuss 11 September and its consequences: 'Apparently, "conspiracy stuff" is now shorthand for unspeakable truth.' 'It is an article of faith that there are no conspiracies in American life. Yet, a year or so ago, who would have thought that most of corporate America had been conspiring with accountants to cook their books since - well, at least the bright dawn of the era of Reagan and deregulation.' At the heart of the essay are questions about the events of 9/11 itself and the two hours after the planes were hijacked. Vidal writes that 'astonished military experts cannot fathom why the government's "automatic standard order of procedure in the event of a hijacking" was not followed'. These procedures, says Vidal, determine that fighter planes should automatically be sent aloft as soon as a plane has deviated from its flight plan. Presidential authority is not required until a plane is to be shot down. But, on 11 September, no decision to start launching planes was taken until 9.40am, eighty minutes after air controllers first knew that Flight 11 had been hijacked and fifty minutes after the first plane had struck the North Tower. 'By law, the fighters should have been up at around 8.15. If they had, all the hijacked planes might have been diverted and shot down.' Vidal asks why Bush, as Commander-in-Chief, stayed in a Florida classroom as news of the attacks broke: 'The behaviour of President Bush on 11 September certainly gives rise to not unnatural suspicions.' He also attacks the 'nonchalance' of General Richard B Myers, acting Joint Chief of Staff, in failing to respond until the planes had crashed into the twin towers. Asking whether these failures to act expeditiously were down to conspiracy, coincidence or error, Vidal notes that incompetence would usually lead to reprimands for those responsible, writing that 'It is interesting how often in our history, when disaster strikes, incompetence is considered a better alibi than .... Well, yes, there are worse things.' Vidal draws comparisons with another 'day of infamy' in American history, writing that 'The truth about Pearl Harbour is obscured to this day. But it has been much studied. 11 September, it is plain, is never going to be investigated if Bush has anything to say about it.' He quotes CNN reports that Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle to limit Congressional investigation of the day itself, ostensibly on grounds of not diverting resources from the anti-terror campaign. Vidal calls bin Laden an 'Islamic zealot' and 'evil doer' but argues that 'war' cannot be waged on the abstraction of 'terrorism'. He says that 'Every nation knows how - if it has the means and will - to protect itself from thugs of the sort that brought us 9/11 ... You put a price on their heads and hunt them down. In recent years, Italy has been doing that with the Sicilian Mafia; and no-one has suggested bombing Palermo.' Vidal also highlights the role of American and Pakistani intelligence in creating the fundamentalist terrorist threat: 'Apparently, Pakistan did do it - or some of it' but with American support. "From 1979, the largest covert operation in the history of the CIA was launched in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan ... the CIA covertly trained and sponsored these warriors.' Vidal also quotes the highly respected defence journal Jane's Defence Weekly on how this support for Islamic fundamentalism continued after the emergence of bin Laden: 'In 1988, with US knowledge, bin Laden created Al-Qaeda (The Base); a conglomerate of quasi-independent Islamic terrorist cells spread across 26 or so countries. Washington turned a blind eye to Al-Qaeda.' Vidal, 77, and internationally renowned for his award-winning novels and plays, has long been a ferocious, and often isolated, critic of the Bush administration at home and abroad. He now lives in Italy. In Vidal's most recent book, The Last Empire, he argued that 'Americans have no idea of the extent of their government's mischief ... the number of military strikes we have made unprovoked, against other countries, since 1947 is more than 250.' _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32725-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 04:29:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81761 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 04:29:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81741 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 04:29:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:29:02 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028042902.F1D743940@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] second annual trick or beats bash ww/ bad boy bill...nov 02...columbus second annual trick or beats bash ww/ bad boy bill...nov 02...columbus mythodic productions and ritual saturdays present: sat.nov.02 bad boy bill - btd: behind the decks/www.badboybill.com/chicago as you all well know this guy needs no introduction in columbus. saturday nov 2nd. bill returns to once again rock cow-town from start to finish. this show will sell out so you must get there early to gain entry to this event. steve smooth - IHR/chicago quantum - mythodic/ritual/columbus sponsored by: mix connection multimedia, inc mythodic, snug, international house records, moody, behind the decks, www.bobasic.com, am only dress code: as it should be: come as you are 18+ welcome (for both girls and guys w/ proper ID) $15 general admission before 11pm $20 after 11pm more info: 614.326.6475 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32726-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 04:55:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85059 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 04:54:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85049 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 04:54:59 -0000 To: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" , "mw-raves" Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:45:02 -0500 From: "nemesis XO" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: the_sickness@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service X-Priority: 3 X-Sender-Ip: 12.216.8.72 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list warning: farkster on the loose. --- "when all soldiers lay their weapons down, or when all kings and queens relinquish their crowns, there will be sorrow no more." --Bad Religion On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:04:03 Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: >Nothing says, "I'm in America" like a case of rampant asshatism. ;-) > > >Tom > >Steven Pucci wrote: > >> ASSHAT!!!!! Fucking funny. Made my evening. >> >> Steven Pucci / I.P.X. >> TreeHouse Collective >> >> treehousecollective.net >> protocolbeats.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Sprynczynatyk [mailto:spry0004@tc.umn.edu] >> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:34 PM >> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> >> Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our >> country every year >> with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic >> racist? >> >> Asshat. >> >> Tom >> >> shepherd t wrote: >> >> > god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle >> > >> > god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from >> > hell! >> > >> > i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to >> > school your ass tom spry! >> > >> > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" >> > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; >> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> > > >> > > >> > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, >> > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic >> country. >> > >> > _____________________________________________________________ >> > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long >> Distance! >> > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) >> > From: Naomi See >> > To: doris@atomly.com >> > CC: what list? >> > >> > are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to >> hhc...... >> > the fact that you do....frightens me >> > Naomi- >> > doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. >> > no need to -ask- for it. >> > >> > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and >> > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die >> > > die!!!!!! >> > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. >> drive straight for >> > > tiawana >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" >> > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; >> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list >> > > >> > > >> > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, >> > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic >> country. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Tom >> > > > >> > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > ____________________________________________________________ Get 250 full-color business cards FREE right now! http://businesscards.lycos.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32727-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 07:21:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8790 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 07:21:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8777 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 07:21:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:20:47 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "Pam" , rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028072047.68ECE431B@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] we're not going to take it anymore... where are these new posers coming from? it's so obvious who is real on here and who are the posers now...the posers are always the control freaks that try to make others block me to cover up the government corruption! because the real people know not to question me when they see i am one of the few people who actually post about parties on here, when the posers just pop up to get people to block me to cover-up the government corruption! --- "Pam" wrote: >and why weren't you there??? just when i thought i had you blocked, _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32728-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 07:37:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10381 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 07:37:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10371 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 07:37:06 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:37:07 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pietrow1@pilot.msu.edu, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028073707.8FA183E03@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] we're not going to take it anymore... here you go poser pam, want to try to cover this up to... Clinton Aide Slams Pentagon's UFO Secrecy By Richard Stenger CNN Amateur video of glowing orbs in a strange formation over Arizona in 1997. Thousands of witnesses saw the so-called Phoenix Lights. One winter night in 1965, eyewitnesses saw a fireball streak over North America, bank, turn and appear to crash in western Pennsylvania. Then swarms of military personnel combed the area and a tarp-covered flatbed truck rumbled out of the woods. Now a former White House chief of staff and an international investigative journalist want to know what the Pentagon knows, calling on it to release classified files about that and other incidents involving unidentified flying objects, or UFOs. "It is time for the government to declassify records that are more than 25 years old and to provide scientists with data that will assist in determining the real nature of this phenomenon," ex-Clinton aide John Podesta said Tuesday. A Pentagon spokesperson could not be reached for comment regarding the requests for information. Despite earning little credence, cases of strange aerial phenomena that defy explanation abound -- whether witnessed by thousands of Arizona residents, commercial airline pilots or a U.S. president. The new initiative is not setting out to prove the existence of aliens. Rather the group wants to legitimize the scientific investigation of unexplained aerial phenomena. Podesta was one of numerous political and media heavyweights on hand in Washington, D.C., to announce a new group to gain access to secret government records about UFOs. Specifically, the Coalition for Freedom of Information (CFI) is pressing the Air Force for documents involving Project Moon Dust and Operation Blue Fly, clandestine operations reported to have existed decades ago to investigate UFOs and retrieve objects of unknown origins. Mysterious case? One of the most mysterious cases, the Kecksburg, Pennsylvania incident of December 5, 1965, is the first cited in the group's request for records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Despite an official government story that the object was a meteorite, some eyewitnesses claimed that a military truck took an acorn-shaped object the size of a small car from the rural Pennsylvania crash site to an Air Force base in Ohio. "We can't come up with a reason why this information is being withheld. The government won't even acknowledge that the incident took place but we know that it did," said Leslie Kean, a California-based freelance reporter who drafted the FOIA request. In the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, the government did take the UFO search seriously and top generals considered the pros and cons of informing the U.S. public, Kean said, citing top secret memos. In 1969, however, the Air Force terminated Project Blue Book, concluding that no reported UFOs were threats to national security. Paradoxically, Kean notes, the military continues to deny some requests for UFO information by citing national security concerns. Trying to stamp out ridicule Backed by the Sci-Fi channel, the CFI hopes to reduce the scientific ridicule factor in this country when the topic is UFOs. "There's definitely evidence of strange phenomenon in the world. These are well documented," said Kean, who has written for The Nation, the Boston Globe and the International Herald Tribune. "Most people don't think that there is evidence because they haven't look for it. There's such a little green men mindset in this culture. It's hard to work your way through that." The CFI director Ed Rothschild also works for Podesta's public relations firm, PodestaMattoon, which is coordinating the new group at the behest of the Sci- Fi channel. He said the initiative was a call for serious investigation, not a publicity stunt for the cable network. "The Sci-Fi channel has had an interest in [UFOs] for some time. The difference here is that they are focusing attention on the serious, factual side of the issue, and that scientists have not had a chance to thoroughly examine it," Rothschild said. --- here's a hint for the rest of the posers/control freaks: intentionally oppressing me, setting me up with government illegal drugs or paying off moles to spread your high school lies doesn't help when the whole city knew i was a case graduate that had worked almost all my life and i don't even smoke cigarettes! _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32729-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 07:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12909 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 07:58:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12899 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 07:58:20 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:58:23 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028075823.38D624438@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] illuminati world history part 2... --- shepherd t wrote: >it's a little known fact that the three wise men / the >three kings from the east that went to Bethlehem to see >baby christ were some of the original MIB's...they were >asians too! from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/secret014.html 44 -- Assassination of Julius Caesar. 4 -- Birth of Jesus of Nazareth, accompanied by various Illuminoid trappings: three early Men-In-Black disguised as the Wise Men; strange lights in the sky; miracles such as visits from angels, prohpecy and suspension of time are reported. 0 -- Carnation-Painted Eyebrows Society, Copper Horses, Iron Shins and other secret societies active in China. C.E. 30 -- Assassination of the radical Jesus, allegedly on Illuminati orders; more Illuminoid trappings; an eclipse; an earthquake; visitorsfrom the sky roll away the stone from the sepulcher and liberate the crucified Jesus. --- +50 STP's for replying to my own post! _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32730-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 12:56:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93824 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 12:56:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93802 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 12:56:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028125625.A1E7F3E56@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] return of the prodical son in the jeffersonian bible... prophecy is fulfilled once again... from http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/ The Sabbath. The bidden to a feast. Precepts. Parables of the lost sheep and the Prodigal son... The Jefferson Bible The Life and Morals of Jesus CHAPTER 9. AND it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him. 2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy. 3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day? 4 And they held their peace. 5 And he saith unto them, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? 6 And they could not answer him again to these things. 7 And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them. 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9 And he that bade thee and him shall come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. 12 Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee. 13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: 14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: 16 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. 17 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. 18 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. 19 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. 20 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind. 21 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. 22 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 23 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper. For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 25 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 26 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. 27 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 28 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. 30 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them. 31 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, 32 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 33 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 34 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 35 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. 36 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it? 37 And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost. 38 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. 39 And he said, A certain man had two sons: 40 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living. 41 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living. 42 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want. 43 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 44 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him. 45 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! 46 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, 47 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants. 48 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. 49 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. 50 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: 51 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry: 52 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry. 53 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. 54 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant. 55 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound. 56 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him. 57 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: 58 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf. 59 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. 60 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32731-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 14:43:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9148 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 14:43:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9126 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 14:43:18 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:42:54 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021028144254.944363BC5@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] let the record show... let the record show that the white supremist control freaks took a third generation american born chinese who was related to the first emperor of china, graduated from case western reserve university, was employed for almost four years at a fortune 500 company, was in a serious relationship with a girl for almost 2 years, solved over 60 world problems for free...intentionally oppressed him and tried setting him up with *their* sins ...and further destroyed his career and reputation by spreading high school style gossip. let the record show that caesar wanted war to feed the beast of violence, greed, corruption, and racism here in america...and he achieved it through deception, manipulation, and lies. let the record show that the media glorified the evil and mocked the righteous and holy. t 316 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32732-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 16:57:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38586 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 16:57:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38576 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 16:57:02 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:10:53 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 900/1000/N Subject: [mw] Paul Anthony and Acidman - FREE - This Monday Monday October 28th - 10/28/02 Paul Anthony - Disco House - Underground Construction - Chicago, IL Known for his flawless blends, inspiring trickery, and excellent track selection, Paul can definitely rock any crowd. 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TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32733-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 17:10:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41771 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 17:10:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41739 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 17:10:45 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:07:28 -0500 From: "Chris Dooley" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] 2am spam i believe this is spam? this group isnt made for this... these people are spamming everyone in sight. and are now attacking on topic groups that do not include serial spammers = such as these people that spam every yahoogroup known to man. plus it is unrelated to the subject at hand!!! please do not allow 2am artists to infiltrate hyperreal with their nonstop = spamming, i beg you! moderator where is the boot please? d follows is the start of the spam if it isnt stopped now. it will continue to fill your inboxes consistently until everyone = unsubscribes. mark my word.... >>> "Keith H." 10/26/02 12:10AM >>> ...peep the new Alex Peace joints titled "High Society 2 - Faded"... strictly for the tru-schoolas... resident dickheads need not apply! 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Fucking funny. Made my evening. Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sprynczynatyk [mailto:spry0004@tc.umn.edu] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:34 PM To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [mw] this list Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our country every year with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic racist? Asshat. Tom shepherd t wrote: > god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle > > god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from > hell! > > i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to > school your ass tom spry! > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Naomi See > To: doris@atomly.com > CC: what list? > > are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to hhc...... > the fact that you do....frightens me > Naomi- > doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. > no need to -ask- for it. > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > > > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > > die!!!!!! > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive straight for > > tiawana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. 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TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32738-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 23:23:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84173 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 23:23:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84138 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 23:23:30 -0000 Message-Id: <3DBDC70B.C6DDB239@tc.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:23:56 -0600 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: the_sickness@lycos.com CC: mw-raves References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list Farking right! Tom nemesis XO wrote: > warning: farkster on the loose. > --- > "when all soldiers lay their weapons down, > or when all kings and queens relinquish their crowns, > there will be sorrow no more." > --Bad Religion > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:04:03 > Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote: > >Nothing says, "I'm in America" like a case of rampant asshatism. ;-) > > > > > >Tom > > > >Steven Pucci wrote: > > > >> ASSHAT!!!!! Fucking funny. Made my evening. > >> > >> Steven Pucci / I.P.X. > >> TreeHouse Collective > >> > >> treehousecollective.net > >> protocolbeats.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tom Sprynczynatyk [mailto:spry0004@tc.umn.edu] > >> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:34 PM > >> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> > >> Ummm...just why is stating that lots of Mexicans make their way into our > >> country every year > >> with few financial resources and that the US is rich and imperialistic > >> racist? > >> > >> Asshat. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> shepherd t wrote: > >> > >> > god damn, this list has gotten as racist as pb-cle > >> > > >> > god damn, white supremist control freak idiots from > >> > hell! > >> > > >> > i hope a bunch of mexicans organize themselves to > >> > school your ass tom spry! > >> > > >> > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > >> > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > >> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > >> > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic > >> country. > >> > > >> > _____________________________________________________________ > >> > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long > >> Distance! > >> > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) > >> > From: Naomi See > >> > To: doris@atomly.com > >> > CC: what list? > >> > > >> > are you kidding me?????? see i didnt know this because i dont listen to > >> hhc...... > >> > the fact that you do....frightens me > >> > Naomi- > >> > doris@atomly.com wrote:your email is a happy hardcore label. > >> > no need to -ask- for it. > >> > > >> > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > >> > > >> > > > >> > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its drab and > >> > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- fuckers....die die > >> > > die!!!!!! > >> > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. > >> drive straight for > >> > > tiawana > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > >> > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > >> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year with very little money, > >> > > surely you could do the same coming from such a rich, imperialistic > >> country. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Tom > >> > > > > >> > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week award. Have you ever > >> tried > >> > > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes cash, lots of it. I > >> know > >> > > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya know. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like our country it may be > >> > > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always leave - vozen > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > > >> > > > > --------------------------------- > >> > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > > > > Y! 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I've begun referring to it as the "Stevie Schizophrenia Count." I think when he gets to 100 his head explodes and we all get kewpie dolls. Tom Matt Murphy wrote: > > solved over 60 world problems for free...intentionally > > wait a sec now... back up... it's 60 now? I thought it was like 35 a few > weeks ago... stevie's been busy! > > Matt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32740-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 23:29:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89033 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 23:29:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89023 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 23:29:54 -0000 Message-Id: <3DBDC88A.3E5059D8@tc.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:30:18 -0600 From: Tom Sprynczynatyk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20021028144254.944363BC5@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] let the record show... I call made-for-TV movie rights! We're already talking with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon to play the oppressive CIA rave agents, and Andy Dick has expressed interest in the lead. Tom shepherd t wrote: > let the record show that the white supremist control > freaks took a third generation american born chinese > who was related to the first emperor of china, graduated > from case western reserve university, was employed for > almost four years at a fortune 500 company, was in a > serious relationship with a girl for almost 2 years, > solved over 60 world problems for free...intentionally > oppressed him and tried setting him up with *their* sins > ...and further destroyed his career and reputation by > spreading high school style gossip. > > let the record show that caesar wanted war to feed the > beast of violence, greed, corruption, and racism here > in america...and he achieved it through deception, > manipulation, and lies. > > let the record show that the media glorified the evil > and mocked the righteous and holy. > > t > 316 > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32741-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Oct 28 23:56:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11473 invoked by uid 1151); 28 Oct 2002 23:56:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11463 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 23:56:39 -0000 Message-ID: <003501c27ede$695039a0$cdcea8ac@computer> From: "Pam" To: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" , , References: <20021028144254.944363BC5@sitemail.everyone.net> <3DBDC88A.3E5059D8@tc.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:46:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Apparently-From: PaRtYnDeT@cs.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] let the record show... Stevie, had any good visions lately? I deal w/people like this on a daily basis. The other day I had a guy recognize me from work, at a store. He continued to tell me about his visions while I was trying to go through the self-checkout.....noticing the huge line behind me. He even has a website where he puts these visions. maybe you 2 should compare notes.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" To: ; Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [mw] let the record show... > I call made-for-TV movie rights! We're already talking with Ben Affleck and Matt > Damon to play the oppressive CIA rave agents, and Andy Dick has expressed interest in > the lead. > > > Tom > > shepherd t wrote: > > > let the record show that the white supremist control > > freaks took a third generation american born chinese > > who was related to the first emperor of china, graduated > > from case western reserve university, was employed for > > almost four years at a fortune 500 company, was in a > > serious relationship with a girl for almost 2 years, > > solved over 60 world problems for free...intentionally > > oppressed him and tried setting him up with *their* sins > > ...and further destroyed his career and reputation by > > spreading high school style gossip. > > > > let the record show that caesar wanted war to feed the > > beast of violence, greed, corruption, and racism here > > in america...and he achieved it through deception, > > manipulation, and lies. > > > > let the record show that the media glorified the evil > > and mocked the righteous and holy. > > > > t > > 316 > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32742-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 00:17:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18066 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 00:17:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18055 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 00:17:24 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:14:40 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "Matt Murphy" , mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021029001440.BF4A73FDA@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] let the record show... that's because i was off of mw-raves for awhile. ...and had posted the rest on pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org. --- "Matt Murphy" wrote: >> solved over 60 world problems for free...intentionally > > wait a sec now... back up... it's 60 now? I thought it was like 35 a few >weeks ago... stevie's been busy! > >Matt > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32743-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 00:24:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24392 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 00:24:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24371 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 00:24:34 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:24:15 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "Nick S" , maggiethefoxy1@hotmail.com, rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Cc: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021029002415.B3535443C@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} we're not going to take it anymore... remember how it started... ariel sharon went to rachel's tomb and recieved some anti-semitic remarks. he comes back with his cru and they storm the place. then the palestinians started throwing rocks at the israeli soldiers who eventually started shooting back. some how it escalated to tanks and helicopters with rocket launchers. but who sold all these people these crazy weapons? it would have been alot safer if they had just settled the battle with an xbox simulation game! --- "Nick S" wrote: > >dont delude yourself...the isrealis are just as committing just as many ac= ts=20 >of terrorism and genocide as hamas, al-queda, iraq, or america...the=20 >isrealis have killed just as many palestinian children as the palestinians= =20 >have killed isreali children... > >if you dont believe this open your eyes and read some news that doesnt com= e=20 >from the american media which is controlled by major corporations(ge,=20 >westinghouse, aol)...and start reading ap, reuters, and bbc news... > > >>From: "Maggie Brown" >>To: rapture316t@planet-save.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org >>CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: {pbcleBS} we're not going to take it anymore... >>Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:28:36 -0500 >> >>This approach to war is not upsetting the peace of our country for the sa= ke=20 >>of another countries people who live over an ocean. This is an approach t= o=20 >>a group of terroristic, suicidal, and threatining that are attacking our= =20 >>own country. We only plan to go into all out war with them if they are=20 >>conspiring to attack us again. It's not like we're stepping in to help ou= t=20 >>the isrealis, they've been getting slaughtered for a good deal of time=20 >>already, but we haven't put thousands of our soilders lives in almost=20 >>definite fatal sitiuations with their enemy. But what they're doing to th= e=20 >>isreali people is unimaginable to me. The attrocitities take dozens of=20 >>lives weekly, all ages. These people arent going to ever try to be=20 >>peaceful, they want to annilahate everything they think they should. It's= =20 >>scary, and if my government thinks they should try to stop this crisis of= =20 >>humanity for the well being of our world, then I have faith in their=20 >>desicions. If this group cannot live amongst it's brothers without trying= =20 >>to slaughter them, then they shouldn't be tolerated while killing off our= s. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: shepherd t >>>Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com >>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org >>>CC: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: {pbcleBS} we're not going to take it anymore... >>>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:05:37 -0700 (PDT) >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>X-Originating-IP: [65.173.32.8] >>>Received: from hyperreal.org ([209.237.226.90]) by=20 >>>mc7-f35.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 26= =20 >>>Oct 2002 18:06:11 -0700 >>>Received: (qmail 97001 invoked by uid 1162); 27 Oct 2002 01:06:01 -0000 >>>Received: (qmail 96978 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2002 01:06:00 -0000 >>>Received: from sitemail3.everyone.net (HELO omta01.mta.everyone.net)=20 >>>(216.200.145.37) by taz3.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Oct 2002 01:06:00= =20 >>>-0000 >>>Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (dsnat [216.200.145.62])by=20 >>>omta01.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTPid 2D0441C694C; Sat, 26 Oct= =20 >>>2002 18:05:38 -0700 (PDT) >>>Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99)id 193EB3DED= ;=20 >>>Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:05:38 -0700 (PDT) >>>Mailing-List: contact pb-cle-raves-ot-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm >>>Precedence: bulk >>>X-No-Archive: yes >>>X-list-help: >>>X-list-unsubscribe: >>>X-list-post: >>>X-files: where is mulder? >>>Delivered-To: mailing list pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org >>>X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) >>>Message-Id: <20021027010538.193EB3DED@sitemail.everyone.net> >>>X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N >>>Return-Path:=20 >>>pb-cle-raves-ot-return-14612-maggiethefoxy1=3Dhotmail.com@hyperreal.org >>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 01:06:11.0752 (UTC)=20 >>>FILETIME=3D[0A410280:01C27D55] >>> >>>the people know what's up...and they're not going to >>>take it anymore... >>> >>>Thousands Rally Around World Against Iraq War >>>2 hours, 25 minutes ago >>>By Mark Wilkinson >>> >>>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of anti-war protesters marched= =20 >>>peacefully on the White House on Saturday to express opposition to a=20 >>>possible U.S. attack on Iraq, some chanting slogans accusing President= =20 >>>Bush (news - web sites) of planning genocide. >>> >>> >>>Reuters Photo >>> >>> >>>AP Photo >>> Slideshow: Thousands Protest Against War in Iraq >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Thousands more people took part in anti-war demonstrations in San=20 >>>Francisco, Berlin, Amsterdam and other cities. >>> >>> >>>"This is going to be an ugly, unnecessary fight. Most of the world is=20 >>>saying 'no' to it," civil rights leader the Rev. Jesse Jackson (news - w= eb=20 >>>sites) told the crowd at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington.=20 >>>"Pre-emptive, one-bullet diplomacy, we cannot resort to that." >>> >>> >>>In Washington, actress Susan Sarandon, who supports numerous liberal=20 >>>causes, accused Bush of having "hijacked our losses and our fears."=20 >>>Sarandon said terrorism could not be fought with violence and that most= =20 >>>Americans did not want a conflict. >>> >>> >>>"Let us resist this war," Sarandon told the cheering crowd. "Let us hate= =20 >>>war in all its forms, whether the weapon used is a missile or an=20 >>>airplane." >>> >>> >>>Demonstrators of all ages, many religions and many nationalities gathere= d=20 >>>at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial before marching behind Jackson to the= =20 >>>White House. Bush, however, was in Mexico for a summit of Pacific Rim=20 >>>leaders. >>> >>> >>>The protesters brandished signs reading: "No Proof, No War," "Bush Sucks= "=20 >>>and "Pre-emptive Impeachment." Some protesters carried Iraqi flags. "No= =20 >>>war, no way," shouted a protester wearing a mask of Bush with horns and = a=20 >>>pitchfork. >>> >>> >>>"George Bush, you can't hide. We charge you with genocide!" chanted the= =20 >>>demonstrators, who were escorted by mounted U.S. Park Police and watched= =20 >>>by 600 police officers along the route in the heart of the nation's=20 >>>capital. >>> >>> >>>Bush has made "regime change" in Iraq -- ousting President Saddam Hussei= n=20 >>>(news - web sites) -- a policy of his administration. Bush has said that= =20 >>>if the United Nations (news - web sites) fails to compel Iraq to give up= =20 >>>any weapons of mass destruction -- chemical, biological or nuclear arms = --=20 >>>it possesses, the United States would do so by force if necessary.=20 >>>Congress has given Bush the authorization he sought to carry out a=20 >>>possible attack. >>> >>> >>>Police did not give an official estimate of the size of the crowd in=20 >>>Washington. Tony Murphy, an organizer of the event, told Reuters 150,000= =20 >>>people participated. Other observers put the figure between 40,000 and= =20 >>>50,000. >>> >>> >>>42,000 PROTEST IN SAN FRANCISCO >>> >>>In San Francisco, known for its liberal politics and history of activism= ,=20 >>>a crowd that police estimated at about 42,000 marched near the city's=20 >>>historic Ferry Building to its Civic Center. >>> >>>A group of about 20 children led the parade as protesters carried signs= =20 >>>bearing pictures of Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites)= =20 >>>and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld beneath the words "weapons of= =20 >>>mass destruction." Other signs read: "No blood for oil" and "Regime chan= ge=20 >>>begins at home. Vote on Nov. 5," referring to the U.S. congressional=20 >>>elections. >>> >>>In Germany, demonstrations were staged in about 70 towns and cities. The= =20 >>>largest was in Berlin, where almost 10,000 people marched. In Amsterdam,= =20 >>>some 4,000 people rallied in heavy rain to protest against U.S. policy. >>> >>>In Washington, protesters called on Bush to spend the tens of billions o= f=20 >>>dollars that a war against Iraq could cost on social programs in the=20 >>>United States. They also argued that sanctions imposed on Iraq after its= =20 >>>invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) shou= ld=20 >>>be lifted, blaming them for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi= =20 >>>civilians. >>> >>>About 500 Iraqi exiles came to Washington to show support for efforts to= =20 >>>remove Saddam from power. >>> >>>Tamir Musa, an Iraqi who has lived in Michigan for 10 years, said, "The= =20 >>>war is good if it goes to kill Saddam Hussein. He has a lot of bombs. He= 's=20 >>>terrorist number one." >>> >>>"If violence fixed the problem, then Israel should be at peace," counter= ed=20 >>>Rick Blumhorst of Kansas, a U.S. Gulf War veteran wearing his Army dress= =20 >>>uniform. "Acting unilaterally, we're going to inflame the Muslim=20 >>>community." >>> >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long= =20 >>>Distance! >>>http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance >>> >>> >>>----- >>>Hobbies & Interests: your final saviour >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN.=20 >>http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> >> >> >>----- Hobbies & Interests: your final saviour > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get faster connections=A0-- switch to=A0MSN Internet Access!=20 >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Di= stance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32744-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 00:29:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27112 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 00:29:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26863 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 00:28:57 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:09:07 -0500 (CDT) From: la petite poisson To: Steven Pucci cc: jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? WHY ARE YOU YELLING? --------------------------------------------------- (anabug.com) On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Steven Pucci wrote: > THIS EVENT IS IN "CHICAGO", NOT DEKALB. > AND IS AT NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY NOT NIU. > NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY > THANK YOU. =) > > > Steven Pucci / I.P.X. > TreeHouse Collective > > treehousecollective.net > protocolbeats.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: jp@phreak.net [mailto:jp@phreak.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:23 AM > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? > > > Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am > KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe > 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! > Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. > With enough room to fit 600+ > > Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all > night!! > > Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro > LiveWire - Electromagntechno > I.P.X. - Filtered Funk > Casper - Jungle > Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno > DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass > Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! > > for more info dial 312.409.2626 > or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net > > I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells > like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, > or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a > pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32745-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 00:30:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28122 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 00:30:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28083 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 00:30:49 -0000 Message-ID: <006e01c27ee2$78c12df0$2df8a618@core> From: "Josh [M]" To: , References: <20021028144254.944363BC5@sitemail.everyone.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:31:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: let the record show... Let the record show that Stevie T's head is made of elephant poop. HERE IS THE PROOF! http://stevie.t.does.it.pornstarstyle.com/poop.jpg J.[M] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32746-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 00:46:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37678 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 00:46:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37667 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 00:46:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:46:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jen Anderson To: la petite poisson Cc: Steven Pucci , , In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021028184527.I55032-100000@neuromancer.r-t-f-m.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? BECAUSE ANA, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW. NOBODY WILL KNOW UNLESS YOU YELL IT. I NEVER READ THESE POSTS ANYMORE, BUT I READ THAT ONE! BECAUSE THERE WAS YELLING! -JEN SIXTYBUS! -People are stupid and it's inhumane to not remind them. On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, la petite poisson wrote: > WHY ARE YOU YELLING? > > > > --------------------------------------------------- (anabug.com) > > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Steven Pucci wrote: > > > THIS EVENT IS IN "CHICAGO", NOT DEKALB. > > AND IS AT NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY NOT NIU. > > NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY > > THANK YOU. =) > > > > > > Steven Pucci / I.P.X. > > TreeHouse Collective > > > > treehousecollective.net > > protocolbeats.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jp@phreak.net [mailto:jp@phreak.net] > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:23 AM > > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? > > > > > > Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am > > KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe > > 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! > > Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. > > With enough room to fit 600+ > > > > Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all > > night!! > > > > Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro > > LiveWire - Electromagntechno > > I.P.X. - Filtered Funk > > Casper - Jungle > > Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno > > DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass > > Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! > > > > for more info dial 312.409.2626 > > or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net > > > > I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells > > like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, > > or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a > > pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32747-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 01:16:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51103 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 01:16:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51090 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 01:16:02 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: "Mw-Raves@Hyperreal.Org" Cc: komputeinchicago@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:16:39 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Your Brain on Mondays - TreeHouse Collective Paul Anthony had to cancel due to a emergency. So instead we are proud to bring you..... DYLAN DRAZEN remains, NYC Very special impromptu dj set. Acid Man - House - Bunch Lox - Chicago, IL Regular releases on Bunch Lox and many other labels. Acid Man will show you how House music is done! Raymond Baer - Nu School Breaks - BMC - Chicago, IL FREE EVENT 21+ 2$ Rail and Bud Light Drafts 2345 W. Belmont 312.409.2626 TREEHOUSECOLLECTIVE.NET Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32748-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 01:27:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54781 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 01:27:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54771 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 01:27:54 -0000 Message-Id: <000901c27ee9$f724d0a0$6501a8c0@slmboy> From: "Matt Murphy" To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:24:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Your Brain on Mondays - TreeHouse Collective > Paul Anthony had to cancel due to a emergency. > So instead we are proud to bring you..... Wow, we've certainly never heard of him doing *that* before... Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32749-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 15:47:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42909 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 15:47:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42899 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 15:47:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:47:11 -0600 From: j3s To: midwest bullshit Message-ID: <20021029154711.GA5547@j3s.net> References: <1035847795.89060.ezmlm@hyperreal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1035847795.89060.ezmlm@hyperreal.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-URL: http://www.j3s.net/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: 11.16.02 - proem & machinedrum live @ the merchandise mart, chicago > How did they pull the merchandise mart off? That's pretty cool :D > Is the scene coming back??? rave is dead. it's at a bar in the mart ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32750-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 17:56:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4443 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 17:56:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4394 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 17:56:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:56:12 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E88@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Picture request Thread-Index: AcJ/YnaLaXi0XPQbS+ynhfQjGHs6pgAEQj+g From: "Tony Sebion" To: "midwest bullshit" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Picture request Anyone out here have a digital photo of Ed Cetera they can share? I think it might count as saving the world, so you'd score 1 compared to stevie t's 60 or so. I missed when they give the updated numbers on CNN this morning. thanks so much, -t --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32751-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 18:06:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13266 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 18:06:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13255 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 18:06:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:12:37 -0600 (CST) From: X-Sender: doris@zeak.antidata.net To: shepherd t cc: what list? In-Reply-To: <20021028042902.F1D743940@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] second annual trick or beats bash ww/ bad boy bill...nov 02...columbus isnt he dead or something? On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, shepherd t wrote: > second annual trick or beats bash ww/ bad boy bill...nov 02...columbus > > mythodic productions and ritual saturdays > present: > sat.nov.02 > > bad boy bill - btd: behind the decks/www.badboybill.com/chicago > as you all well know this guy needs no introduction in columbus. > saturday nov 2nd. bill returns to once again rock cow-town > from start to finish. this show will sell out so you must > get there early to gain entry to this event. > > steve smooth - IHR/chicago > > quantum - mythodic/ritual/columbus > > sponsored by: mix connection multimedia, inc > mythodic, snug, international house records, > moody, behind the decks, www.bobasic.com, > am only > > dress code: as it should be: come as you are > 18+ welcome (for both girls and guys w/ proper ID) > > $15 general admission before 11pm > $20 after 11pm > > more info: 614.326.6475 > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > -- --- - - the subliminal thought for the day is: --- - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32752-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 19:23:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80148 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 19:23:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80135 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 19:23:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20021029192402.64592.qmail@web13206.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:24:02 -0800 (PST) From: Casey To: doris@atomly.com, Naomi See Cc: what list? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list blow it out your nose your mother wears combat boots this list blows, what list? .clb --- doris@atomly.com wrote: > your email is a happy hardcore label. > no need to -ask- for it. > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > > > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its > drab and > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- > fuckers....die die > > die!!!!!! > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i > think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive > straight for > > tiawana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year > with very little money, > > surely you could do the same coming from such a > rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week > award. Have you ever tried > > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes > cash, lots of it. I know > > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya > know. > > > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like > our country it may be > > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always > leave - vozen > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Y! 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HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32753-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 19:28:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81543 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 19:28:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81533 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 19:28:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:34:23 -0600 (CST) From: X-Sender: doris@zeak.antidata.net To: Casey cc: Naomi See , what list? In-Reply-To: <20021029192402.64592.qmail@web13206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] this list whatchoo talkin' bout?! that is not a good insult! try again, tiger. On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Casey wrote: > blow it out your nose > your mother wears combat boots > this list blows, what list? > > .clb > > --- doris@atomly.com wrote: > > your email is a happy hardcore label. > > no need to -ask- for it. > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Naomi See wrote: > > > > > > > > this list needs more fire under its ass.....its > > drab and > > > blah.....someone pick a fight with me c'mon! n0mi- > > fuckers....die die > > > die!!!!!! > > > antsrkool wrote:werd. i > > think u can buy a house in mexico for a grand. drive > > straight for > > > tiawana > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" > > > To: "Allister LaGelli" ; > > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: [mw] this list > > > > > > > > > > Millions of Mexicans get into ours every year > > with very little money, > > > surely you could do the same coming from such a > > rich, imperialistic country. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Allister LaGelli wrote: > > > > > > > > > This deserves the idiotic comment of the week > > award. Have you ever tried > > > leaving this country? Its not simple,and it takes > > cash, lots of it. I know > > > I've tried. We really are trapped as slaves, so ya > > know. > > > > > > > > > > Vozen@aol.com wrote:this list is kinda like > > our country it may be > > > fucked up but if you dont like it you can always > > leave - vozen > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Y! 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > > -- > > > > --- - - > > the subliminal thought for the day is: > > > > > > --- - - > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > ===== > Thursday October 31st 2002 - Halloween > Friday November 1st 2002 - All Saints' Day > Saturday November 2nd 2002 - Wicked'02 - 734.489.0202 > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > -- --- - - the subliminal thought for the day is: --- - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32754-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 29 23:52:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97774 invoked by uid 1151); 29 Oct 2002 23:52:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97753 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 23:52:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:20 -0600 From: nf To: Jen Anderson Cc: la petite poisson , Steven Pucci , jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021029235220.GJ3183@marginal.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jen Anderson , la petite poisson , Steven Pucci , jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org References: <20021028184527.I55032-100000@neuromancer.r-t-f-m.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021028184527.I55032-100000@neuromancer.r-t-f-m.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? OMG WTF STFU PLZ K THX ^_^ On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 06:46:37PM -0600, Jen Anderson wrote: > BECAUSE ANA, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW. NOBODY WILL KNOW UNLESS YOU YELL > IT. > > > I NEVER READ THESE POSTS ANYMORE, BUT I READ THAT ONE! BECAUSE THERE WAS > YELLING! > > -JEN SIXTYBUS! > > -People are stupid and it's inhumane to not remind them. > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, la petite poisson wrote: > > > WHY ARE YOU YELLING? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- (anabug.com) > > > > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Steven Pucci wrote: > > > > > THIS EVENT IS IN "CHICAGO", NOT DEKALB. > > > AND IS AT NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY NOT NIU. > > > NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY > > > THANK YOU. =) > > > > > > > > > Steven Pucci / I.P.X. > > > TreeHouse Collective > > > > > > treehousecollective.net > > > protocolbeats.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jp@phreak.net [mailto:jp@phreak.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:23 AM > > > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? > > > > > > > > > Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am > > > KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe > > > 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! > > > Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. > > > With enough room to fit 600+ > > > > > > Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all > > > night!! > > > > > > Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro > > > LiveWire - Electromagntechno > > > I.P.X. - Filtered Funk > > > Casper - Jungle > > > Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno > > > DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass > > > Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! > > > > > > for more info dial 312.409.2626 > > > or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net > > > > > > I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells > > > like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, > > > or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a > > > pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP -- nathan a ferch nf@marginal.net "Trust me. It will be bad." -Spengler --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32755-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 01:07:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26978 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 01:07:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26966 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 01:07:20 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [12.255.21.56] From: "DJ NightShade" To: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:07:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C27F76.1C201BD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2002 01:07:19.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1C90C70:01C27FB0] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Top 11 Tekno ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C27F76.1C201BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable heres whats in heavy rotation in no particular order: Mhonolink/ Dust Path EP/ Mhonday Andreas Kauffelt/ The Real Deep Shit/ Confused C. Liebing/ Next Try RMXs/ CLR Gaetano P./ Ch. 6/ Southsoul Luke Slater/ I can complete you/ mute Royal Flesh/ Nude Celebrities/ Sativae Mr G./ Back 2 Da House EP/ Alpha S I Futures/ Eurostar/ Novamute WLA Garcia/ Work in Progress/ Bush Headroom/ Regular Beating Noise/ Contamin8ted Bryan Zentz/ Equal/ Bush __________________________ DJ Deadly NightShade email: dj@djdeadlynightshade.net http://www.djnightshade.net __________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C27F76.1C201BD0-- From mw-raves-return-32756-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 01:23:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36435 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 01:23:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36422 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 01:23:23 -0000 Message-ID: <003a01c27fb2$f44209b0$eea81941@bill> From: "William Bunyan" To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:23:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Top 11 Tekno ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "DJ NightShade" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: [mw] Top 11 Tekno heres whats in heavy rotation in no particular order: DUDE! YOU FORGOT THE NEW MISSY ELLIOT JAM!!!!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32757-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 02:55:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74651 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 02:55:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74638 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 02:55:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:53:44 -0600 (CST) From: la petite poisson To: Jen Anderson cc: Steven Pucci , jp@phreak.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20021028184527.I55032-100000@neuromancer.r-t-f-m.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? OH, BECAUSE I WAS REALLY CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS GUY WAS YELLING BUT NOW I TOTALLY GET IT. THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP! --------------------------------------------------- (anabug.com) On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Jen Anderson wrote: > BECAUSE ANA, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW. NOBODY WILL KNOW UNLESS YOU YELL > IT. > > > I NEVER READ THESE POSTS ANYMORE, BUT I READ THAT ONE! BECAUSE THERE WAS > YELLING! > > -JEN SIXTYBUS! > > -People are stupid and it's inhumane to not remind them. > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, la petite poisson wrote: > > > WHY ARE YOU YELLING? > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- (anabug.com) > > > > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Steven Pucci wrote: > > > > > THIS EVENT IS IN "CHICAGO", NOT DEKALB. > > > AND IS AT NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY NOT NIU. > > > NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY > > > THANK YOU. =) > > > > > > > > > Steven Pucci / I.P.X. > > > TreeHouse Collective > > > > > > treehousecollective.net > > > protocolbeats.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jp@phreak.net [mailto:jp@phreak.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:23 AM > > > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: [mw] Who is going to Knights of the Round Table? > > > > > > > > > Tomorrow night in Dekalb, Ill, NIU campus (10/25) 8p-1am > > > KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLe > > > 100% FREE EVENT /w a Costume!! ALL AGES!!!! > > > Full-Scale Lighting, Sound, and Decorations. > > > With enough room to fit 600+ > > > > > > Costume Contest for fun prizes and FREE giveaways all > > > night!! > > > > > > Phil No Free Art - Old School Electro > > > LiveWire - Electromagntechno > > > I.P.X. - Filtered Funk > > > Casper - Jungle > > > Gabriel Palomo - Dark Techno > > > DJ Dubious - Drum & Bass > > > Plus a FULL Scale afterhours event!!!! > > > > > > for more info dial 312.409.2626 > > > or visit http://www.treehousecollective.net > > > > > > I am either going to go as an anarchist cheerleader (like in the "Smells > > > like Teen Spirit" video) or barefoot and pregnant with a mutant raver alien, > > > or a big pouch of raver toys so I can rip open my belly at midnight like a > > > pinata for all the raver boys and girls. JP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32758-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 03:37:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81572 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 03:37:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81552 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 03:37:13 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:36:58 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030033658.CAD074028@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] they can't even cheat and win now... these are the idiots they have working at the CIA now... hyperTROUT: you like the white powder Son316east: nah, that's a white thang hyperTROUT: up your nose, up your ass, whereever else you can put it hyperTROUT: WHITE POWER WHITE PRIDE Son316east: i like layla...i love layla hyperTROUT: is she pure aryan blood? hyperTROUT: she better be Son316east: i think so Son316east: i am royal pure asian hyperTROUT: that is not pure Son316east: related to the first emperor related to noah and adam Son316east: i am more pure and righteous than you can ever be in your entire life hyperTROUT: but not to jesus hyperTROUT: WHITE POWER WHITE PRIDE Son316east: i am one of the most righteous men ever since jesus...i am the prophesized one...the least in the kingdom of heaven that shall be greater than john... Son316east: you're most probably from the caininite line hyperTROUT: you would not be fucking around with whores and trash hyperTROUT: WHITE POWER WHITE PRIDE Son316east: i have never fucked around with a whore hyperTROUT: layla is an impure whore. Son316east: layla was pure...gerrad tainted her Son316east: i am clean Son316east: i've been tested hyperTROUT: so you think Son316east: i'm a clean freak too...don't even smoke cigarettes Son316east: had the highest presidential fitness score in high school Son316east: and middle school Son316east: probably not anymore though hyperTROUT: i think you were doing H Son316east: what's h? hyperTROUT: heroin you fool Son316east: heroin?...aren't u supposed to inject it? hyperTROUT: you were fucked up at cook the goose Son316east: no i wasn't, i only drank, unless somebody slipped me something in the shot i did w/ jea Son316east: i had none of your CIA coke hyperTROUT: you never know what i slipped you in your shot. hyperTROUT: muahahahhahaaaa Son316east: figures Son316east: u guys cheat Son316east: i drink coke though Son316east: you coke heads always think others do coke Son316east: when we don't Son316east: only rich folk can afford coke...i'm not rich hyperTROUT: ask the list who they believe Son316east: i don't do coke hyperTROUT: they believe the one true voice Son316east: i don't even smoke cigarettes Son316east: i speak truth Son316east: you're a notorious compulsive liar hyperTROUT: ask the list. they believe ME. hyperTROUT: not you. Son316east: that's because they'll say anything for free drugs from you Son316east: u should just rename the list: trout's drug rats hyperTROUT: then why are you wasting your time. hyperTROUT: we own all the mailing lists. hyperTROUT: you are a fool for wasting your time Son316east: i was on the list before it got changed to trout's drug rats Son316east: i was on the list when it was pure hyperTROUT: haha hyperTROUT: when was that? Son316east: you anti-christ spirits came in and tainted it hyperTROUT: pffft Son316east: you're just like jinx except instead of the pot calling the kettle black, you're the coke calling the kettle white...lol hyperTROUT: i'm not the cokehead hyperTROUT: you are the cokehead Son316east: um i don't even like coke, stupid Son316east: and slipping it in my drink doen't count either! hyperTROUT: WHITE POWDER WHITE PRIDE Son316east: shut up stupid white powder man hyperTROUT: WHITE POWDER STEVIES NOSE Son316east: keep your shit to yourself hyperTROUT: WHITE POWER WHITE PRIDE Son316east: you don't even have the right KKK chant Son316east: god damn poser Son316east: you're not even pure white Son316east: you're part japanese hyperTROUT: you don't know shit Son316east: god damn poser Son316east: lol...you were one of those idiots calling me a jap...when i'm chinese not japanese...and you were the one that was part japanese Son316east: hypocrite hyperTROUT: never said i was kkk you fool hyperTROUT: you are the inferior race. you fool Son316east: actually according to the bible and the guiness book of world records, asians are the most intelligent hyperTROUT: you are proof they are not Son316east: lol....the whole world knows the CIA cheated and lied to put me down Son316east: and ended up cursing themselves by the word of God hyperTROUT: the CIA does not lie Son316east: the CIA is based on deception and manipulation which is lies Son316east: the CIA was founded to be professional liars Son316east: but by signing up to be CIA, you signed into the forbidden fruit of knowledge and signed away your soul to work for the brotherhood of the snake and the skull and bones / death hyperTROUT: what the fuck. snake and skull and bones and death Son316east: that is why you are a cocaine snorting notiorious compulsive liar hyperTROUT: are you some dungeons and dragons freak? Son316east: if you do not know, then i am certain that you are a poser hyperTROUT: WHITE POWER WHITE PRIDE Son316east: poser KKK hyperTROUT: poser white boy Son316east: there isn't one thing true about you Son316east: later liar _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32759-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 05:38:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13516 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 05:38:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13494 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 05:37:59 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:37:42 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "trout" , pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030053742.DA05D3A58@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} they can't even cheat and win now... i can't wait til they ship you out to iraq for one of their spy on saddam's penis missions. you'll probably get so excited, you choke on your coke...then they'll have to make up some wack story about how iraqi secret service forced you to snort your own coke until you choked to death as an excuse to bomb iraq! --- "trout" wrote: >d00d, i gots a j0b and you dont. y0u are s0 jeal0us. thats why you keep >asking me how much i make, you want my job > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "shepherd t" > > >> these are the idiots they have working at the CIA now... > > > >----- >Hobbies & Interests: your final saviour _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32760-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 07:29:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37623 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 07:29:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37612 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 07:29:49 -0000 From: GemTwinx11@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:29:58 EST To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a7.29404cdc.2af0e476_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 180 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? --part1_a7.29404cdc.2af0e476_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what would you all consiter.... if you had to make a list of what you thought the top ten DJ's for D&B were... what would you say? --part1_a7.29404cdc.2af0e476_boundary-- From mw-raves-return-32761-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 09:38:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59095 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 09:38:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59073 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 09:38:18 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:38:30 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "trout" , pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030093830.574C3E4B7@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} they can't even cheat and win now... i'll pass on being a part of the Cocaine Import Agency. http://www.ciadrugs.com/ --- "trout" wrote: >d00d, i gots a j0b and you dont. y0u are s0 jeal0us. thats why you keep >asking me how much i make, you want my job _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32762-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 09:55:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61930 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 09:55:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61911 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 09:55:06 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030095446.5E1A43D5C@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] true intelligence underground... AMERICA'S POLITICAL PRISONERS FEDERAL AGENTS AND OPERATIVES SENT TO PRISON TO PREVENT EXPOSING CRIMINAL A= CTIVITIES BY HIGH-LEVEL GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL AND JUDGES Although virtually unknown to the average uninformed American citizen, the = United States does have its political prisoners. But instead of imprisoning= these government agents and citizens for their political belief, they have= become prisoners so as to silence their exposing of criminal activities by= people holding key government positions. This would include false charges and prison sentences to silence federal ag= ents, such as FBI, DEA, INS, and others, from reporting their knowledge of = drug trafficking by the CIA, DEA, and military, or any of the other scandal= s described in the author's two books, the third edition of Defrauding Amer= ica and the third edition of Unfriendly Skies. These falsely accused people have suffered great harm, as have their famili= es. But also suffering from this standard practice, involving employees of = the various divisions of the U.S. Department of Justice and cooperating fed= eral judges and Supreme Court justices, are the American people. Because of= these felony retaliation charges and offenses, the American people are kep= t uninformed of the criminal and subversive acts perpetrated against them, = causing them to continue suffering the great harm that accompanies the vari= ous criminal activities detailed and documented in the author's two books. Many of these victims are described in the author's books, and a sampling o= f these victims will be placed on this and related web sites from time to t= ime. A few of them are listed here at this time, and include, for instance: Richard Taus. For ten years Taus was a special agent for the Federal Bureau= of Investigation, working out of the New York City office. He held a commi= ssion in the U.S. Army reserve, and prior to that, he was a helicopter pilo= t and highly decorated officer in Vietnam. Many people had seen him on tele= vision in the mid-1970s as the concerned American who adopted a Vietnamese = orphan. While investigating drug trafficking activities in the Pizza Connec= tion drug cases with former U.S. Attorney Louis Freeh, he discovered and re= ported CIA involvement with organized crime in drug trafficking, and the dr= ug activities that funded terrorist cells in the New Jersey and New York ar= eas. Taus's bosses at the FBI, and Louis Freeh, covered up for these activi= ties, and when Taus persisted in reporting the serious CIA involvement with= criminal elements in drug trafficking, the standard procedure of filing fa= lse charges against him was put into place. Federal and then cooperating st= ate officials in New York filed false charges against Taus and he was sente= nced to 80 years in prison. The terrorist cells that continued functioning = after Taus' activities were stopped included the terrorist cells that later= bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, that initiated plans to place bombs= on 11 U.S. airliners departing Far East locations, and terrorist cells bel= ieved involved in the September 11, 2001, terrorist hijackings. Another we= b site provides additional information about this courageous person who bec= ame a victim of the corruption in government that he sought to expose.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Ronald Rewald. Rewald was the head of a large and secret CIA operation base= d in Honolulu in the 1980s. This is the operation that took over from the i= nfamous CIA operation known as Nugan Hand Bank, which was staffed with many= CIA officials and had offices throughout the world, and primarily the Far = East. This operation included drug money laundering, helping to hide Ferdin= and and Imelda Marcos' assets, setting up and funding secret bank accounts = for some very well known U.S. political figures. When the cover was blown o= n the operation by a Honolulu television reporter, the CIA and Justice Depa= rtment filed sham charges against the very loyal figure head, Ronald Rewald= . Many things were done to make this cover-up succeed, including using the = federal judge to block Rewald from having CIA personnel appear as witnesses= and baring Rewald from introducing hundreds of documents showing he was a = CIA agent. Rewald was then sentenced to 81 years for allegedly making off w= ith large sums of money. This is the money that the CIA moved after its cov= er was blown. Rewald was involved in negotiations with Afghan Northern Alli= ance General Rashid Dostum in 1995, who was offering to give several dozen = surface-to-air missiles to the United States that were being sought by Afgh= an terrorists. The refusal by CIA-FBI personnel enabled the terrorists to a= cquire the missiles several months before the downing of TWA Flight 800.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Stephen Crittenden. Crittenden was the head of a secret CIA airline for abo= ut 16 years. In the 1998 edition of Defrauding America, Crittenden details = and documents how the CIA provided him with planes and money, had him carry= drugs to and from various Far East locations in CIA-provided C-123s, and t= hen when he was given C-130s, carrying drugs to the United States. A sworn = affidavit given to Rodney Stich by Crittenden was entered in 1995 into a fe= deral court proceeding in Phoenix, which details much of this activity. Aft= er Crittenden became concerned about the drug trafficking and shut down the= airline, the CIA and Justice Department went after him, using the standard= false charge routine, and sentencing him to federal prison.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Gunther Russbacher. Russbacher had a very long and colorful history with th= e CIA and Office of Naval Intelligence, much of it detailed in the 1998 Def= rauding America. He was involved in the 1960s and 1970s in various covert a= ctivities in Europe and Vietnam, he helped set up the Medellin and Cali Car= tels for the CIA, and were involved in many diverse operations in the cover= t agencies where compartmentalization is more normal.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Oswald LeWinter. LeWinter. is another long-time OSS and CIA operative whose= covert activities, like Gunther Russbacher, crossed over into many highly = sensitive areas. Because of his knowledge of highly sensitive covert activi= ties that at best could be called, criminal, it became necessary to discred= it him by falsely charging him with federal offenses and sending him to pri= son.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Lester Coleman. Coleman was a part-time agent for the Defense Intelligence = Agency (DIA), working in the Middle East under cover of the Christian Broad= cast Network, in Beirut and Nicosia. He speaks many languages, including Ar= abic, and was especially useful in that area. During this activity, while w= orking out of the DEA office in Nicosia., he discovered a drug pipeline orc= hestrated by the CIA and DEA, using Pan American aircraft out of Frankfurt.= This drug pipeline was also composed of Lebanese and Syrian drug trafficke= rs. It was this drug operation that made possible the placement of the bomb= on board Pan Am Flight 103. After Coleman gave a sworn affidavit into the = Pan American litigation, which showed that the CIA and DEA drug operation m= ade possible the placement of the bomb on Pan Am Flight 103, the Justice De= partment gang started their usual sham charges, falsely charging Coleman wi= th a passport violation.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- John Carman. Former Secret Service and U.S. Customs agent, he was harassed = and prosecuted after he persisted in exposing high-level protection of Mexi= can drug trafficking. He is described in Drugging America book.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- James Douglas Alexander, attorney in Montana, who was prosecuted by federal= and Montana officials after he persisted in reported local, state, and fed= eral government officials involved in drug trafficking from Canada into Mon= tana. He is described in Drugging America book.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- John "Sparky" McLaughlin, senior agent with the Pennsylvania Bureau of Narc= otics, was repeatedly ordered to ignore drug trafficking and eventually suf= fered retaliation when he continued to carry out his official duties.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Joseph Occhipinti, senior agent for U.S. Customs in New York, suffered seve= re Justice Department retaliation after he continued to report heavy drug t= rafficking activities in the New York City area involving Dominican crime g= roups and drug money going to U.S. politicians. Among the people receiving = funds from these drug activities were terrorist cells in the New Jersey and= New York areas, including the terrorist cells that in 1993 bombed the Worl= d Trade Center, who initiated plans to place bombs on 11 U.S. airliners dep= artment Far East locations, and who are believed to have funded the Septemb= er 11, 2001, terrorist hijackings.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Darlene Novinger, a beautiful contract agent for the FBI, who discovered li= nks between a major Lebanese drug smuggling family and Vice President Georg= e Bush and his son, Jeb Bush, and who suffered retaliation after reporting = what she discovered. Earlier, she discovered and reported drug offenses by = five prosecutors in Pennsylvania's attorney general office, under Pennsylva= nia Attorney General Richard Thornburgh, who was later appointed Attorney G= eneral of the United States by the senior President George Bush.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Bradley Ayers, a veteran of the CIA's Cuba operations and later a contract = agent for the DEA, who discovered CIA related drug smuggling and widespread= cover-up of drug smuggling by groups working with U.S. government agents, = and who suffered the usual retaliation through misuse of government power a= nd government offices when he reported these matters. While working for the= Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), his group prepared a report sh= owing that terrorists would probably use hijacked U.S. airliners to ram int= o prominent buildings. The report was--as is normal in U.S. culture--ignore= d.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- George McCullough, a veteran Texas state investigator, who discovered and r= eported drug smuggling by key officers in the Texas National Guard, reporte= d the cover-ups by U.S. agencies of drug smuggling involving the CIA and ma= jor Mexican drug cartels, and who suffered retaliation for making the repor= ts.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Basil "Bo" Abbott, a pilot flying arms and drugs for the DEA and CIA during= the Contra operation, who exposed intricate details of these matters.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- James "Taus" Plumlee, who was a CIA asset from 1956 to 1987, describes the= CIA role in drug smuggling.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Gene Tatum, a helicopter pilot for the U.S. Army and the CIA, described det= ails of the drug smuggling, the involvement of Oliver North, Arkansas state= police, and others.=20=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Rumaldo Salis. Salis was a 15-year-veteran of the Immigration and Naturaliz= ation Service (INS), was falsely charged and sent to prison to silence his = reporting of the DEA involvement in a major drug smuggling operation along = the Texas-Mexican border where a Texas-based DEA officer, allegedly in char= ge of the smuggling operation, killed a Mexican laborer who had found the D= EA officer's wallet and identification. As standard practice, Justice Depar= tment and other federal law enforcement personnel, and members of Congress,= covered up for these crimes, causing them to become criminally implicated.= =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Michael Riconosciuto. Riconosciuto was a CIA operative working on various d= eep-cover operations, including those occurring at the Cabazon Indian Reser= vation in California. He discovered secret and felonious acts by officials = in the Reagan Administration, including the Inslaw matter (described in Def= rauding America). When he was ordered to give testimony about the Inslaw ma= tter to a closed-door Congressional group, he was threatened with retaliati= on by a Justice Department official. After giving the testimony, the threat= s were carried out, and Riconosciuto was falsely charged with drug offenses= and is now in federal prison on a long prison sentence. Some of those impl= icated in the Inslaw matter and false imprisonment of Riconosciuto are now = in key judicial and other government positions.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Rodney Stich. Former federal air safety inspector, responsible for air safe= ty at United Airlines' most senior program during a period of repeated fata= l airline crashes, including a crash into New York City that was the world'= s worst at that time. His attempts to carry out the federal government's ai= r safety responsibilities in the face of a culture of internal corruption r= esulted in the usual retaliation. As he sought to report these tragedy-rela= ted criminal activities to a federal court, he suffered further retaliation= from federal judges and Justice Department prosecutors. This retaliation i= s detailed in the books, Unfriendly Skies and Defrauding America, and in a = federal lawsuit that continues the pattern of judicial obstruction of justi= ce and judicial retaliation. End result: September 11, 2001 terrorist hijac= kings, prior fatal hijackings, and many other tragic consequences from the = corruption and the duplicity of cover-ups by virtually every government and= non-government check and balance.=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- This is a partial list of the political prisoners who made the mistake of r= eporting criminal activities implicating key people in government and cover= t operations that were crimes against the United States and its people. Mos= t of these people have provided years of information and documentation to f= ormer federal agent Rodney Stich, which can be found in his various books: = Defrauding America, Drugging America, and Unfriendly Skies. More people wil= l be added as time permits.=20 This information should be part of a continuing course on the culture of co= rruption in the U.S. government and how the American people, by their state= of denial, have suffered the consequences of this endemic criminality. =20 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Di= stance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32763-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 11:01:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73888 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 11:01:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73865 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 11:01:09 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 03:01:15 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: rapture316t@planet-save.com, pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030110116.6CF0A11E23@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] skull and bones and opium and why china hates opium... Son316east: but by signing up to be CIA, you signed into the forbidden frui= t of knowledge and signed away your soul to work for the brotherhood of the= snake and the skull and bones / death hyperTROUT: what the fuck. snake and skull and bones and death Son316east: that is why you are a cocaine snorting notiorious compulsive liar hyperTROUT: are you some dungeons and dragons freak? Son316east: if you do not know, then i am certain that you are a poser --- here, read this stupid... from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/secret022.html... The background to Skull and Bones is a story of Opium and Empire, and a=20 bitter struggle for political control over the new U.S. republic.=20 Samuel Russell, second cousin to Bones founder William H., established=20 Russell and Company in 1823. Its business was to acquire opium from Turkey= =20 and smuggle it into China, where it was strictly prohibited, under the arme= d=20 protection of the British Empire.=20 The prior, predominant American gang in this field had been the syndicate= =20 created by Thomas Handasyd Perkins of Newburyport, Massachusetts, an=20 aggregation of the self-styled ``blue bloods'' or Brahmins of Boston's nort= h=20 shore. Forced out of the lucrative African slave trade by U.S. law and=20 Caribbean slave revolts, leaders of the Cabot, Lowell, Higginson, Forbes,= =20 Cushing and Sturgis families had married Perkins siblings and children. The= =20 Perkins opium syndicate made the fortune and established the power of these= =20 families. By the 1830s, the Russells had bought out the Perkins syndicate a= nd=20 made Connecticut the primary center of the U.S. opium racket. Massachusetts= =20 families (Coolidge, Sturgis, Forbes and Delano) joined Connecticut (Alsop)= =20 and New York (Low) smuggler-millionaires under the Russell auspices.=20 ** Certain of the prominent Boston opium families, such as Cabot and Weld,= =20 did not affiliate directly with Russell, Connecticut and Yale, but were=20 identified instead with Harvard.=20 John Quincy Adams and other patriots had fought these men for a quarter=20 century by the time the Russell Trust Association was set up with its open= =20 pirate emblem--Skull and Bones.=20 With British ties of family, shipping and merchant banking, the old New=20 England Tories had continued their hostility to American independence after= =20 the Revolutionary War of 1775-83. These pretended conservative patriots=20 proclaimed Thomas Jefferson's 1801 presidential inauguration ``radical=20 usurpation.''=20 The Massachusetts Tories (``Essex Junto'') joined with Vice President Aaron= =20 Burr, Jr. (a member of the Connecticut Edwards and Pierpont families) and= =20 Burr's cousin and law partner Theodore Dwight, in political moves designed = to=20 break up the United States and return it to British allegiance.=20 The U.S. nationalist leader, former Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton,= =20 exposed the plan in 1804. Burr shot him to death in a duel, then led a famo= us=20 abortive conspiracy to form a new empire in the Southwest, with territory t= o=20 be torn from the U.S.A. and Spanish Mexico. For the ``blue bloods,'' the=20 romantic figure of Aaron Burr was ever afterwards the symbol of British=20 feudal revenge against the American republic.=20 The Connecticut Tory families hosted the infamous Hartford Convention in=20 1815, toward the end of the second war between the U.S. and Britain (the Wa= r=20 of 1812). Their secessionist propaganda was rendered impotent by America's= =20 defensive military victory. This faction then retired from the open politic= al=20 arena, pursuing instead entirely private and covert alliances with the=20 British Empire. The incestuously intermarried Massachusetts and Connecticut= =20 families associated themselves with the British East India Company in the= =20 criminal opium traffic into China. These families made increased profits as= =20 partners and surrogates for the British during the bloody 1839-42 Opium War= ,=20 the race war of British forces against Chinese defenders.=20 Samuel and William Huntington Russell were quiet, wary builders of their=20 faction's power. An intimate colleague of opium gangster Samuel Russell wro= te=20 this about him:=20 While he lived, no friend of his would venture to mention his name in print= .=20 While in China, he lived for about twenty-five years almost as a hermit,=20 hardly known outside of his factory [the Canton warehouse compound] except = by=20 the chosen few who enjoyed his intimacy, and by his good friend, Hoqua=20 [Chinese security director for the British East India Company], but studyin= g=20 commerce in its broadest sense, as well as its minutest details. Returning= =20 home with well-earned wealth he lived hospitably in the midst of his family= ,=20 and a small circle of intimates. Scorning words and pretensions from the=20 bottom of his heart, he was the truest and staunchest of friends; hating=20 notoriety, he could always be absolutely counted on for every good work whi= ch=20 did not involve publicity.=20 The Russells' Skull and Bones Society was the most important of their=20 domestic projects ``which did not involve publicity.''=20 A police-blotter type review of Russell's organization will show why the=20 secret order, though powerful, was not the unique organ of ``conspiracy'' f= or=20 the U.S. Eastern Establishment. The following gentlemen were among Russells= '=20 partners:=20 Augustine Heard (1785-1868): ship captain and pioneer U.S. opium smuggler.= =20 John Cleve Green (1800-75): married to Sarah Griswold; gave a fortune in=20 opium profits to Princeton University, financing three Princeton buildings= =20 and four professorships; trustee of the Princeton Theological Seminary for = 25=20 years. Abiel Abbott Low (1811-93): his opium fortune financed the=20 construction of the Columbia University New York City campus; father of=20 Columbia's president Seth Low. John Murray Forbes (1813-98): his opium=20 millions financed the career of author Ralph Waldo Emerson, who married=20 Forbes's daughter, and bankrolled the establishment of the Bell Telephone= =20 Company, whose first president was Forbes's son. Joseph Coolidge: his=20 Augustine Heard agency got $10 million yearly as surrogates for the Scottis= h=20 dope-runners Jardine Matheson during the fighting in China; his son organiz= ed=20 the United Fruit Company; his grandson, Archibald Cary Coolidge, was the=20 founding executive officer of the Anglo-Americans' Council on Foreign=20 Relations. Warren Delano, Jr.: chief of Russell and Co. in Canton;=20 grandfather of U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Russell Sturgis: h= is=20 grandson by the same name was chairman of the Baring Bank in England,=20 financiers of the Far East opium trade. Such persons as John C. Green and= =20 A.A. Low, whose names adorn various buildings at Princeton and Columbia=20 Universities, made little attempt to hide the criminal origin of their=20 influential money. Similarly with the Cabots, the Higginsons and the Welds= =20 for Harvard. The secret groups at other colleges are analogous and closely= =20 related to Yale's Skull and Bones.=20 --- this is why selling opium to chinese is like selling swastikas to jews... from http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/ChinaDragon/lin_xexu.html Letter of Advice to Queen Victoria=20 (use your browser's Back button to return) >From Ssuyu Teng and John Fairbank, China's Response to the West (Cambridge = MA: Harvard University Press, 1954), reprinted in Mark A. Kishlansky, ed., = Sources of World History, Volume II, (New York: HarperCollins CollegePublis= hers, 1995), pp. 266-69 Kishlansky Introduction: Lin Zexu (1785-1850) was the Chinese Commissioner = in Canton whose actions precipitated the Opium Wars (1839-1842). Although o= pium was used in China for centuries, it was not until the opening of the t= ea trade to Dutch and British merchants that China was able to import large= quantities of the drug. By the early nineteenth century opium was the prin= cipal product that the English East India Company traded in China and opium= addiction was becoming a widespread social problem. When the emperor's own= son died of an overdose, he decided to put an end to the trade. Lin Zexu w= as sent to Canton, the chief trading port of the East India Company, with i= nstructions to negotiate an end to the importation of opium into China. The= English merchants were uncooperative, so he seized their stores of opium. = This led to immediate military action. The Chinese were decisively defeated= and had to cede to a humiliating treaty that legalized the opium trade. As= a result commissioner Lin was dismissed from office and sent into exile.= =20 Lin Zexu's "Letter of Advice to Queen Victoria" was written before the outb= reak of the Opium Wars. It was a remarkably frank document, especially give= n the usual highly stylized language of Chinese diplomacy. There remains so= me question whether Queen Victoria ever read the letter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- The letter: A communication: magnificently our great Emperor soothes and pacifies China= and the foreign countries, regarding all with the same kindness. If there = is profit, then he shares it with the peoples of the world; if there is har= m, then he removes it on behalf of the world. This is because he takes the = mind of heaven and earth as his mind.=20 The kings of your honorable country by a tradition handed down from generat= ion to generation have always been noted for their politeness and submissiv= eness. We have read your successive tributary memorials saying, "In general= our countrymen who go to trade in China have always received His Majesty t= he Emperor's gracious treatment and equal justice." and so on. Privately we= are delighted with the way in which the honorable rulers of your country d= eeply understand the grand principles and are grateful for the Celestial gr= ace. For this reason the Celestial Court in soothing those from afar has re= doubled its polite and kind treatment. The profit from trade has been enjoy= ed by them continuously for two hundred years. This is the source from whic= h your country has become known for its wealth.=20 But after a long period of commercial intercourse, there appear among the c= rowd of barbarians both good persons and bad, unevenly. Consequently there = are those who smuggle opium to seduce the Chinese people and so cause the s= pread of the poison to all provinces. Such persons who only care to profit = themselves, and disregard their harm to others, are not tolerated by the la= ws of heaven and are unanimously hated by human beings. His Majesty the Emp= eror, upon hearing of this, is in a towering rage. He has especially sent m= e, his commissioner, to come to Kwangtung [Guangdong], and together with th= e governor-general and governor jointly to investigate and settle this matt= er.=20 All those people in China who sell opium or smoke opium should receive the = death penalty. We trace the crime of those barbarians who through the years= have been selling opium, then the deep harm they have wrought and the grea= t profit they have usurped should fundamentally justify their execution acc= ording to law. We take into to consideration, however, the fact that the va= rious barbarians have still known how to repent their crimes and return to = their allegiance to us by taking the 20,183 chests of opium from their stor= eships and petitioning us, through their consular officer [superintendent o= f trade], Elliot, to receive it. It has been entirely destroyed and this ha= s been faithfully reported to the Throne in several memorials by this commi= ssioner and his colleagues.=20 Fortunately we have received a specially extended favor Born His Majesty th= e Emperor, who considers that for those who voluntarily surrender there are= still some circumstances to palliate their crime, and so for the time bein= g he has magnanimously excused them from punishment. But as for those who a= gain violate the opium prohibition, it is difficult for the law to pardon t= hem repeatedly. Having established new regulations, we presume that the rul= er of your honorable country, who takes delight in our culture and whose di= sposition is inclined towards us, must be able to instruct the various barb= arians to observe the law with care. It is only necessary to explain to the= m the advantages and advantages and then they will know that the legal code= of the Celestial Court must be absolutely obeyed with awe.=20 We find your country is sixty or seventy thousand li [three li make one mil= e, ordinarily] from China Yet there are barbarian ships that strive to come= here for trade for the purpose of making a great profit. The wealth of Chi= na is used to profit the barbarians. That is to say, the great profit made = by barbarians is all taken from the rightful share of China. By what right = do they then in return use the poisonous drug to injure the Chinese people?= Even though the barbarians may not necessarily intend to do us harm, yet i= n coveting profit to an extreme, they have no regard for injuring others. L= et us ask, where is your conscience? I have heard that the smoking of opium= is very strictly forbidden by your country; that is because the harm cause= d by opium is clearly understood. Since it is not permitted to do harm to y= our own country, then even less should you let it be passed on to the harm = of other countries -- how much less to China! Of all that China exports to = foreign countries, there is not a single thing which is not beneficial to p= eople: they are of benefit when eaten, or of benefit when used, or of benef= it when resold: all are beneficial. Is there a single article from China wh= ich has done any harm to foreign countries? Take tea and rhubarb, for examp= le; the foreign countries cannot get along for a single day without them. I= f China cuts off these benefits with no sympathy for those who are to suffe= r, then what can the barbarians rely upon to keep themselves alive? Moreove= r the woolens, camlets, and longells [i.e., textiles] of foreign countries = cannot be woven unless they obtain Chinese silk. If China, again, cuts off = this beneficial export, what profit can the barbarians expect to make? As f= or other foodstuffs, beginning with candy, ginger, cinnamon, and so forth, = and articles for use, beginning with silk, satin, chinaware, and so on, all= the things that must be had by foreign countries are innumerable. On the o= ther hand, articles coming from the outside to China can only be used as to= ys. We can take them or get along without them. Since they are not needed b= y China, what difficulty would there be if we closed our the frontier and s= topped the trade? Nevertheless, our Celestial Court lets tea, silk, and oth= er goods be shipped without limit and circulated everywhere without begrudg= ing it in the slightest. This is for no other reason but to share the benef= it with the people of the whole world. The goods from China carried away by= your country not only supply your own consumption and use, but also can be= divided up and sold to other countries, producing a triple profit. Even if= you do not sell opium, you still have this threefold profit. How can you b= ear to go further, selling products injurious to others in order to fulfill= your insatiable desire?=20 Suppose there were people from another country who carried opium for sale t= o England and seduced your people into buying and smoking it; certainly you= r honorable ruler would deeply hate it and be bitterly aroused. We have hea= rd heretofore that your honorable ruler is kind and benevolent. Naturally y= ou would not wish to give unto others what you yourself do not want. We hav= e also heard that the ships coming to Canton have all had regulations promu= lgated and given to them in which it is stated that it is not permitted to = carry contraband goods. This indicates that the administrative orders of yo= ur honorable rule have been originally strict and clear. Only because the t= rading ships are numerous, heretofore perhaps they have not been examined w= ith care. Now after this communication has been dispatched and you have cle= arly understood the strictness of the prohibitory laws of the Celestial Cou= rt, certainly you will not let your subjects dare again to violate the law.= =20 We have further learned that in London, the capital of your honorable rule,= and in Scotland, Ireland, and other places, originally no opium has been p= roduced. Only in several places of India under your control such as Bengal,= Madras, Bombay, Patna, Benares, and Malwa has opium been planted from hill= to hill, and ponds have been opened for its manufacture. For months and ye= ars work is continued in order to accumulate the poison. The obnoxious odor= ascends, irritating heaven and frightening the spirits. Indeed you, O King= , can eradicate the opium plant in these places, hoe over the fields entire= ly, and sow in its stead the five grains [millet, barley, wheat, etc.]. Any= one who dares again attempt to plant and manufacture opium should be severe= ly punished. This will really be a great, benevolent government policy that= will increase the common weal and get rid of evil. For this, Heaven must s= upport you and the spirits must bring you good fortune, prolonging your old= age and extending your descendants. All will depend on this act.=20 As for the barbarian merchants who come to China, their food and drink and = habitation, all received by the gracious favor of our Celestial Court. Thei= r accumulated wealth is all benefit given with pleasure by our Celestial Co= urt. They spend rather few days in their own country but more time in Canto= n. To digest clearly the legal penalties as an aid to instruction has been = a valid principle in all ages. Suppose a man of another country comes to En= gland to trade, he still has to obey the English laws; how much more should= he obey in China the laws of the Celestial Dynasty?=20 Now we have set up regulations governing the Chinese people. He who sells o= pium shall receive the death penalty and he who smokes it also the death pe= nalty. Now consider this: if the barbarians do not bring opium, then how ca= n the Chinese people resell it, and how can they smoke it? The fact is that= the wicked barbarians beguile the Chinese people into a death trap. How th= en can we grant life only to these barbarians? He who takes the life of eve= n one person still has to atone for it with his own life; yet is the harm d= one by opium limited to the taking of one life only? Therefore in the new r= egulations, in regard to those barbarians who bring opium to China, the pen= alty is fixed at decapitation or strangulation. This is what is called gett= ing rid a harmful thing on behalf of mankind.=20 Moreover we have found that in the middle of the second month of this year = [April 9] Consul [Superintendent] Elliot of your nation, because the opium = prohibition law was very stern and severe, petitioned for an extension of t= he time limit. He requested an extension of five months for India and its a= djacent harbors and related territories, and ten months for England proper,= after which they would act in conformity with the new regulations. Now we,= the commissioner and others, have memorialized and have received the extra= ordinary Celestial grace of His Majesty the Emperor, who has redoubled his = consideration and compassion. All those who from the period of the coming o= ne year (from England) or six months (from India) bring opium to China by m= istake, but who voluntarily confess and completely surrender their opium, s= hall be exempt from their punishment. After this limit of time, if there ar= e still those who bring opium to China then they will plainly have committe= d a willful violation and shall at once be executed according to law, with = absolutely no clemency or pardon. This may be called the height of kindness= and the perfection of justice.=20 Our Celestial Dynasty rules over and supervises the myriad states, and sure= ly possesses unfathomable spiritual dignity. Yet the Emperor cannot bear to= execute people without having first tried to reform them by instruction. T= herefore he especially promulgates these fixed regulations. The barbarian m= erchants of your country, if they wish to do business for a prolonged perio= d, are required to obey our statues respectfully and to cut off permanently= the source of opium. They must by no means try to test the effectiveness o= f the law with their lives. May you, O King, check your wicked and sift you= r wicked people before they come to China, in order to guarantee the peace = of your nation, to show further the sincerity of your politeness and submis= siveness, and to let the two countries enjoy together the blessings of peac= e How fortunate, how fortunate indeed! After receiving this dispatch will y= ou immediately give us a prompt reply regarding the details and circumstanc= es of your cutting off the opium traffic. Be sure not to put this off. The = above is what has to be communicated.=20 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Di= stance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32764-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 11:41:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79158 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 11:41:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79133 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 11:41:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 03:41:31 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030114131.018DB412C@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] scriptural solution to the problem in jerusalem... (Psalm 83.1-8) "O God, do not remain quiet; do not be silent and, O God, do not be still. For, behold, Thine enemies make an uproar; and those who hate Thee have exalted themselves. They make shrewd plans against Thy people, and conspire together against Thy treasured ones. They have said, 'Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no more.' For they have conspired together with one mind; against Thee do they make a covenant: the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assyria also has joined with them; they have become a help to the children of Lot" from http://www.revelations.org.za/War.htm#SCRIPTURAL SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM If this 'communal' God of the three major contenders for Jerusalem (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) does exist at all, then it is logic that the solution to the problem should be found in the Scriptures which He claims to have inspired. These Scriptures, generally known as the Bible, are after all, accepted by 2 of the contenders, Jews and Christians. Islam, serving the same God, base their claims on the Quran - which does not mention Jerusalem at all and dates several centuries after the Bible. If any Divine directives do exist, it should therefore have to be found in the Bible. Due consideration of the Bible's position on the explosive subject of the disputed Ownership of Jerusalem, will reveal a very logical though not popular solution. We will consider this from two perspectives: - The Scriptural declaration in the matter - The Scriptural Solution for the benefit of all humanity DECLARATION OF SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF JERUSALEM As Sovereign Creator and Owner of the Universe (Gen. 1:1), it is God's sovereign Right to determine and allocate the borders and territories of nations. As such, He initially gave the contested territory (today known as Israel, some would say Palestine) to seven nations of Canaan. Of His own Will, He later decided to give it to the 12 Tribes of Israel unto all eternity. Who dare to question this Divine Decision? Scripture is also clear and emphatic that God intends to establish Jerusalem as earthly Headquarters for His future World Empire. From here He will reign over the world, having established a Dispensation of Peace, which mankind, in all the time allotted to them, failed to establish. As such, He has a special Purpose for Jerusalem. Does this not give Him the Divine Right to decide which nation He wishes to establish as 'owners' of Jerusalem? If God is the Sovereign Owner of the world as Creator thereof, if it behoved Him to take the Land from the Canaanites and give it to the nation of Israel; if He decided, 2000 years ago, to banish the whole nation of Israel from the Land into universal exile; if He took a Divine Oath to regather this dispersed nation from the four corners of the earth; if He fulfills this promise in miraculous fashion and brings them back to rebuild Jerusalem and make the deserts bloom, as the world has witnessed over the last 50 years and as He has foretold in writing through His Prophets 3000 years in advance; if, on their return He returns territory to them in equally miraculous fashion in three Wars of self-defense; who then would dare to question it? Who will have the authority to reclaim the conquered territories of the Promised Land? Who will have the authority to exhort Israel to return these Territories to anyone else than Israel itself? Clearly, no one has the authority to return Divinely ordained Territory for a 'promise' of Peace by the enemies of Israel - not the USA, not the UN, neither the President or Prime Minister of Israel or any other political contender. Clearly, Divinely ordained Territory cannot be negotiable! Those who are conducting the battle against God's Plan's for Jerusalem and who side with those who wish to destroy Israel; those who are pressurising Israel to return territory in pursuit of a vague promise of 'Peace', have not learned anything from the historical experience of the world. They fail to recognise that all the major powers, even world empires of the past, which tried to destroy Israel and take the Land away from them, all disappeared from the face of the earth (like Babylon and Rome) and suffered severe punishment! In the same Divine Promise to Abraham regarding the inheritance of the Land, God also repeatedly and simultaneously issued the Divine Warning that He will "bless those who bless Israel and Jerusalem and curse those who curse them." (Gen. 12:3; Zech 2:8 etc). According to God's Decree, during all 19 centuries of Israel's banishment from the Land, not one of the multitude of nations that ruled the Land during this long period, managed to put down successful roots in this Land. What they did manage, was to totally destroy the Land and make it desolate, again, exactly in accordance with God's proclaimed Plan through the Biblical Prophecies - Scriptures which have been left intact to this day as a Testimony to His Sovereignty. The Land waited, according to Divine Decree for the Return of its rightful heirs! And within 50 years of this miraculous Return, Israel has become a leader amongst nations in many advanced fields! Do world leaders never learn? Further to God's Decree, the Third Jewish Temple will be erected on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where for 1900 years non-Jewish religions ruled. Although a small remnant of Jews remained in the Land throughout the Dispersion, God's System and Law, as revealed to Moses, have returned to the Land over the last number of decades. Accordingly, God will certainly establish His Rule over the world from Jerusalem and "His House is going to be a House of prayer for all nations" (Isa. 56:7). THE SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL HUMANITY The Solution to the Crisis of Jerusalem, according to the Bible, is exactly the same as the Solution to achieving Success and sense out of Life, generally: That is: The Creator of the world and of humanity has provided the Keys to Peace and Success. Like all good and successful things in Life, there needs to be a System and Rules to adhere to. This applies to: - driving a car - piloting a ship or airplane - steering a spaceship to outer space - running a business or organization - ruling a country - running your home and your LIFE! So, why should there not also be a System with Rules in the Plan of God? In the Kingdom of God there will be: ONE System - the Creator's System ONE Law - the Creator's Law ONE Ruler and King - the Creator Himself. As much as all religions like to believe that only they have the right System, yet they all differ from each other. Question thus remains: Which will it be in the future Kingdom of God? Obviously: The System of the Creator. Which is this? Logic should confirm the right answer: "That System which He revealed to Moses with the Divine Mandate to go and teach it to the Israelites, who should live according to the Divine requirements and Instructions and in so doing, be a living Witness to the nations of the Blessings which are reaped from abiding by this System, and the Curses incurred for rejecting it" Until this System rules in Jerusalem, there will be no Peace. There should be no doubts as to who would install such a System in Jerusalem: Islam, Christianity or Judaism? Any claim on Jerusalem which is not in line with the Creator God's Purpose for this City (as expressed in prophetic Scripture), will amount to no less than a Declaration of War on God, in a vein bid and in the hope that His Purpose can be blocked! Evil Powers will obviously influence those humans who have not taken God's Purpose to heart, in an attempt to obstruct His Divine Plan for humanity. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32765-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 11:50:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82221 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 11:50:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82200 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 11:50:35 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030114814.362F44467@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] preventing world war 3... this is the main reason why i have opposed bush's war on iraq... Why the Arabs hate Israel from an article "UNITES STATES STRIKES IRAQ, ISRAEL STRUCK" by Micah Halpern, www.israelinsider.com When, and the operative word here is "when," the United States invades Iraq, whether by land, sea or air, it is abundantly clear that Israel will immediately fall victim to a hail storm of Saddam Hussein's missiles. Why? For one practical reason. Israel is a stationary target. Israel is a nearby enemy within a land mass. Israel does not, cannot be on the move. The United States and Britain are far away. Their forces are small and their forces are forever on the move. And for one theoretical reason. Theoretically, Saddam Hussein needs to, once again, turn his missiles on Israel because Israel represents everything that is evil in his eyes. Attacking Israel galvanizes, even more - unifies the Arab and Muslim worlds. Does it make any sense? At first, no, it doesn't make any sense at all. The United States and her ally, Great Britain, send fighter jets and blow up major sections of Baghdad and Baghdad's response is to send missiles racing toward Tel Aviv. But it doesn't have to make sense to you, to me or to any Western-thinking mind. It makes sense to Saddam Hussein. And it appears logical to most of the Arab and Muslim world. The Muslim and Arab world see the U.S. and Israel in cahoots. They even blame Israel and the CIA - I repeat, Israel and the CIA, as if they were co-workers, cohorts - for the bombing of the World Trade Centers and for the rest of September 11, 2001. Israel's very existence is a threat to Saddam Hussein and his world. Israel represents what Islam has most difficulty tolerating. Non-Muslim success! The Arab and Muslim worlds are not capable of understanding that great societies can succeed in many ways. It is not a part of their moral, cultural or ethical lexicon. Arab and Muslim society cannot conceive that non-Muslims can culturally conquer the world. The world, they believe, was conquered by them many years ago and so, should still be, rightfully theirs. Compound that with the reality of Muslim societies - poorly educated, wallowing in poverty and almost to a man, destitute. The result is a society that is culturally and physically and monetarily impoverished. Islam might be a religion, but it is also, perhaps predominately, a society. In the Arab world, even non-Muslims - Christians, Copts. Armenians - are treated to the same biases and hence, to the same lifestyle. Hitting them in the face, right smack in the middle of all of this poverty is Israel, a Western success story. Israel is a democratic society that respects all citizens even and including women. The issue of women and women's rights must not be underestimated in the Muslim and Arab world. Theirs is a world in which the role of women is not even an agenda item. There are practical and there are theoretical reasons for Saddam's attack against Israel, now compound that with the real reason. Envy. Envy is why Israel will be hit by rockets from Iraq. Israel is seen as a mini-United States in the Middle East. In the eyes of Saddam Hussein and those like him, Israel is exactly what the United States is, a non-Muslim, Western, free democracy. Israel is a great success. Most of the Arab countries are dismal failures. In this little Western democracy the areas of high tech, medicine and agriculture flourish. The desert, literally, blooms. Most Arab lands are, for the most part, aside from palaces and hotels and casinos, wastelands. There is one more reason - it's prejudice. Prejudice and hate wrapped-up in the guise of religion. Plain and simple, Israel is a state composed of a majority of Jews. That hurts Saddam Hussein and his co-religionists. More, it humiliates him. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32766-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 14:34:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19925 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 14:34:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19914 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 14:34:09 -0000 From: To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:35:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030143555.SOXM7853.imf19bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.29]> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? Grooverider SS Fabio Jumpin Jack Frost Shy FX R.A.W. Freaky Flow LTJ Bukem Dara Lion > > From: GemTwinx11@aol.com > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed AM 02:29:58 EST > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? > > what would you all consiter.... > if you had to make a list of what you thought the top ten DJ's for D&B > were... > what would you say? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32767-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 16:18:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67037 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 16:18:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67027 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 16:18:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:18:50 -0500 From: catnap To: "DJ NightShade" , X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.4.07) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: [[mw] Top 11 Tekno] "DJ NightShade" wrote: > S I Futures/ Eurostar/ Novamute OMG - i picked this up last weekend, and it hasn't left my turntables sin= ce! = si begg returns in impeccable form to reclaim his rightful position as a master of the nu-school breaks form. = it's also provoked an interesting ongoing comparison between the UK nu-sc= hool breaks movement and the Detroit electro revival currently being spearhead= ed by the Ersatz Audio label (home to Adult, Magas, Legowelt, and many others).= = i've been mixing tunes of both genres back and forth, listening to the stylistic similarities and differences. the key difference, i think, is = that the UK school uses basslines and breaklines that are first and foremost influenced by drum n' bass, while Detroit's sound is more traditional and= teutonic. and while i am personally drawn first to the deeper and more complex basslines of the UK sound, i think that the more sparse sound of D-town is truer to the spirit of Electro. "Eurostar" is an excellent challenger to this idea however, holding more closely to the electro sensibility than any of the other tracks on the SI= Futures album. the vocals are wonderful... great stuff! = peace, sim*n DJ Catnap "Columbus's Best Kept Secret" Mecha Studios mechastudios@usa.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32768-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 16:25:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69856 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 16:25:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69846 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 16:25:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:25:02 -0500 From: catnap To: , X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.4.07) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? jay's pretty much got it, although i'd say also: Teebee, DJ Hype, Andy C,= Aphrodite, and Mickey Finn. before anyone starts bitching, i know Aphrodite and Mickey Finn may not m= ake at all as good music as these other cats, you have to admit they are "A l= ist" top billed DJ's and have been for at least the last 5 years. also, if you were to look at this question from a USA standpoint, then yo= u'd definately have to add Soulslinger, Pish Posh, and Dieselboy. peace, sim*n = wrote: > Grooverider > SS > Fabio > Jumpin Jack Frost > Shy FX > R.A.W. > Freaky Flow > LTJ Bukem > Dara > Lion > = > > = > > From: GemTwinx11@aol.com > > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed AM 02:29:58 EST > > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? > > = > > what would you all consiter.... > > if you had to make a list of what you thought the top ten DJ's for D&= B = > > were... > > what would you say? > > = > > = > = > = > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > = DJ Catnap "Columbus's Best Kept Secret" Mecha Studios mechastudios@usa.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32769-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 16:29:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71131 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 16:29:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71121 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 16:29:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:35:32 -0600 From: atomly To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021030093532.B26153@atomly.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mechastudios@usa.net on Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:25:02AM -0500 X-URL: http://www.atomly.com/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? Of the ones I've seen in the last year, the ones that have rocked it the most: I don't think you guys have been listening to much jungle lately, eh? Andy C Marcus Intalex Matrix + Fierce DJ Hype Ed Rush + Optical Dieselboy DB Grooverider + Fabio Dillinja + Lemon D (cheesey but they rocked it) Shy FX (see above) -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32770-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 16:48:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78492 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 16:48:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78475 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 16:48:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:48:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9A2F51CB1A532A46B01BABE5B95DAE6A4E8C@sagittarius.gorhamstreet.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} they can't even cheat and win now... thread-index: AcJ/1oz2ca+5bIlgR1KUHhCGZOW4wAAXUfQA From: "Tony Sebion" To: , "trout" , Cc: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} they can't even cheat and win now... Ironically, when stevie t writes an email to a mailing list about the conspiracy, microsoft pays the cia $18. Two lists? Double the profit for the machine! Thanks stevie! -t (operative since 1998, y0) -----Original Message----- From: shepherd t [mailto:rapture316t@planet-save.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:38 PM To: trout; pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} they can't even cheat and win now... i can't wait til they ship you out to iraq for one of their spy on saddam's penis missions. you'll probably get so excited, you choke on your coke...then they'll have to make up some wack=20 story about how iraqi secret service forced you to snort your own coke until you choked to death as an excuse to bomb iraq! --- "trout" wrote: >d00d, i gots a j0b and you dont. y0u are s0 jeal0us. thats why you=20 >keep asking me how much i make, you want my job > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "shepherd t" > > >> these are the idiots they have working at the CIA now... > > > >----- >Hobbies & Interests: your final saviour --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32771-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 16:49:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78921 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 16:49:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78909 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 16:49:19 -0000 From: To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:51:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030165106.TIQQ7853.imf19bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.29]> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? been listening to alot of jungle... just not seeing many DJs... i don't really travel anymore and world class DnB isn't exactly common in Louisville.. hehe.. LemonD definetly gets producer propers... never seen him spin so i can't comment although I'm sure it's great... Hype and AndyC I give respect for being old farts and everything they have done for the sound in the last 10 years.. but nothing recently has impressed me... DB and Soulslinger... yeah.. respect... but it was a list of ten... hehe.. hard to think of everyone... and ShyFX was on my list damnit... :P... personally I'm more impressed with producers than DJs anyway... that's where the innovation is... and being that 70% of becoming a sucessful DnB DJ is knowing the right producers to get the hot dubs... yada yada.. you get my point... I respect the art of Djing, I am a tablist myself... but it is given too much attention.. there should be better balance... IMHO > > From: atomly > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed AM 10:35:32 EST > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? > > Of the ones I've seen in the last year, the ones that have rocked it the > most: > > I don't think you guys have been listening to much jungle lately, eh? > > Andy C > Marcus Intalex > Matrix + Fierce > DJ Hype > Ed Rush + Optical > Dieselboy > DB > Grooverider + Fabio > Dillinja + Lemon D (cheesey but they rocked it) > Shy FX (see above) > > -- > :: atomly :: > > [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... > [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32772-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 17:08:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88449 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 17:08:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88439 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 17:08:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:14:59 -0600 From: atomly To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021030101459.A29800@atomly.com> References: <20021030165106.TIQQ7853.imf19bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.29]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021030165106.TIQQ7853.imf19bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.29]>; from jaybusch@bellsouth.net on Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:51:06AM -0500 X-URL: http://www.atomly.com/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? [jaybusch@bellsouth.net] > Hype and AndyC I give respect for being old farts and everything they > have done for the sound in the last 10 years.. but nothing recently > has impressed me... They're probably technically the two best D&B DJs I've ever seen even though I don't really care for most of their productions. Have you heard Titan by Ram Trilogy, though? That's the fucking jam. > personally I'm more impressed with producers than DJs anyway... But that's like if I started a thread about the top ten motorcycles of 2002 and you said the BMW Z3. -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32773-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 17:29:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3989 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 17:29:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3974 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 17:29:16 -0000 From: To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:31:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030173104.TNYE7853.imf19bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.29]> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? > But that's like if I started a thread about the top ten motorcycles of > 2002 and you said the BMW Z3. not really... it's like if you started a thread about the top ten motorcycles.. and I gave you my list of motorcycles.. then you commented that I must not have ridden many new motorcyles and I agreed and explained that I'd been driving around in my 911 (let's be realistic here...) yeah RAM Trilogy rocks... agreed. > > From: atomly > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed AM 11:14:59 EST > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? > > [jaybusch@bellsouth.net] > > Hype and AndyC I give respect for being old farts and everything they > > have done for the sound in the last 10 years.. but nothing recently > > has impressed me... > > They're probably technically the two best D&B DJs I've ever seen even > though I don't really care for most of their productions. > > Have you heard Titan by Ram Trilogy, though? That's the fucking jam. > > > personally I'm more impressed with producers than DJs anyway... > > But that's like if I started a thread about the top ten motorcycles of > 2002 and you said the BMW Z3. > > -- > :: atomly :: > > [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... > [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32774-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 17:45:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13231 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 17:45:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13221 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 17:45:28 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [128.163.229.25] From: "stephen wiggins" To: jaybusch@bellsouth.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:45:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2002 17:45:29.0029 (UTC) FILETIME=[22D0AF50:01C2803C] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? Hmm.. thats a real toughie. I am not going to give an order from best to not so best. But I will name 10 of my fav. Andy c J-Majik UFO! Bailey Klute Trent X/Dev Cosmic Jim Whenever titonton throws down d n b. That one steve wiggins guy even tho he can't mix worth SHITE, but hey he's learning he's getting there. ;) steve wiggins _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32775-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 17:53:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18764 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 17:53:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18754 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 17:53:32 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [128.163.229.25] From: "stephen wiggins" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Bcc: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:53:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2002 17:53:36.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[4552A640:01C2803D] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Top 10 dnb djs Oh yeah. I wanted to add some to my list now that I thought of them. Dieselboy of course. Going to see him in cincy next tuesday, can't wait! Soulslinger sucked at samhain last year I couldn't stand his set. He is a better producer (97 stuff 'don't believe') than a dj IMO Pish posh has rocked my cd player for years he is definitely a bad man. Grooverider and Fabio are my fav. They are touching down in cincy soon too. Troll is a really rocking dj. Ariel, Mowgli, I could go on for days about my fav. But my mind drew a blank. Will post more later. steve _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32776-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 20:33:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25315 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 20:33:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25305 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 20:33:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:33:07 -0500 From: catnap To: "stephen wiggins" , X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.4.07) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: [[mw] Top 10 dnb djs] "stephen wiggins" wrote: >Troll is a really rocking dj. Ariel, Mowgli, I could go on for days >a= bout my fav. But my mind drew a blank. if you're talking Ohio d'n'b cats, then you shouldn't forget: Voight-Kampff Verge Hawstyle Shapeshifter Titonton Duvante Headstrong peace, sim*n DJ Catnap "Columbus's Best Kept Secret" Mecha Studios mechastudios@usa.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32777-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 22:33:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6024 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 22:33:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6014 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 22:32:59 -0000 Message-Id: <007301c28063$d92a9780$6501a8c0@slmboy> From: "Matt Murphy" To: References: <20021030093532.B26153@atomly.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:29:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? I think atom's list is right on, cept he missed one big one - Marky! Dude's TORN IT UP the two times he's been here. And Reid Speed. Not as well known, but she rocked. Grooverider? c'mon, I think his time is a bit passed. Matt > Andy C > Marcus Intalex > Matrix + Fierce > DJ Hype > Ed Rush + Optical > Dieselboy > DB > Grooverider + Fabio > Dillinja + Lemon D (cheesey but they rocked it) > Shy FX (see above) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32778-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 22:37:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12070 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 22:37:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12059 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 22:37:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:43:54 -0600 From: atomly To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021030154354.B31775@atomly.com> References: <20021030093532.B26153@atomly.com> <007301c28063$d92a9780$6501a8c0@slmboy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <007301c28063$d92a9780$6501a8c0@slmboy>; from murph@mr.net on Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 04:29:43PM -0600 X-URL: http://www.atomly.com/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? [Matt Murphy ] > I think atom's list is right on, cept he missed one big one - Marky! > Dude's TORN IT UP the two times he's been here. And Reid Speed. Not as > well known, but she rocked. Grooverider? c'mon, I think his time is a > bit passed. Yea, Marky does rock it and Reid Speed was really good last time she was here... Grooverider absolutely tore up Fabric when I saw him play, though. I could never understand before then why people were so into him, but he just destroyed the place. -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32779-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Oct 30 23:04:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37241 invoked by uid 1151); 30 Oct 2002 23:04:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37183 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2002 23:04:53 -0000 Message-Id: <008301c28068$4a9f4060$6501a8c0@slmboy> From: "Matt Murphy" To: References: <20021030093532.B26153@atomly.com> <007301c28063$d92a9780$6501a8c0@slmboy> <20021030154354.B31775@atomly.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:01:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? > Grooverider absolutely tore up Fabric when I saw him play, though. I > could never understand before then why people were so into him, but he > just destroyed the place. Maybe he's one of those guys that only plays well when he feels like it or something. The one time I've seen him he was trainwrecking all over the place. Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32780-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 00:00:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73452 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 00:00:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 73430 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 00:00:30 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:58:21 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "pangea ." , pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, rapture316t@planet-save.com Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030235821.A9A3B11E24@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] pangaya... did you even read half of the immature comments CIA trout made on the conversation i posted?! twice as immature! you're just another poser trying to cover-up the obvious corruption! i just posted pages of intelligence material, most de-classified...you don't have half the brain to even discuss a single part of it. you, truly are too stupid to talk to. --- "pangea ." wrote: >Thats the kind of stupid, ineffectual insult one expects from an 12 year old >kid, not from a full grown "man." Your staggering ignorance is an endless >source of amusement and self affirmation for me. I wonder if people like you >ever get better and then look back on stuff like this with some regret and a >little embarrassment. Who am I kidding, you lost your fingertip hold on the >crumbling edge of reality years ago. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32781-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 00:04:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74527 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 00:04:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74513 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 00:04:10 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:02:47 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "Tony Sebion" , rapture316t@planet-save.com, "trout" , pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031000247.908A911E24@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} they can't even cheat and win now... what the hell are you talking about?! don't you mean the CIA pays microsoft?! stop using your own piss pills tony! --- "Tony Sebion" wrote: >Ironically, when stevie t writes an email to a mailing list about the >conspiracy, microsoft pays the cia $18. Two lists? Double the profit >for the machine! > >Thanks stevie! >-t (operative since 1998, y0) _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32782-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 00:04:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74967 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 00:04:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74956 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 00:04:32 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:59:53 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "agent secret agent" , pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021030235954.6D1F211E25@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] cia troutpoop... i rest my case. --- "agent secret agent" wrote: >> i can't wait til they ship you out to iraq >> for one of their spy on saddam's penis missions. > >d00d s0m30n3 needed to get info on saddam's penis for the south park >episodes. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32783-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 00:28:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83141 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 00:28:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83118 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 00:28:46 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:28:14 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031002814.A00D53CAD@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: being a messiah figure... --- shepherd t wrote: >that's because i got sick of paying for other >people's sins for four years! > >do you have any idea how dreadfull that is?! let the record forever show the following anti-christ figures, who's sins i had to pay for: jinx kahlil g robinson - notorious cleveland and columbus drug trafficker, involved in multiple robberies, central figure behind the 420 riots, and helped fund muslims that funded 9/11...yet i was accussed of his sins gerrad martin - notorious columbus drug trafficker banned in his own home town, spreader of an STD, used mk ultra and drugs to brianwash my ex to spread lies about me...convinced layla to falsely accuse me of being yoshi and raping her...when he and his gang raped her and had given her an STD...and everyone in this city knows i am not yoshi, especially since i am not even japanese! favor nathanial davis - my ex roommate who grew opium...and i was accused of his sins when i was actually working full time as an account executive at the job news magazine. troutsoup jamie - who sold us out by taking CIA pay checks to spread malicious lies about me, traffick their drugs at our parties, and spread their pro- war white supremist propaganda...this increased the number of busts at our parties and helped kill our scene and underground party throwing business. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32784-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 00:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86667 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 00:35:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86605 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 00:35:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:41:41 -0600 From: atomly To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20021030174141.A654@atomly.com> References: <20021030093532.B26153@atomly.com> <007301c28063$d92a9780$6501a8c0@slmboy> <20021030154354.B31775@atomly.com> <008301c28068$4a9f4060$6501a8c0@slmboy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <008301c28068$4a9f4060$6501a8c0@slmboy>; from murph@mr.net on Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 05:01:28PM -0600 X-URL: http://www.atomly.com/ X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's???? [Matt Murphy ] > Maybe he's one of those guys that only plays well when he feels like > it or something. The one time I've seen him he was trainwrecking all > over the place. Yea, people like that piss me off. There are a lot of British D&B DJs that don't give a fuck about America and just play lame six month old anthems unenthusiastically when they come here because they think we don't know better. -- :: atomly :: [ atomly@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32785-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 00:51:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95735 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 00:51:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95701 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 00:51:50 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:51:34 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031005134.197F24338@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Long Street Clubs Upcoming Events... 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Bring your Blue Jackets ticket stubs to Long Street and get in free ALL NIGHT! We will be giving away Blue Jackets tickets this Friday. This Friday, the Morning Zoo from WNCI hosts Fantasy Fridays. This week we've got great prizes and giveaways. 21 AND OVER WELCOME Doors open @ 10:00 FRIDAY NOVEMBER 1ST SHUCKING BUBBA DELUXE LONG STREET LIVE! 21 AND OVER WELCOME Doors open @ 10:00 Ladies free before 11 $5 Cover SATURDAY NOVEMBER 2ND SAVING JANE LONG STREET LIVE! Kahlua will be on hand with giveaways and drink specials. 21 AND OVER WELCOME Doors open @ 10:00 Ladies free before 11 $5 Cover Subj: Upcoming Events @ Redzone: 10/30/02 Date: 02-10-30 18:17:10 EST From: list@longstreetclubs.com (Redzone / Long Street Clubs) To: son316east@aol.com THURSDAY OCTOBER 31TH TRAUMA REDZONE The ultimate FETISH EXTRAVAGANZA and FREAK SHOW EXTREME! Featuring: live music, djs, a costume contest, a drag queen beauty contest and many exhibitions. For more information, check out: http://www.evolvedbodyart.com/traumaoctober31/ 21 AND OVER WELCOME Doors open @ 10:30 FRIDAY NOV 1, NOV 8 &NOV 15 BEVERLY MODELS PRESENTS... MODEL SEARCH WITH GUEST HOSTS ON NOV. 15TH..... TRACI BINGHAM &CORI NADINE REDZONE The winner of this model search event will win: * A trip to Los Angeles * $1000 in cash * A chance to be represented by Beverly Models. For more information about this upcoming event, please check out: http://models.redzone-club.com Also, check out the Bacardi Naughty Nurse Party featuring lots of giveaways and drink specials! 18 AND OVER WELCOME Doors open @ 10:30 $10 cover before midnight, $15 after SATURDAY NOVEMBER 2ND ANDRIA: RHYTHM DIVA STANDARD LOUNGE Performing vocal favorites. Featuring Anthony Timperman/guitar and Festus Ayeni/piano $5 COVER 18+ for women /21+ for men Doors open @ 9 SATURDAY NOVEMBER 2ND USUAL SUSPECTS STANDARD LOUNGE Searching for that 'TRUE LOUNGE VIBE'?? Check out Usual Suspect @ Standard featuring deep house music by DJ Marion Dees. 21 AND OVER WELCOME Doors open @ 10:30 as usual no idiots! no CIA moles! / no pushers! / no posers! / no haters! _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32786-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 05:20:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80096 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 05:20:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80086 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 05:20:11 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021030231902.009e7ec0@pop.zoomtown.com> X-Sender: shawne@zoomtown.com@pop.zoomtown.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:20:12 -0500 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org From: shawn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] RIP Jam Master Jay http://www.msnbc.com/news/828562.asp?0cm=c20 Sad, truly sad. the infamous one shawne --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32787-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 06:10:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4213 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 06:10:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4194 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 06:10:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:10:47 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031061048.A792146B3@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] back to being a saviour again... ok, it just seems i can't get away from saving the world... this past year over $3 trillion dollars wasted on war, about $3 trillion was also lost in lost business as a result of the war, 10 million people laid off, no immediate plans for any of them, just for more war?! the price of one stealth bomber could have fed thousands! check the stats... from http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm http://www.cato.org/dailys/1-06-98.html http://www.workers.org/ww/2001/profits1011.php http://self-gov.org/good/a0275.html http://www.lysistrataproject.org/costofwar.htm _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32788-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 06:59:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16698 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 06:59:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16688 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 06:59:05 -0000 From: "Steven Pucci" To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:59:38 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021030231902.009e7ec0@pop.zoomtown.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [mw] RIP Jam Master Jay I just saw that, fucked up shit. Steven Pucci / I.P.X. TreeHouse Collective treehousecollective.net protocolbeats.com -----Original Message----- From: shawn [mailto:shawne@zoomtown.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:20 PM To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Subject: [mw] RIP Jam Master Jay http://www.msnbc.com/news/828562.asp?0cm=c20 Sad, truly sad. the infamous one shawne --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32789-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 09:29:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45151 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 09:29:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45137 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 09:29:28 -0000 From: GemTwinx11@aol.com Message-ID: <7d.30165dbc.2af25201@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:29:37 EST To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7d.30165dbc.2af25201_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 8.0 for Windows US sub 180 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] the top D&B Producers..... ???? --part1_7d.30165dbc.2af25201_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what do you guys think are the top D&B producers? --part1_7d.30165dbc.2af25201_boundary-- From mw-raves-return-32790-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 11:09:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60580 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 11:09:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60559 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 11:09:39 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:09:49 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031110949.B31B043D7@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] jack's house!... http://people.a2000.nl/bruygr00/jack.htm _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32791-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 11:31:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64175 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 11:31:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64153 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 11:31:48 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031112729.59F713C0C@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] trick or treat... http://www.4everone.com/hypnotikaorg/news.php _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32792-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 11:43:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66670 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 11:43:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 66660 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 11:43:56 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021031054400.010ce918@mail.insightbb.com> X-Sender: fergcore@mail.insightbb.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:44:00 -0600 To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org From: Fergus In-Reply-To: <20021031112729.59F713C0C@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] trick or treat... >http://www.4everone.com/hypnotikaorg/news.php When I see a rip-off from Faces of Death I expect something good. That looks like a bunch of crap. fergus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32793-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 11:45:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67212 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 11:45:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67191 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 11:45:42 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:43:51 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031114351.4DAD541D1@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] playa... http://www.asianscene.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32794-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 11:58:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69896 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 11:58:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69874 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 11:58:32 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021031115811.AEAA13B7B@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] west is the best... http://www.upcrew.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32795-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 14:58:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4371 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 14:58:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4358 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 14:58:27 -0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:56:29 -0800 (PST) From: Stevon-Christophe Reply-To: facade3@ziplip.com To: rapture316t@planet-save.com Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZLPwdHint: X-ZLExpiry: -1 X-ZLReceiptConfirm: N X-ZLAuthType: WEB-MAIL X-ZLAuthOn: Y X-Mailer: ZipLip v3.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] jack's house!... Werd! I've been rocking this all week. Brings back mem'ries :D > -----Original Message----- > From: shepherd t [mailto:rapture316t@planet-save.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002, 3:08 AM > To: pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org > Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org > Subject: [mw] jack's house!... > > http://people.a2000.nl/bruygr00/jack.htm > > _____________________________________________________________ > Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long > Distance! > http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...trying to make it all the way home Stevon-Christophe Burrell facade3.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32796-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 15:52:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27876 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 15:52:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27866 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 15:52:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:52:42 -0500 From: catnap To: "Matt Murphy" , X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.4.07) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] top ten D&B DJ's????] "Matt Murphy" wrote: >Maybe he's one of those guys that only plays = >well when he feels like it or something. The one = >time I've seen him he was trainwrecking all over the place. I have some old live tapes of Grooverider from the Prototype night in Lon= don, when I used to live out there, and all of them have some (although not horrible) trainwrecks and stuff. = i'm not sure if i should excuse or condemn that, but honestly it doesn't really bother me on the tapes. i still think Grooverider rocks ;) peace, sim*n DJ Catnap "Columbus's Best Kept Secret" Mecha Studios mechastudios@usa.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32797-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 15:54:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28341 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 15:54:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28322 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 15:54:10 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:50:55 -0500 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: scriptural solution to the problem in jerusalem... the problem with this area in the middle east with israel and palenstine = and in russia with chechnia and russia boils down to one thing. we and the countries involved dont support those countries or people or = rebels(we dont support chechnia or palenstine it seems, even though there = concerns are valid?), even if they are right, bc it may lead to further = annexations in the future in countries where their are huge differences = like there are now. the superpowers of the world do not want this pattern to start or continue = of succedding so we ignore it in the us in the meantime, no matter how = many human rights violations are committed. this was the "terrorists" = point in moscow a week ago when they took hostages. to get the world's = attn to the wrong going on in chechnia. and even though the govt were the = ones who killed most of the hostages, we continue to ignore. it is sad. 2 cents. on another note, rip jam master jay....an originator. d >>> shepherd t 10/30/02 06:41AM >>> (Psalm 83.1-8)=20 "O God, do not remain quiet; do not be silent and, O God, do not be still. = =20 For, behold, Thine enemies make an =20 uproar; and those who hate Thee have exalted themselves. =20 They make shrewd plans against Thy people, and conspire together against = Thy treasured ones. =20 They have said, 'Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, that the name = of Israel be remembered no more.' =20 For they have conspired together with one mind; against Thee do they make = a covenant: the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites; = =20 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; = Assyria also has joined with them; they have become a help to the children = of Lot" =20 from http://www.revelations.org.za/War.htm#SCRIPTURAL=20 SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM If this 'communal' God of the three major contenders for Jerusalem = (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) does exist at all, then it is logic that = the solution to the problem should be found in the Scriptures which He = claims to have inspired. These Scriptures, generally known as the Bible, = are after all, accepted by 2 of the contenders, Jews and Christians. = Islam, serving the same God, base their claims on the Quran - which does = not mention Jerusalem at all and dates several centuries after the Bible. = If any Divine directives do exist, it should therefore have to be found in = the Bible.=20 Due consideration of the Bible's position on the explosive subject of the = disputed Ownership of Jerusalem, will reveal a very logical though not = popular solution. We will consider this from two perspectives:=20 - The Scriptural declaration in the matter=20 - The Scriptural Solution for the benefit of all humanity=20 DECLARATION OF SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF JERUSALEM=20 As Sovereign Creator and Owner of the Universe (Gen. 1:1), it is God's = sovereign Right to determine and allocate the borders and territories of = nations. As such, He initially gave the contested territory (today known = as Israel, some would say Palestine) to seven nations of Canaan. Of His = own Will, He later decided to give it to the 12 Tribes of Israel unto all = eternity.=20 Who dare to question this Divine Decision?=20 Scripture is also clear and emphatic that God intends to establish = Jerusalem as earthly Headquarters for His future World Empire. From here = He will reign over the world, having established a Dispensation of Peace, = which mankind, in all the time allotted to them, failed to establish. As = such, He has a special Purpose for Jerusalem. Does this not give Him the = Divine Right to decide which nation He wishes to establish as 'owners' of = Jerusalem?=20 If God is the Sovereign Owner of the world as Creator thereof, if it = behoved Him to take the Land from the Canaanites and give it to the nation = of Israel; if He decided, 2000 years ago, to banish the whole nation of = Israel from the Land into universal exile; if He took a Divine Oath to = regather this dispersed nation from the four corners of the earth; if He = fulfills this promise in miraculous fashion and brings them back to = rebuild Jerusalem and make the deserts bloom, as the world has witnessed = over the last 50 years and as He has foretold in writing through His = Prophets 3000 years in advance; if, on their return He returns territory = to them in equally miraculous fashion in three Wars of self-defense; who = then would dare to question it? Who will have the authority to reclaim = the conquered territories of the Promised Land? Who will have the = authority to exhort Israel to return these Territories to anyone else than = Israel itself?=20 Clearly, no one has the authority to return Divinely ordained Territory = for a 'promise' of Peace by the enemies of Israel - not the USA, not the = UN, neither the President or Prime Minister of Israel or any other = political contender.=20 Clearly, Divinely ordained Territory cannot be negotiable!=20 Those who are conducting the battle against God's Plan's for Jerusalem and = who side with those who wish to destroy Israel; those who are pressurising= Israel to return territory in pursuit of a vague promise of 'Peace', = have not learned anything from the historical experience of the world. = They fail to recognise that all the major powers, even world empires of = the past, which tried to destroy Israel and take the Land away from them, = all disappeared from the face of the earth (like Babylon and Rome) and = suffered severe punishment! In the same Divine Promise to Abraham = regarding the inheritance of the Land, God also repeatedly and simultaneou= sly issued the Divine Warning that He will "bless those who bless Israel = and Jerusalem and curse those who curse them." (Gen. 12:3; Zech 2:8 = etc).=20 According to God's Decree, during all 19 centuries of Israel's banishment = from the Land, not one of the multitude of nations that ruled the Land = during this long period, managed to put down successful roots in this = Land. What they did manage, was to totally destroy the Land and make it = desolate, again, exactly in accordance with God's proclaimed Plan through = the Biblical Prophecies - Scriptures which have been left intact to this = day as a Testimony to His Sovereignty. The Land waited, according to = Divine Decree for the Return of its rightful heirs! And within 50 years = of this miraculous Return, Israel has become a leader amongst nations in = many advanced fields! Do world leaders never learn?=20 Further to God's Decree, the Third Jewish Temple will be erected on the = Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where for 1900 years non-Jewish religions = ruled. Although a small remnant of Jews remained in the Land throughout = the Dispersion, God's System and Law, as revealed to Moses, have = returned to the Land over the last number of decades. Accordingly, God = will certainly establish His Rule over the world from Jerusalem and "His = House is going to be a House of prayer for all nations" (Isa. 56:7).=20 THE SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL HUMANITY=20 The Solution to the Crisis of Jerusalem, according to the Bible, is = exactly the same as the Solution to achieving Success and sense out of = Life, generally:=20 That is: The Creator of the world and of humanity has provided the Keys to = Peace and Success. Like all good and successful things in Life, there = needs to be a System and Rules to adhere to. This applies to:=20 - driving a car=20 - piloting a ship or airplane=20 - steering a spaceship to outer space=20 - running a business or organization=20 - ruling a country=20 - running your home=20 and your LIFE!=20 So, why should there not also be a System with Rules in the Plan of = God?=20 In the Kingdom of God there will be:=20 ONE System - the Creator's System=20 ONE Law - the Creator's Law=20 ONE Ruler and King - the Creator Himself.=20 As much as all religions like to believe that only they have the right = System, yet they all differ from each other.=20 Question thus remains: Which will it be in the future Kingdom of God?=20 Obviously: The System of the Creator.=20 Which is this?=20 Logic should confirm the right answer: "That System which He revealed to = Moses with the Divine Mandate to go and teach it to the Israelites, who = should live according to the Divine requirements and Instructions and in = so doing, be a living Witness to the nations of the Blessings which are = reaped from abiding by this System, and the Curses incurred for rejecting = it"=20 Until this System rules in Jerusalem, there will be no Peace. There = should be no doubts as to who would install such a System in Jerusalem: = Islam, Christianity or Judaism?=20 Any claim on Jerusalem which is not in line with the Creator God's Purpose = for this City (as expressed in prophetic Scripture), will amount to no = less than a Declaration of War on God, in a vein bid and in the hope that = His Purpose can be blocked! Evil Powers will obviously influence those = humans who have not taken God's Purpose to heart, in an attempt to = obstruct His Divine Plan for humanity.=20 =20 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long = Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32798-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 15:59:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30910 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 15:59:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30887 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 15:59:43 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:56:30 -0500 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: back to being a saviour again... i say do with the armed forces we do with school. make the army have bake sales to raise revenue for fighter planes. LOL d >>> shepherd t 10/31/02 01:10AM >>> ok, it just seems i can't get away from saving the world... this past year over $3 trillion dollars wasted on war, about $3=20 trillion was also lost in lost business as a result of the war,=20 10 million people laid off, no immediate plans for any of them,=20 just for more war?! the price of one stealth bomber could have fed thousands! check the stats... from http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm=20 http://www.cato.org/dailys/1-06-98.html=20 http://www.workers.org/ww/2001/profits1011.php=20 http://self-gov.org/good/a0275.html=20 http://www.lysistrataproject.org/costofwar.htm=20 _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long = Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32799-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 16:02:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32920 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 16:02:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32908 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 16:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <009f01c280f7$70922aa0$780999ac@computer> From: "Pam" To: "Chris Dooley" , Cc: References: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Apparently-From: PaRtYnDeT@cs.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Re: scriptural solution to the problem in jerusalem... you know, this sounds just like the schizo guy who was telling me about his visions from god. Ha ha look at this guy's website www.ministryofdreams.org Stevie and this guy should compare notes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Dooley" To: ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: [mw] Re: scriptural solution to the problem in jerusalem... the problem with this area in the middle east with israel and palenstine and in russia with chechnia and russia boils down to one thing. we and the countries involved dont support those countries or people or rebels(we dont support chechnia or palenstine it seems, even though there concerns are valid?), even if they are right, bc it may lead to further annexations in the future in countries where their are huge differences like there are now. the superpowers of the world do not want this pattern to start or continue of succedding so we ignore it in the us in the meantime, no matter how many human rights violations are committed. this was the "terrorists" point in moscow a week ago when they took hostages. to get the world's attn to the wrong going on in chechnia. and even though the govt were the ones who killed most of the hostages, we continue to ignore. it is sad. 2 cents. on another note, rip jam master jay....an originator. d >>> shepherd t 10/30/02 06:41AM >>> (Psalm 83.1-8) "O God, do not remain quiet; do not be silent and, O God, do not be still. For, behold, Thine enemies make an uproar; and those who hate Thee have exalted themselves. They make shrewd plans against Thy people, and conspire together against Thy treasured ones. They have said, 'Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no more.' For they have conspired together with one mind; against Thee do they make a covenant: the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assyria also has joined with them; they have become a help to the children of Lot" from http://www.revelations.org.za/War.htm#SCRIPTURAL SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM If this 'communal' God of the three major contenders for Jerusalem (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) does exist at all, then it is logic that the solution to the problem should be found in the Scriptures which He claims to have inspired. These Scriptures, generally known as the Bible, are after all, accepted by 2 of the contenders, Jews and Christians. Islam, serving the same God, base their claims on the Quran - which does not mention Jerusalem at all and dates several centuries after the Bible. If any Divine directives do exist, it should therefore have to be found in the Bible. Due consideration of the Bible's position on the explosive subject of the disputed Ownership of Jerusalem, will reveal a very logical though not popular solution. We will consider this from two perspectives: - The Scriptural declaration in the matter - The Scriptural Solution for the benefit of all humanity DECLARATION OF SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF JERUSALEM As Sovereign Creator and Owner of the Universe (Gen. 1:1), it is God's sovereign Right to determine and allocate the borders and territories of nations. As such, He initially gave the contested territory (today known as Israel, some would say Palestine) to seven nations of Canaan. Of His own Will, He later decided to give it to the 12 Tribes of Israel unto all eternity. Who dare to question this Divine Decision? Scripture is also clear and emphatic that God intends to establish Jerusalem as earthly Headquarters for His future World Empire. From here He will reign over the world, having established a Dispensation of Peace, which mankind, in all the time allotted to them, failed to establish. As such, He has a special Purpose for Jerusalem. Does this not give Him the Divine Right to decide which nation He wishes to establish as 'owners' of Jerusalem? If God is the Sovereign Owner of the world as Creator thereof, if it behoved Him to take the Land from the Canaanites and give it to the nation of Israel; if He decided, 2000 years ago, to banish the whole nation of Israel from the Land into universal exile; if He took a Divine Oath to regather this dispersed nation from the four corners of the earth; if He fulfills this promise in miraculous fashion and brings them back to rebuild Jerusalem and make the deserts bloom, as the world has witnessed over the last 50 years and as He has foretold in writing through His Prophets 3000 years in advance; if, on their return He returns territory to them in equally miraculous fashion in three Wars of self-defense; who then would dare to question it? Who will have the authority to reclaim the conquered territories of the Promised Land? Who will have the authority to exhort Israel to return these Territories to anyone else than Israel itself? Clearly, no one has the authority to return Divinely ordained Territory for a 'promise' of Peace by the enemies of Israel - not the USA, not the UN, neither the President or Prime Minister of Israel or any other political contender. Clearly, Divinely ordained Territory cannot be negotiable! Those who are conducting the battle against God's Plan's for Jerusalem and who side with those who wish to destroy Israel; those who are pressurising Israel to return territory in pursuit of a vague promise of 'Peace', have not learned anything from the historical experience of the world. They fail to recognise that all the major powers, even world empires of the past, which tried to destroy Israel and take the Land away from them, all disappeared from the face of the earth (like Babylon and Rome) and suffered severe punishment! In the same Divine Promise to Abraham regarding the inheritance of the Land, God also repeatedly and simultaneously issued the Divine Warning that He will "bless those who bless Israel and Jerusalem and curse those who curse them." (Gen. 12:3; Zech 2:8 etc). According to God's Decree, during all 19 centuries of Israel's banishment from the Land, not one of the multitude of nations that ruled the Land during this long period, managed to put down successful roots in this Land. What they did manage, was to totally destroy the Land and make it desolate, again, exactly in accordance with God's proclaimed Plan through the Biblical Prophecies - Scriptures which have been left intact to this day as a Testimony to His Sovereignty. The Land waited, according to Divine Decree for the Return of its rightful heirs! And within 50 years of this miraculous Return, Israel has become a leader amongst nations in many advanced fields! Do world leaders never learn? Further to God's Decree, the Third Jewish Temple will be erected on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where for 1900 years non-Jewish religions ruled. Although a small remnant of Jews remained in the Land throughout the Dispersion, God's System and Law, as revealed to Moses, have returned to the Land over the last number of decades. Accordingly, God will certainly establish His Rule over the world from Jerusalem and "His House is going to be a House of prayer for all nations" (Isa. 56:7). THE SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL HUMANITY The Solution to the Crisis of Jerusalem, according to the Bible, is exactly the same as the Solution to achieving Success and sense out of Life, generally: That is: The Creator of the world and of humanity has provided the Keys to Peace and Success. Like all good and successful things in Life, there needs to be a System and Rules to adhere to. This applies to: - driving a car - piloting a ship or airplane - steering a spaceship to outer space - running a business or organization - ruling a country - running your home and your LIFE! So, why should there not also be a System with Rules in the Plan of God? In the Kingdom of God there will be: ONE System - the Creator's System ONE Law - the Creator's Law ONE Ruler and King - the Creator Himself. As much as all religions like to believe that only they have the right System, yet they all differ from each other. Question thus remains: Which will it be in the future Kingdom of God? Obviously: The System of the Creator. Which is this? Logic should confirm the right answer: "That System which He revealed to Moses with the Divine Mandate to go and teach it to the Israelites, who should live according to the Divine requirements and Instructions and in so doing, be a living Witness to the nations of the Blessings which are reaped from abiding by this System, and the Curses incurred for rejecting it" Until this System rules in Jerusalem, there will be no Peace. There should be no doubts as to who would install such a System in Jerusalem: Islam, Christianity or Judaism? Any claim on Jerusalem which is not in line with the Creator God's Purpose for this City (as expressed in prophetic Scripture), will amount to no less than a Declaration of War on God, in a vein bid and in the hope that His Purpose can be blocked! Evil Powers will obviously influence those humans who have not taken God's Purpose to heart, in an attempt to obstruct His Divine Plan for humanity. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32800-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Oct 31 16:15:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38578 invoked by uid 1151); 31 Oct 2002 16:15:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38410 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 16:15:10 -0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:11:40 -0500 From: "Chris Dooley" To: , Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [mw] Re: scriptural solution to the problem in jerusalem... ummmm no? this is known facts, not my words just from my mouth. it is on every news channel and website all the time? it is on talk shows, npr, talk radio, pbs, etc etc.... so i guess they are all (the reporters and writers and producers and = intelluctuals) are schizo too.... snip^*hi god, how are you today* snip^ crazy ole d >>> "Pam" 10/31/02 11:06AM >>> you know, this sounds just like the schizo guy who was telling me about = his visions from god. Ha ha look at this guy's website www.ministryofdreams.or= g=20 Stevie and this guy should compare notes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Dooley" To: ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: [mw] Re: scriptural solution to the problem in jerusalem... the problem with this area in the middle east with israel and palenstine = and in russia with chechnia and russia boils down to one thing. we and the countries involved dont support those countries or people or rebels(we dont support chechnia or palenstine it seems, even though there concerns are valid?), even if they are right, bc it may lead to further annexations in the future in countries where their are huge differences = like there are now. the superpowers of the world do not want this pattern to start or continue of succedding so we ignore it in the us in the meantime, no matter how = many human rights violations are committed. this was the "terrorists" point in moscow a week ago when they took hostages. to get the world's attn to the wrong going on in chechnia. and even though the govt were the ones who killed most of the hostages, we continue to ignore. it is sad. 2 cents. on another note, rip jam master jay....an originator. d >>> shepherd t 10/30/02 06:41AM >>> (Psalm 83.1-8) "O God, do not remain quiet; do not be silent and, O God, do not be still. For, behold, Thine enemies make an uproar; and those who hate Thee have exalted themselves. They make shrewd plans against Thy people, and conspire together against = Thy treasured ones. They have said, 'Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no more.' For they have conspired together with one mind; against Thee do they make = a covenant: the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assyria also has joined with them; they have become a help to the children of Lot" from http://www.revelations.org.za/War.htm#SCRIPTURAL=20 SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM If this 'communal' God of the three major contenders for Jerusalem = (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) does exist at all, then it is logic that the solution to the problem should be found in the Scriptures which He claims = to have inspired. These Scriptures, generally known as the Bible, are after all, accepted by 2 of the contenders, Jews and Christians. Islam, serving the same God, base their claims on the Quran - which does not mention Jerusalem at all and dates several centuries after the Bible. If any = Divine directives do exist, it should therefore have to be found in the Bible. Due consideration of the Bible's position on the explosive subject of the disputed Ownership of Jerusalem, will reveal a very logical though not popular solution. We will consider this from two perspectives: - The Scriptural declaration in the matter - The Scriptural Solution for the benefit of all humanity DECLARATION OF SCRIPTURE ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF JERUSALEM As Sovereign Creator and Owner of the Universe (Gen. 1:1), it is God's sovereign Right to determine and allocate the borders and territories of nations. As such, He initially gave the contested territory (today known as Israel, some would say Palestine) to seven nations of Canaan. Of His = own Will, He later decided to give it to the 12 Tribes of Israel unto all eternity. Who dare to question this Divine Decision? Scripture is also clear and emphatic that God intends to establish = Jerusalem as earthly Headquarters for His future World Empire. From here He will reign over the world, having established a Dispensation of Peace, which mankind, in all the time allotted to them, failed to establish. As such, = He has a special Purpose for Jerusalem. Does this not give Him the Divine Right to decide which nation He wishes to establish as 'owners' of Jerusalem? If God is the Sovereign Owner of the world as Creator thereof, if it behoved Him to take the Land from the Canaanites and give it to the nation of Israel; if He decided, 2000 years ago, to banish the whole nation of Israel from the Land into universal exile; if He took a Divine Oath to regather this dispersed nation from the four corners of the earth; if He fulfills this promise in miraculous fashion and brings them back to = rebuild Jerusalem and make the deserts bloom, as the world has witnessed over the last 50 years and as He has foretold in writing through His Prophets 3000 years in advance; if, on their return He returns territory to them in equally miraculous fashion in three Wars of self-defense; who then would dare to question it? Who will have the authority to reclaim the conquered territories of the Promised Land? Who will have the authority to exhort Israel to return these Territories to anyone else than Israel itself? Clearly, no one has the authority to return Divinely ordained Territory = for a 'promise' of Peace by the enemies of Israel - not the USA, not the UN, neither the President or Prime Minister of Israel or any other political contender. Clearly, Divinely ordained Territory cannot be negotiable! Those who are conducting the battle against God's Plan's for Jerusalem and who side with those who wish to destroy Israel; those who are pressurising= Israel to return territory in pursuit of a vague promise of 'Peace', = have not learned anything from the historical experience of the world. They = fail to recognise that all the major powers, even world empires of the past, which tried to destroy Israel and take the Land away from them, all disappeared from the face of the earth (like Babylon and Rome) and = suffered severe punishment! In the same Divine Promise to Abraham regarding the inheritance of the Land, God also repeatedly and simultaneously issued = the Divine Warning that He will "bless those who bless Israel and Jerusalem = and curse those who curse them." (Gen. 12:3; Zech 2:8 etc). According to God's Decree, during all 19 centuries of Israel's banishment from the Land, not one of the multitude of nations that ruled the Land during this long period, managed to put down successful roots in this = Land. What they did manage, was to totally destroy the Land and make it = desolate, again, exactly in accordance with God's proclaimed Plan through the = Biblical Prophecies - Scriptures which have been left intact to this day as aoDue = consideration of the Bible's positio Testimony to His Sovereignty. The Land waited, according to Divine Decree for the Return of its rightful heirs! And within 50 years of this miraculous Return, Israel has become a leader amongst nations in many advanced fields! Do world leaders never learn? Further to God's Decree, the Third Jewish Temple will be erected on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where for 1900 years non-Jewish religions = ruled. Although a small remnant of Jews remained in the Land throughout the Dispersion, God's System and Law, as revealed to Moses, have returned to the Land over the last number of decades. Accordingly, God will certainly establish His Rule over the world from Jerusalem and "His House is going = to be a House of prayer for all nations" (Isa. 56:7). THE SCRIPTURAL SOLUTION TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL HUMANITY The Solution to the Crisis of Jerusalem, according to the Bible, is = exactly the same as the Solution to achieving Success and sense out of Life, generally: That is: The Creator of the world and of humanity has provided the Keys to Peace and Success. Like all good and successful things in Life, there = needs to be a System and Rules to adhere to. This applies to: - driving a car - piloting a ship or airplane - steering a spaceship to outer space - running a business or organization - ruling a country - running your home and your LIFE! So, why should there not also be a System with Rules in the Plan of God? In the Kingdom of God there will be: ONE System - the Creator's System ONE Law - the Creator's Law ONE Ruler and King - the Creator Himself. As much as all religions like to believe that only they have the right System, yet they all differ from each other. Question thus remains: Which will it be in the future Kingdom of God? Obviously: The System of the Creator. Which is this? Logic should confirm the right answer: "That System which He revealed to Moses with the Divine Mandate to go and teach it to the Israelites, who should live according to the Divine requirements and Instructions and in = so doing, be a living Witness to the nations of the Blessings which are = reaped from abiding by this System, and the Curses incurred for rejecting it" Until this System rules in Jerusalem, there will be no Peace. There = should be no doubts as to who would install such a System in Jerusalem: Islam, Christianity or Judaism? Any claim on Jerusalem which is not in line with the Creator God's Purpose for this City (as expressed in prophetic Scripture), will amount to no = less than a Declaration of War on God, in a vein bid and in the hope that His Purpose can be blocked! Evil Powers will obviously influence those humans who have not taken God's Purpose to heart, in an attempt to obstruct His Divine Plan for humanity. _____________________________________________________________ Help save rainforest or feed orphaned chimpanzees with Redjellyfish Long Distance! http://www.redjellyfish.com/longdistance=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=20 For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org From mw-raves-return-32801-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 01 03:26:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mw-raves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34615 invoked by uid 1151); 1 Nov 2002 03:26:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list mw-raves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34600 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2002 03:26:21 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:26:27 -0800 (PST) From: shepherd t To: "Paul Fleetwood" , rapture316t@planet-save.com, pb-cle-raves-ot@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org Reply-To: rapture316t@planet-save.com X-Originating-Ip: [65.173.32.8] Message-Id: <20021101032628.861A111E25@sitemail.everyone.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [mw] Re: {pbcleBS} playa... shut up stupid, nobody talking to you. go drink your badger milk. --- "Paul Fleetwood" wrote: >Oh my god will you please shut the fuck up Stevie. > >What a horrible night to have a curse. > - Simon Belmont > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Broadband?=A0Dial-up? 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OMG someone has badger milk!!! I'll bring the human chocolate cheese chip cookies and we'll have a party! Who sold you the bad piss pills anyway, mr grumpy? 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Make him feel welcome, and i'm sure he'll bring the goodies out of his record bag! > > 10-11: natOsha garageand2step.com, Xero music > For 3 years she has played and promoted the sounds of 2 step, UK 4/4 and Speed Garage to Minneapolis and beyond. She always brings you Garage the way it should be; soulful, full of bass and always changing. > > 11-11:40ish:Poor Line Condition: Live DNB/Experimental Band? > You may have seen these guys around town recently, they've been about a lot lately. These guys are in demand and defineately going places, come check out why. > > 11:40-12: Fuckstorm Live Electro/Techno/Experimental WITH 2 GAMEBOYS! If you haven't seen this guy do his thing, you need to check him out!!! I couldn't fucking believe my eyes when i saw what he was doing, and do i need to say this again? ON TWO GAMEBOYS!!! move over mario... > > 12-1: DJ Tool: Emarald City Deep Crew. > One of the boys that knows how to bring good house to minneapolis, this night won't be an exception. are you ready for the deep end? > > 1-2: Mike G: intellephunk > Techno-pimp in the house! Mike is gonna be taking out all the goodies for this set: decks/efx/(a hopefully fixed)909, and a brand new toy. Come check out what Mike has up his sleeve now... > > 2-3: Paul Birken aka: the Tonewrecker. Live Techno Madness! There's a reason he's on more record labels than i can count. If you've been lucky enough to see one of his rare in-town performances you'll know what to expect, the unexpected! it's always a pleasure to hear paul play live! > > 3-4: isaac anthony :Teknophile > He'll be bangin' the funky tekno. isaac has been In the studio every day workin' on music, maybe he'll have a track or two of his own stuff to show off. Be afraid, be very afraid! > > 4-5: JP: Vital Vinyl > With the minimal madness. > This guys been super-hot lately! JP is reprezenting the minimal nation like no other, check him once again bringing the bleeps and clicks to the place! > > 5-6: G Christian: Emerald City Deep Crew > Deep, Funky, Chunky. G will be closing out the night for us with some of his Deep San-Fran flavored housemusic. > > > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > --------- End Forwarded Message --------- __________________________________________________________ Outgrown your current e-mail service? 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